Bengals' Ja'Marr Chase hold-in is one to monitor according to Adam Schefter

[|High School Harry|]

21 minutes ago, texbengal said:

hey, they could always franchise him next year…  you know, like they did with Nugent (ducks head). 

And Shayne Graham 

[Sea Ray]

14 hours ago, texbengal said:

hey, they could always franchise him next year…  you know, like they did with Nugent (ducks head). 

That's exactly what they're planning to do 'cause the franchise tag for a kicker is nothing. They have a history of doing this and they won't need the franchise tag for anyone next week

[Arkansas Bengal]

Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer Gives Prediction For Ja'Marr Chase Extension Saga

Cincinnati hasn't had its second-best player practicing all training camp.

Russ Heltman | 2 Hours Ago

 

 

Bengals Ja'Marr Chase hangs out with coaches and players during their training camp on Tuesday July 30, 2024. / Phil Didion/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK

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CINCINNATI — Ja'Marr Chase hasn't practiced with the Bengals fully in months, but Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer doesn't think fans should worry about his training camp hold-in.

 

Breer discussed the situation in his latest mailbag.

 

"I want to say yes, based on how things played out with Joe Burrow last year—where the quarterback’s negotiation went all the way into Week 1, with the deal closing three days before the Cincinnati Bengals’ opener," Breer wrote about a deal getting done. "It’s why I don’t think there’s any huge reason to panic (in addition to the fact that Chase is under contract for another two years). That said, my sense is Chase’s side hasn’t been in some massive rush to get a deal done, and I’d think there are two reasons for that, which play into one another. First, Justin Jefferson’s deal, done at $35 million per year, is so far above where the market had been previously that it’s complicated the other remaining high-end receiver negotiations. Second, waiting for CeeDee Lamb and Brandon Aiyuk could bring more clarity.

 

"Either way, obviously, Chase and Jefferson were in communication through Jefferson’s negotiation, and Chase, rightfully, believes he should be in the financial neighborhood his former college teammate is. Of course, there are differences, one key one being that Jefferson only had a year left on his rookie deal when he got extended. But it’s fair to say that the commitment from Cincinnati is going to have to be a very heavy one for Chase to take a deal now."

 

Chase can't create much more leverage once Cincinnati's training camp ends. His contract cannot stack another year of service time unless he plays this season, although he could sit out some games if he really wants to.

one of this helps him get better or the Bengals achieve a Super Bowl title this year. If Chase isn't going to practice without an extension, it's obviously best for both sides to get something done.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/sports-illustrated-s-albert-breer-gives-prediction-for-ja-marr-chase-extension-saga-01j5dbmbba7b

[KA14_HOF]

On the bright side, every day that Ja'Marr doesn't practice, the better the chances of him not getting injured.

 

So while he may not be ready to play, at least he'll still be able to play. (lookin' for the silver lining here)

[Jamie_B]

On 8/14/2024 at 5:47 PM, dex said:

For those waiting for a Chase extension to be announced, keep in mind that the front office is still having trouble getting McPherson - another extension priority - to sign an extension contract.

 

The PLACE KICKER. 

 

No NFL team ever struggles to sign a PK to a extension...until now.

 

Now imagine the difficulty in reaching a contract extension with a young elite player who happens to play WIDE RECEIVER in today's NFL marketplace.

 

Have they even approached McPherson? 

 

For those who say wait on chase till next year. This is an example where I completely disagree.

 

Butker just signed the largest contract for a ticket in history.

 

Had we gotten Evan done earlier than Butker he would be cheaper, Butker's contract is going to make Evan more expensive, even if Evan doesn't beat his contract.

 

It doesn't just raise the ceiling it raises the floor.

[Griever]

11 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Have they even approached McPherson? 

 

For those who say wait on chase till next year. This is an example where I completely disagree.

 

Butker just signed the largest contract for a ticket in history.

 

Had we gotten Evan done earlier than Butker he would be cheaper, Butker's contract is going to make Evan more expensive, even if Evan doesn't beat his contract.

 

It doesn't just raise the ceiling it raises the floor.

😏

[Jamie_B]

21 minutes ago, Griever said:

😏

 

Did I miss it?

[Jamie_B]

Just saw the other thread. Great news

[|High School Harry|]

8 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

Just saw the other thread. Great news

[|BlackJesus|]

Ok, now it's Ja'Marr's turn ...

 

[I_C_Deadpeople]

2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Have they even approached McPherson? 

 

For those who say wait on chase till next year. This is an example where I completely disagree.

 

Butker just signed the largest contract for a ticket in history.

 

Had we gotten Evan done earlier than Butker he would be cheaper, Butker's contract is going to make Evan more expensive, even if Evan doesn't beat his contract.

 

It doesn't just raise the ceiling it raises the floor.

That post did not age well LOL

[Griever]

 

[-GoBengals-]

hm.

 

not sure what to think, typically i think, well theyll lose like 1 million a week sitting out so sitting out even 2 weeks hurts more than whatever they are arguing over...

 

but his base salary is 1 million, so he is getting like 60k a week. so its really no loss, everything else was signing bonus and roster bonus. 

 

so he has nothing to lose, also nothing new to gain. but nothing to lose.

[claptonrocks]

11 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

hm.

 

not sure what to think, typically i think, well theyll lose like 1 million a week sitting out so sitting out even 2 weeks hurts more than whatever they are arguing over...

 

but his base salary is 1 million, so he is getting like 60k a week. so its really no loss, everything else was signing bonus and roster bonus. 

 

so he has nothing to lose, also nothing new to gain. but nothing to lose.

A possible SB run or title?

[-GoBengals-]

2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

A possible SB run or title?

 

not sure how much he cares? obviously he cares but how much?

 

bengals have plenty to lose i guess, but with jamarr telling joe we dont need him for the first 6 weeks, does he feel the same for himself? if he sits 6 weeks, and we are 5-1, does it hurt his case at all?

 

lots of angles

[claptonrocks]

4 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

 

not sure how much he cares? obviously he cares but how much?

 

bengals have plenty to lose i guess, but with jamarr telling joe we dont need him for the first 6 weeks, does he feel the same for himself? if he sits 6 weeks, and we are 5-1, does it hurt his case at all?

 

lots of angles

Yep...

I believe he'll sign before the season.

If he sits and they go 5-1 he'll

Still get his money.

I believe Katy has worked diligently

to make it happen..

 

I want him on the field game one.

No excuses 

[|BlackJesus|]

^ There's also the possibility I guess that the Bengals start out 1-5 without him and his price increases with every loss. 

 

The entire situation is avoidable however. Just give him $1 more than Jefferson and call it a day. He was drafted alongside Joe to transform the franchise and they did. Now it's time to pay the piper. 

[sparky151]

Chase doesn't deserve as much as Jefferson though. He hasn't been as good a player thus far in his career and he's currently under contract for 2 more years. And wouldn't see free agency for 2 more tag years after that. So his leverage is limited. If he gets a 4 year extension at 28-30 mil per year, he should leap at that. 

[claptonrocks]

2 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

Chase doesn't deserve as much as Jefferson though. He hasn't been as good a player thus far in his career and he's currently under contract for 2 more years. And wouldn't see free agency for 2 more tag years after that. So his leverage is limited. If he gets a 4 year extension at 28-30 mil per year, he should leap at that. 

Im guessing his agent started at 

5yr  35 per  175...

 

Id guess they settle around 

5 yr 150..(more guaranteed)

as you say.

 

Be surprised if it more than that per.

 

[HereSince68]

Why draft him as a #1 top receiver if you're not going to pay him as a #1 top receiver, Mike & Duke?

[Griever]

 

[-GoBengals-]

7 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

^ There's also the possibility I guess that the Bengals start out 1-5 without him and his price increases with every loss. 

 

The entire situation is avoidable however. Just give him $1 more than Jefferson and call it a day. He was drafted alongside Joe to transform the franchise and they did. Now it's time to pay the piper. 

 

there is literally no scenario where his price increases, he wants to be paid the most ever. there is no increase from that.

 

5 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Chase doesn't deserve as much as Jefferson though. He hasn't been as good a player thus far in his career and he's currently under contract for 2 more years. And wouldn't see free agency for 2 more tag years after that. So his leverage is limited. If he gets a 4 year extension at 28-30 mil per year, he should leap at that. 

 

yea the lack of leverage in contract years is NOT on his side for sure. great point.

 

5 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Im guessing his agent started at 

5yr  35 per  175...

 

Id guess they settle around 

5 yr 150..(more guaranteed)

as you say.

 

Be surprised if it more than that per.

 

 

very possible, i figure 1mil over what JJ got is what they want. and may take the same or 100k more or whatever joe basically did.

 

4 hours ago, HereSince68 said:

Why draft him as a #1 top receiver if you're not going to pay him as a #1 top receiver, Mike & Duke?

 

no one said they wouldnt, just a matter of when. they have him for 2 years under contract right now. 

 

3 hours ago, Griever said:

 

 

shefter is nothing but a pawn for whichever side is giving him the fun scout to report. he is the CNN/Fox news of sports reporting. although i guess he uses true information most times.. just essentially like a bribe from whoever feeds him the gossip/inside details.

[T-Dub]

26 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

 

there is literally no scenario where his price increases, he wants to be paid the most ever. there is no increase from that.

 

 

 

There is when some other big name WR signs a fresh contract next offseason.   Like, does he want to be the highest paid.. forever? Or would he honor this potential new contract more than the one he's mad about now?

[|High School Harry|]

With all due respect to all who have responded...

I can't wait for the day when this thread drops off the screen and into The Pink Opaque.

[sparky151]

14 hours ago, HereSince68 said:

Why draft him as a #1 top receiver if you're not going to pay him as a #1 top receiver, Mike & Duke?

 

They may be taking a holistic view rather than limiting themselves to comparisons to other WRs. If you look at say Brandon Aiyuk who is holding in with the 49ers, he's scheduled to make 14.9 million this year on his rookie deal 5th year option. He wants about double that. Meanwhile George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey are better players and more important to the team's success. Kittle makes about what Aiyuk is refusing to play for and McCaffrey, who just got a new contract this offseason as the NFL offensive player of the year, makes about 2/3 of what Aiyuk is asking for.

 

Jefferson got a contract that makes him the highest-paid non-QB. And other WRs want to use that as a comparison even when they aren't as good. Chase included.

 

Good WRs simply aren't that hard to find, colleges turn out a number each year. Chase is a better player than Amon-Ra St Brown or AJ Brown but the Bengals may not want to pay him like those guys got paid.