Sunday Ticket Trial

[gupps]

It's the slow time and thought I'd post this. NFL lost the trial but they will appeal. I'm going to put off ordering til tghe end of July probably just to see if anything changes. I've had it since ~2008 so I'm all in if the verdict stands.

 

 

[sparky151]

With the triple damages, even after the lawyers cut, the NFL will lose every penny it ever made from DTV. That's assuming the verdict isn't overturned or a settlement for a smaller amount isn't agreed to. But if the NFL fights it out and loses, you might be in line for a full refund of everything you paid over the years. But that will be years away if ever. 

 

 

[Le Tigre]

Interesting:

 

How would the NFL pay damages?

It would be spread equally among the 32 teams. That means each one could be paying as much as $449.6 million.

 

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2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

With the triple damages, even after the lawyers cut,

Since this was a federal court action, the plaintiff attorneys would have a right for their fees independent of the plaintiff damage award. These will be staggering in their own right, besides the judgement 

[gupps]

If the NFL loses they will probably jack up the price for Sunday Ticket.

 

Seriously, just let me buy per game or by team.

[Jamie_B]

2 hours ago, gupps said:

If the NFL loses they will probably jack up the price for Sunday Ticket.

 

Seriously, just let me buy per game or by team.

 

Just wait till you have to get every single streaming service to watch all the games.

 

Can wait till I watch the Bengals on Fubo TV 

[texbengal]

I've had Sunday Ticket since 1999.

So once the lawyers finish with everything, I'm gonna clear around $6.50. Whew! Can't wait. 

[sparky151]

2 hours ago, texbengal said:

I've had Sunday Ticket since 1999.

So once the lawyers finish with everything, I'm gonna clear around $6.50. Whew! Can't wait. 

 

Disbursement of funds is probably at least 3 years away, assuming the verdict holds up. But you should be in line for thousands of dollars. 

[|BlackJesus|]

Florio predicted that some people could get as much as $5,000 ... that is if it ever survives all of its appeals. 

[Le Tigre]

7 hours ago, texbengal said:

I've had Sunday Ticket since 1999.

So once the lawyers finish with everything, I'm gonna clear around $6.50. Whew! Can't wait. 

Like I said above, the lawyers have a separate fee claim from the judgement. As Sparky says, the claimants will have full access to the  award. 
 

But remember: you have to make yourself known to the court as part of the class action. Many courts require notification to prospective claimants of their rights of recovery; however never rely on that totally—and never join from those mail (and now TV) advertisements sent out. Those are all from law offices, and they absolutely will take their cuts from your award. 

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

Like I said above, the lawyers have a separate fee claim from the judgement. As Sparky says, the claimants will have full access to the  award. 
 

But remember: you have to make yourself known to the court as part of the class action. Many courts require notification to prospective claimants of their rights of recovery; however never rely on that totally—and never join from those mail (and now TV) advertisements sent out. Those are all from law offices, and they absolutely will take their cuts from your award. 

Well said and true..

Do you see any one law firm involved 

not  on a hot expediting mission to do do?

Then what transpires,?

Don'tcha live the appeal process

 

[Le Tigre]

7 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Don'tcha live the appeal process

Forgot about that pathway! 
 

Also, a negotiated settlement to be considered. 

[T-Dub]

13 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

Florio predicted that some people could get as much as $5,000 ... that is if it ever survives all of its appeals. 

 

Flagship American sports media brand worth billions, in our court system? Not fuckin likely. The subscribers might owe extra by the time it's resolved.

[Jamie_B]

NFL got the case thrown out.

 

NFL Gets $4.7 Billion Sunday Ticket Jury Award Tossed Out (3) (bloomberglaw.com)

[gupps]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

NFL got the case thrown out.

 

NFL Gets $4.7 Billion Sunday Ticket Jury Award Tossed Out (3) (bloomberglaw.com)

 

It's $450 now, dunno if I'm going to pay that much with no hope of relief.

[sparky151]

2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

NFL got the case thrown out.

 

NFL Gets $4.7 Billion Sunday Ticket Jury Award Tossed Out (3) (bloomberglaw.com)

 

Not quite. The jury's finding that the NFL violated anti-trust laws remains. What was tossed was the damages. The plaintiffs will appeal to get the damages reinstated. If you remember, the entire case was dismissed at the district level several years ago, then the court of appeals resurrected it. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with the damages award too. 

[-GoBengals-]

1 hour ago, gupps said:

 

It's $450 now, dunno if I'm going to pay that much with no hope of relief.

 

i think its still $109 for student. do you have any relatives with a student email address? gotta be someone semi close to you cause when you login it sends a verification code to their email, probably just once, but might be done each week. fyi.

 

33 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

 

Not quite. The jury's finding that the NFL violated anti-trust laws remains. What was tossed was the damages. The plaintiffs will appeal to get the damages reinstated. If you remember, the entire case was dismissed at the district level several years ago, then the court of appeals resurrected it. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with the damages award too. 

 

yea i just assume they keep the game up until they settle on like 10% of the damages mentioned. maybe 1 billion in damages.

[Le Tigre]

37 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

 

Not quite. The jury's finding that the NFL violated anti-trust laws remains. What was tossed was the damages. The plaintiffs will appeal to get the damages reinstated. If you remember, the entire case was dismissed at the district level several years ago, then the court of appeals resurrected it. I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same with the damages award too. 

I read the decision also. Interesting the entire vacating of the damages portion was based on “inaccurate testimony” by Plaintiff expert witnesses. He goes into great depth of questioning the “real world analysis” of the experts—as though there would actually be a real world example of expert testimony (and includes parts of the Dauber decision…a good baseline, but hardly the end all). 
 

You are correct that he did not vacate the verdict itself—although he vaguely inserts “judgement” in his overruling of the jury verdict. Plenty of appealable error probable. 

[sparky151]

Yeah, the judge's opinion isn't very convincing. The plaintiff's 2 experts were testifying to what an alternate reality where the NFL didn't violate the law might look like. Of course that's speculative. If the judge admitted their testimony at trial, he can't really complain if the jury believed it.

 

 

[Le Tigre]

1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

If the judge admitted their testimony at trial, he can't really complain if the jury believed it.

That was also my impression. I wasn’t able to determine if appropriate motions in limine were filed pre-trial (or objections, etc made to the witnesses). The fact that he allowed testimony to be entered into the record…and made no specific jury instructions to accept/reject the expert testimony in-part or completely…was on him, not the jury.