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28 minutes ago, Griever said:

I used to frequent that board a long time ago as a guest user. I always used to love their banner with the deranged looking tiger logo lol (and it is still up and running today!)

 

 

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There was one guy who got into it with Andy Furman. Furman  defended Mike Brown for not leaving Cincy and he dared him to come on his show to debate. Chris-MBhater I think was his screen name. I haven’t been there in at least 10 years.  
 

The homepage hasn’t changed in 20 years to include Mike Brown’s overall record as GM. 

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15 minutes ago, Griever said:

Sorry if already posted, first time I'm seeing this

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bengals-jamarr-chase-wants-record-setting-contract-that-tops-justin-jefferson-deal-by-one-penny-per-report/

 

Bengals' Ja'Marr Chase wants record-setting contract that tops Justin Jefferson deal by one penny, per report

 

Although it's a hefty price to pay, it would make some sense for the Bengals to get a deal done now. Chase still has two years left on his rookie deal, unlike Jefferson, who only had one season left when he signed his extension. 

 

For the Bengals, the advantage of doing a deal now is that they would be able to spread out Chase's cap hits over six seasons. Chase is set to make just $1.055 million in base salary this year followed by a fifth-year option in 2025 that would pay him $21.82 million. If the Bengals matched Jefferson's deal (or gave him one cent more), they'd have Chase under contract for the next six years for a total of $162.88 million or $27.15 million per year, which sounds much more team friendly than $40 million per year. 

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^ I find that report very encouraging. As I suspected, he just wants one penny more than Jefferson (I assumed 1 dollar). 

 

And that is a great deal for the Bengals actually as it locks him up here for 6 seasons. 

 

I am not sure why this deal isn't signed and agreed to right now. It is not unreasonable at all and puts him at an average of 27 mill a year over 6 years = a bargain actually. 

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9 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

^ I find that report very encouraging. As I suspected, he just wants one penny more than Jefferson (I assumed 1 dollar). 

 

And that is a great deal for the Bengals actually as it locks him up here for 6 seasons. 

 

I am not sure why this deal isn't signed and agreed to right now. It is not unreasonable at all and puts him at an average of 27 mill a year over 6 years = a bargain actually. 

Yeah if this is truly what Ja'Marr is requesting, I have no idea how it isn't done yet. If it turns out to be the guaranteed amount, than I have no idea what is going to happen. I understand Joe Burrow was the guaranteed "exception" for the Bengals, and they don't want the proverbial guarantee-flood gates to open up for everyone...but this is Chase, possibly the best WR has ever had. Just do it...

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2 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

I'll kick in the penny.

You are a Saint. 
 

So the issue is the Bengals have to put his guaranteed money into an escrow account.   For a non independently wealthy Bengal ownership group, that is a lot of money considering they have a large amount already set aside for Joey B. 
 

The goal is to push this off to next year. Why you ask?  The NFL just approved that Private Equity firms can own up to 10%  of an NFL team.  The Bengals could raise 400 to 500 million doing that (not sure what the Bengals value is but Dallas is $10 bil). 

It would make these issues go away. 

 

 

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Bengals franchise was valued at 4.1 billion, the lowest in the league. Bengals are also the only team to vote against approving PE investment so they aren't going to sell a stake to an outside company.

 

Chase would be asking for 35 mil per year with over 100 mil guaranteed at signing. That's not a price the team should run toward. He wants to get paid a year earlier than Jefferson or Lamb, ie play a year less at a cheap price. He's also been less productive than them thus far in his career. He should be offering the team a discount to Jefferson's numbers, not asking for more. 

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15 minutes ago, SF2 said:

You are a Saint. 
 

So the issue is the Bengals have to put his guaranteed money into an escrow account.   For a non independently wealthy Bengal ownership group, that is a lot of money considering they have a large amount already set aside for Joey B. 
 

The goal is to push this off to next year. Why you ask?  The NFL just approved that Private Equity firms can own up to 10%  of an NFL team.  The Bengals could raise 400 to 500 million doing that (not sure what the Bengals value is but Dallas is $10 bil). 

It would make these issues go away. 

 

 

 

This really isn't enforced as it's been reported the Browns never did this for Watson's 100% guarantee contract, which would be the easiest one to check on.  There's ways around it apparently.

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1 hour ago, Griever said:

Sorry if already posted, first time I'm seeing this

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bengals-jamarr-chase-wants-record-setting-contract-that-tops-justin-jefferson-deal-by-one-penny-per-report/

 

Bengals' Ja'Marr Chase wants record-setting contract that tops Justin Jefferson deal by one penny, per report

 

How much is one petty in dollars?

 

Oh sorry I read that wrong.. or did I? :ninja:

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:

 

This really isn't enforced as it's been reported the Browns never did this for Watson's 100% guarantee contract, which would be the easiest one to check on.  There's ways around it apparently.

 

Article pertaining to this piece:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfls-funding-rule-isnt-mandatory-did-the-browns-make-escrow-payment-for-deshaun-watson-deal

 

Sounds like it's not exactly clear and as mentioned in the article, might just be a ploy to help owners deny giving guaranteed money.

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3 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Bengals franchise was valued at 4.1 billion, the lowest in the league. Bengals are also the only team to vote against approving PE investment so they aren't going to sell a stake to an outside company.

 

Chase would be asking for 35 mil per year with over 100 mil guaranteed at signing. That's not a price the team should run toward. He wants to get paid a year earlier than Jefferson or Lamb, ie play a year less at a cheap price. He's also been less productive than them thus far in his career. He should be offering the team a discount to Jefferson's numbers, not asking for more. 


Nailed it. If he wanted to get it done this year - there needed to be some concessions on his end.

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11 minutes ago, JC said:


Nailed it. If he wanted to get it done this year - there needed to be some concessions on his end.

 

Not even about his value to the team, he just wants to be able to say he's the "highest paid WR" for the time being.  They should offer him 37 cents less and make sure everyone knows it.  Goofy.

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If he's not going to practice, then why is he even bothering to show up?  

 

Compared to the deals for other Wide Receivers, he's asking to be paid a year earlier AND for more money than any other WR.  And who knows how much guaranteed cash he is asking?

 

I don't think the Bengals are being unreasonable is saying no to his contract demands. 

 

If he isn't practicing next week, they need to tell him to go home until he's ready to play.

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4 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Bengals franchise was valued at 4.1 billion, the lowest in the league. Bengals are also the only team to vote against approving PE investment so they aren't going to sell a stake to an outside company.

 

Chase would be asking for 35 mil per year with over 100 mil guaranteed at signing. That's not a price the team should run toward. He wants to get paid a year earlier than Jefferson or Lamb, ie play a year less at a cheap price. He's also been less productive than them thus far in his career. He should be offering the team a discount to Jefferson's numbers, not asking for more. 

 

Chase's 1st contract was also $14 million more than Lamb's and and $17 million more than Jefferson's.  

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8 minutes ago, Arkansas Bengal said:

If he's not going to practice, then why is he even bothering to show up?  

 

 

 

 

They could fine him if he was absent.  So long as he's present he's technically not in breach of contract plus he gets to be a daily reminder that he's disgruntled.

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Since it's been reported that Ja'Marr wants 1 penny more than Jefferson's deal, but he's a year early ... He could sweeten the pot for the Bengals by doing a 5 year deal instead of a 4 year one but keeping Jefferson's average (locking him up for the next 7 years). Which at his age (24) still makes sense. 

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