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|BlackJesus| Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 ^ 😡 Great. Leave it to this front office to create bad blood with the 2nd best player on the team, who should be a hall of fame cornerstone of the franchise for the next decade. Pathetic and idiotic on their part. Unless Scrooge McCheap gets with the new reality of today's NFL contracts (larger non-deferred guarantees), this team is going to devolve into just Burrow and rotating mid Rd draft picks waiting to leave for a real second contract. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 28 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: ^ 😡 Great. Leave it to this front office to create bad blood with the 2nd best player on the team, who should be a hall of fame cornerstone of the franchise for the next decade. Pathetic and idiotic on their part. Unless Scrooge McCheap gets with the new reality of today's NFL contracts (larger non-deferred guarantees), this team is going to devolve into just Burrow and rotating mid Rd draft picks waiting to leave for a real second contract. Bengals offered 4 years 140M and 90 guaranteed. Bengals have been trying to negotiate since end of last season This is not on the Bengals. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 14 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Bengals offered 4 years 140M and 90 guaranteed. This is not on the Bengals. No, they offered 4 years, 140M, 30 guaranteed right now and 60 deferred until 2027 if he doesn't have any big injuries by then (which defeats the purpose of the guarantee, as it serves as a protection to the player against injury). There is no way they could actually expect Ja'Marr's agent to accept that deal and look like a total clown to other agents, as he would basically be giving away 60 to 80 million in guarantees (using Justin's 110 figure) and putting those dollars at risk, by shifting all the risk from the team to the player. The article says that Ja'Marr has had to take out his own 50 million dollar insurance policy this season, which is an indictment of this front office and proof that they dropped the ball on this one. Usually they do things right and I have applauded them many times over the years. But they shit their pants here and its embarrassing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 2 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: No, they offered 4 years, 140M, 30 guaranteed right now and 60 deferred until 2027 if he doesn't have any big injuries by then (which defeats the purpose of the guarantee, as it serves as a protection to the player against injury). There is no way they could actually expect Ja'Marr's agent to accept that deal and look like a total clown to other agents, as he would basically be giving away 60 to 80 million in guarantees (using Justin's 110 figure) and putting those dollars at risk, by shifting all the risk from the team to the player. The article says that Ja'Marr has had to take out his own 50 million dollar insurance policy this season, which is an indictment of this front office and proof that they dropped the ball on this one. Usually they do things right and I have applauded them many times over the years. But they shit their pants here and its embarrassing to the organization. So you think that they won't get a deal done in the off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 11 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: So you think that they won't get a deal done in the off season? Hard to say at this point. He also might not be so enthused about his future with them now either, if he feels like they've 'done him dirty'. What I do know is he will likely only get more expensive. So any guarantee he would have accepted now, will be even bigger (and presumably harder for them to swallow) in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 19 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: No, they offered 4 years, 140M, 30 guaranteed right now and 60 deferred until 2027 if he doesn't have any big injuries by then (which defeats the purpose of the guarantee, as it serves as a protection to the player against injury). There is no way they could actually expect Ja'Marr's agent to accept that deal and look like a total clown to other agents, as he would basically be giving away 60 to 80 million in guarantees (using Justin's 110 figure) and putting those dollars at risk, by shifting all the risk from the team to the player. The article says that Ja'Marr has had to take out his own 50 million dollar insurance policy this season, which is an indictment of this front office and proof that they dropped the ball on this one. Usually they do things right and I have applauded them many times over the years. But they shit their pants here and its embarrassing. They have him under contract for 2 years. He has to give up something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 8 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Hard to say at this point. He also might not be so enthused about his future with them now either, if he feels like they've 'done him dirty'. What I do know is he will likely only get more expensive. So any guarantee he would have accepted now, will be even bigger (and presumably harder for them to swallow) in the future. He will be here long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 Higgins 22 million also will come off the books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 4 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: He will be here long term. That was always the plan they never intended to sign Higgins long term as was reported last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 27 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: That was always the plan they never intended to sign Higgins long term as was reported last season Guy went door to door asking Joe Burrows neighbors to move. He isn't going anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 4 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: He will be here long term. Fact?????.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 To reinforce his word and strengthen his position, Chase also has taken out a $50 million insurance policy on himself for this season to safeguard against injury and any potential lost earnings. As one source said about Chase, with the insurance policy in place, “He’s good.” Translation: Chase is going to keep playing and get back to seeking that major contract extension after the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 Viking fans are now dreaming like we did with Jefferson ... 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 They could keep dreaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 11 hours ago, BlackJesus said: No, they offered 4 years, 140M, 30 guaranteed right now and 60 deferred until 2027 if he doesn't have any big injuries by then (which defeats the purpose of the guarantee, as it serves as a protection to the player against injury). There is no way they could actually expect Ja'Marr's agent to accept that deal and look like a total clown to other agents, as he would basically be giving away 60 to 80 million in guarantees (using Justin's 110 figure) and putting those dollars at risk, by shifting all the risk from the team to the player. The article says that Ja'Marr has had to take out his own 50 million dollar insurance policy this season, which is an indictment of this front office and proof that they dropped the ball on this one. Usually they do things right and I have applauded them many times over the years. But they shit their pants here and its embarrassing. I agree. The deferred guarantee concept won’t fly with players and agents - not just Chase but future deals. The team has done a lot of good things in the last few years but this is a step backwards and smells of Mike Brown thinking and not the 3 Blackburn gals. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 12 hours ago, BlackJesus said: ^ 😡 Great. Leave it to this front office to create bad blood with the 2nd best player on the team, who should be a hall of fame cornerstone of the franchise for the next decade. Pathetic and idiotic on their part. Unless Scrooge McCheap gets with the new reality of today's NFL contracts (larger non-deferred guarantees), this team is going to devolve into just Burrow and rotating mid Rd draft picks waiting to leave for a real second contract. This is what drove Palmer to leave. I've not been convinced that the front office has changed in this regard. I'm still on the once the team secures it QB for the long term they revert back to being tight with the cap. Until I see otherwise I'm not sure I believe the Bengals are serious about maximizing their window with top teir QBs and we might indeed be waiting for the next good qb on a rookie deal before we get back to the Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 10 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: Guy went door to door asking Joe Burrows neighbors to move. He isn't going anywhere. I'm not sure I believe that. Seems like fan rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 5 hours ago, Jamie_B said: I'm not sure I believe that. Seems like fan rumor. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-how-ja-marr-chase-joe-burrow-became-neighbors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 12 hours ago, Jamie_B said: I'm not sure I believe that. Seems like fan rumor. I wonder if he found trash on any of those lawns? 🦝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 22 hours ago, Jamie_B said: I'm not sure I believe that. Seems like fan rumor. 10 hours ago, T-Dub said: I wonder if he found trash on any of those lawns? 🦝 I thought he moved to Indian Hill and is listed as Ja'Marr Chase LLC to avoid his address showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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