New Jersey Bengal Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, PatternMaster said: If the Bengals loose Chase because of their bullshit penny pinching negotiating tactics they will lose a lot of fans...including me. They never negotiate with 2 years left on deals but they better change their ways and do it fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Just now, New Jersey Bengal said: They never negotiate with 2 years left on deals but they better change their ways and do it fast They know they have to sign him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 I don't see the Bengals guaranteeing 3/4's of Chase's contract & I don't think they should either. There are already a couple of teams that have hurt themselves with guaranteed money to guys that aren't even on the team. Denver will pay Russell Wilson $39M to go play for the Stealers this season. Chase is a safer bet than a midtier 35 year old QB but it still seems like a bad idea to guarantee that much money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 51 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Moore could irreparably blow out his knee in game one this year & then what? I don't think they should walk away with nothing in that scenario, but 80 mil? The new price of Hall of Fame talent (which Ja'Marr is, Moore isn't) is huge guarantees. It's just the nature of the beast at this point and the price of fielding a contending team. The opposite is not having any star players and no big guarantees to worry about, but then never making the playoffs and being everyone's 'Homecoming Game' on the schedule (see the 'dark decade' of the 1990s in Cincy). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 1 minute ago, BlackJesus said: The new price of Hall of Fame talent (which Ja'Marr is, Moore isn't) is huge guarantees. It's just the nature of the beast at this point and the price of fielding a contending team. The opposite is not having any star players and no big guarantees to worry about, but then never making the playoffs and being everyone's 'Homecoming Game' on the schedule (see the 'dark decade' of the 1990s in Cincy). Pay the man....now Damn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 The Bengals need to WAKE THE FUCK UP that Ja'Marr is not playing a single down until he's paid. I am baffled why they are just walking around like this isn't the daily reality, staring everyone in the face. They need to spare us with the daily reports that Ja'Marr is not in pads again, or sitting the practice out. News flash! ... He will be sitting all of them out until you give him an extension! Do not expect Ja'Marr to play in any practice, pre-season game, or regular season game for the foreseeable future. If they want his services this season, they will need to extend him. And unlike Tee, the fans will take Ja'Marr's side in this stand off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 To hopefully avoid this issue in the future, the Bengals will be trading away their first round draft pick for another team’s 2nd, 3rd, and 4th….and then trade each 2nd round picks for a 3rd and a 4th. 0 1st round picks 0 2nd round picks 4 3rd round picks 4 4th round picks …potentially turning those two picks that they can’t/won’t resign or extend into eight more-affordable options. 🥷 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 They haven't drafted all these WRs to guarantee one $100M. He can go be the only good player on a desperate team, see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 We all know what’s going to happen. He will sign a huge contract right before the season begins and then promptly get injured because he didn’t practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 47 minutes ago, T-Dub said: They haven't drafted all these WRs to guarantee one $100M. He can go be the only good player on a desperate team If you are advocating getting rid of Ja'Marr, probably the 3rd best player to ever put on a Bengals uniform after Munoz and Burrow, then you're crazy. You do not let someone of his talent level leave your team in their prime. It would be malpractice. Even if a team gave 3 first Rd picks in a trade it's not enough. This team is designed to ride Burrow and Ja'Marr to championships. If you break up that duo, then they don't deserve a Lombardi (and likely won't sniff one). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: If you are advocating getting rid of Ja'Marr, probably the 3rd best player to ever put on a Bengals uniform after Munoz and Burrow, then you're crazy. You do not let someone of his talent level leave your team in their prime. It would be malpractice. Even if a team gave 3 first Rd picks in a trade it's not enough. This team is designed to ride Burrow and Ja'Marr to championships. If you break up that duo, then they don't deserve a Lombardi (and likely won't sniff one). This team is Joe Burrow and rhen everyone else. If he's upright they have a shot at a championship. If he's hurt they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Just now, T-Dub said: This team is Joe Burrow and rhen everyone else. Montana needed a Rice. Mahomes needs a Kelce. Dynasties are usually a dynamic duo who combines their greatness. I think Burrow is the best QB in the NFL, but he can't throw TDs to himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 7 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Montana needed a Rice. Mahomes needs a Kelce. Dynasties are usually a dynamic duo who combines their greatness. I think Burrow is the best QB in the NFL, but he can't throw TDs to himself. They know they need to sign chase hopefully they will soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Montana needed a Rice. Mahomes needs a Kelce. Dynasties are usually a dynamic duo who combines their greatness. I think Burrow is the best QB in the NFL, but he can't throw TDs to himself. Is Chase the best WR in the NFL? He's in the conversation but he's not irreplaceable. The issue for me is more that they were poormouthing over Higgins because they needed to pay Chase. Now that it's time to do so they balk. Keep saying it but they're going to have to spend all that free cap money somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 What Ja'Marr will be doing until he's extended ... Pay the man! 💰 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said: If you are advocating getting rid of Ja'Marr, probably the 3rd best player to ever put on a Bengals uniform after Munoz and Burrow, then you're crazy. You do not let someone of his talent level leave your team in their prime. It would be malpractice. Even if a team gave 3 first Rd picks in a trade it's not enough. This team is designed to ride Burrow and Ja'Marr to championships. If you break up that duo, then they don't deserve a Lombardi (and likely won't sniff one). Duke Tobin made it clear in the interview last week that they have been having "conversations" with Chase's agent. I took that word as just another term for ongoing contract talks. This is in direct contrast to what has obviously been going on with Higgins, where they clearly haven't spoken with his agent in many months. I feel like they may get a deal done with Chase by the end of August. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 53 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: What Ja'Marr will be doing until he's extended ... Pay the man! 💰 being a distraction? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 He has “to feed his family” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Here is Ari Meirov claiming that the Bengals and Chase's are in talks on a new deal. I assume that Meirov, like a lot of sports reporters, is getting his info from the agent. He feels like the deal will probably get done before the start of the regular season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 I’d be happy as hell - but also shocked. Would break a lot of precedent in terms of 3rd year first round receivers getting that deal done and the guaranteed money it would take. I imagine Jamarr would have to take a lot of concessions this year to get it done in terms of guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Le Tigre said: He has “to feed his family” Paid $30M+ guaranteed on signing and earns another $5M this year. He's refusing to do jumping jacks because... Why? Was he clamped to a car battery and forced to sign the contract he's playing under or what is the complaint exactly. Did Pumpkin forge his signature? Same goes for Hendrickson. Refusing to honor a current contract would not inspire me to offer a new one more to their liking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 18 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Refusing to honor a current contract would not inspire me to offer a new one more to their liking. Ja'Marr has no choice but to honor the already signed contract and play under those terms for the next 2 years. But what he wants is an extension added on to that, with the large signing bonus that comes with it, giving him life-changing financial security against injury. Because he's a Hall of Fame talent he can make this demand. And if the Bengals are smart and want to win the Super Bowl this season, they will give in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 16 hours ago, PatternMaster said: If the Bengals loose Chase because of their bullshit penny pinching negotiating tactics they will lose a lot of fans...including me. They better tighten up if they loose him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said: They better tighten up if they loose him. They'll just fire up the bulllshit grinder and tell us the new journeyman scrub is the best thing since... you name it. I am growing impatient. Pay Ja'Marr. He's worth it and more. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 43 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: But what he wants is an extension added on to that, with the large signing bonus that comes with it, giving him life-changing financial security against injury. In all honesty…should any of we scruffy mortals actually care what his “life-changing financial security against injury” is? It isn’t yours or my “financial security”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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