Will Bengals fire Zac Taylor? Why coach is on hot seat after another slow start

[LostInDaJungle]

39 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

I have to question that 2/3 of America's--and even 1/2 of Cincinnati's--AverageFan, even know who the hell Eric Bienemy is. 

That's my point... We're not going to get someone 100% of Cincinnati knows. We're going to get someone who needs this job badly enough to put up with Mike and Katie. It's a bonus if they can use this to sell season tickets to people who believe that the restaurant at the Holiday Inn having an "Under New Management" sign means that they finally got rid of the cockroaches.

 

a.k.a The same process that got us Zac Taylor.

[T-Dub]

Say again, the Bengals do not own a "hot seat".   Taylor is signed through 2026 & will be here until then unless they find a body in his trunk or something of that nature.

[I_C_Deadpeople]

8 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

Say again, the Bengals do not own a "hot seat".   Taylor is signed through 2026 & will be here until then unless they find a body in his trunk or something of that nature.

True enough. As noted earlier, I think only Joe could create a hot seat for Taylor. 

[sparky151]

Ben Johnson would be an upgrade from Taylor. Bienemy probably wouldn't. 

 

The Brown family isn't going to pay up for a top coaching candidate. They'll most likely keep Taylor for another year and only hire a replacement if the replacement is getting paid well by another team not to coach. So Salah might be a possible candidate but would we want him?

 

 

[MichaelWeston]

6 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Potential head coach and DC candidates

Head Coaches

Bill Bellicheck

Mike Vrabel

Offensive Coordinators

Eric Bienemy

Ben Johnson

Bob Slowik

Kliff Kingsbury

Joe Brady

Todd Monken

Defensive Coordinators

Vance Joseph

Steve Spagnuoulo

Aaron Glenn

Brian Flores

DC options

Robert Saleh

Brandon Staley

Mike Vrabel

Jim Leonhard

Leslie Frazier

 

 

Others have already made excellent points but I will add

 

If they fired Taylor I think these guys would be in play: Vrabel, Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, Vance Joseph

These guys might be in play: Slowik-Glenn-Flores-Monken (Monken interviewed last time when they hired Taylor but he's already 58)

 

I do think that Joe will push changes this offseason and that will be a new OL coach/Run game coordinator and a new DC. 

[|BlackJesus|]

I would like to see the team give Joe Brady a shot at OC and reunite him with Burrow and Ja'Marr. 

[MichaelWeston]

28 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

I would like to see the team give Joe Brady a shot at OC and reunite him with Burrow and Ja'Marr. 

Hes already OC for the Bills

[Griever]

Just now, MichaelWeston said:

Hes already OC for the Bills

And seemingly doing a swell job. Does Allen even have a pick yet this year? Damn

[saphead]

The Brown family tends to get rid of players too early and keep coaches too long. 

[MichaelWeston]

The more I think about it the more I am ready to replace Zac. 

 

The offense is stale. No offense should need a top 5 QB and 2 top 15 WRs to succeed. They can't find anything else. Defense is what it is and needs a new general. 

 

Both sides of the ball we don't make things hard on other teams and our team needs to be near perfect to make our system work. Need a new vision, more creativity, more dictating things to the other side of the ball. Time to move on. 

[Griever]

 

[MichaelWeston]

47 minutes ago, Griever said:

Maybe but that's just a part of owning the team for 50 years. It's not all nepo babies. 

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

Maybe but that's just a part of owning the team for 50 years. It's not all nepo babies. 

 

IDK how you can call them anything but?

 

At least the coach's sons tend to go intern with a different team and work their way up through the ranks as position coaches.

[|SF2|]

On 10/28/2024 at 10:59 AM, Jamie_B said:

We all know this isn't going to happen

[MichaelWeston]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

IDK how you can call them anything but?

 

At least the coach's sons tend to go intern with a different team and work their way up through the ranks as position coaches.

 

Katie and Troy are the only people in those positions. Tobin and the scouting room aren't Browns

[|High School Harry|]

I don't think Zac will go nor do I think he should.  He is kind of the catalysts with the team chemistry.

Don't know how Joe and Ja'Marr would feel about or do starting from scratch with a new guy, scheme

and personality.

 

Lou Armadillo... gone.  Scapegoated, Sacrificed and not very good.  His own worse enemy in not being willing

to change nor adapt.  Game films of his D is like reruns for a poor sitcom.  You know what joke is coming next.

Run because they're not very good at stopping it; two runs and a tush push (Child, please) or throw into the

holes in the soft zones big enough to build a house in.  Bye, Lou.

P.S.  Charlie don't surf and Lou don't blitz.

 

Frank Pollock... gone.  Yeah, we and everyone else in the league get it that you have built an O line of passblockers

who cannot block for the run.  Why?  Yeah, D linemen can get into tall O Linemen's bodies but... not to the extent

that seems to happen with our O line.  Can't blame it all on Volson.

I also think it would be nice if we had some sort of blocking back in the backfield.  O line doing a decent job and a stunting

Blitzer roars in.

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

 

Katie and Troy are the only people in those positions. Tobin and the scouting room aren't Browns

 

 

Which positions, the FO?  They're definitely not the only 2 relatives.  Add in "family friends", (e.g., people they would invite to a wedding) and it gets even more clannish.

[T-Dub]

40 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

I don't think Zac will go nor do I think he should.  He is kind of the catalysts with the team chemistry.

Don't know how Joe and Ja'Marr would feel about or do starting from scratch with a new guy, scheme

and personality.

 

 

 

 

Yeh IDK, I still think he's a good head coach but I don't think he's a great playcaller.   We're talking about game plans going to shit because a dude who was off with the trainers doing PT all week suits up on game day. Guys who have spent half their career sidelined can't go and they don't have a plan? He doesn't have an answer for that, in pro football... 

 

Why does he need to call every play when Joe audibles out of half of them anyhow?

 

He's not going anywhere soon and maybe he shouldn't, but his legacy so far is losing the Bengals a 3rd Super Bowl. Whole team seems like they've been smelling their own farts since that loss & it's 100% on him to beat that out of them.  I'm not seeing him learn & adapt year to year like I'd hope as a first time HC that was elevated from a minor assistant position. 

 

The organization seems vague as to where the buck stops.  Who  is going to take someone behind the woodshed?

 

[|High School Harry|]

49 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Which positions, the FO?  They're definitely not the only 2 relatives.  Add in "family friends", (e.g., people they would invite to a wedding) and it gets even more clannish.

Don't forget the Pumpkinettes who know jack shit about football and are in charge of fan engagement

and other crap that detracts from the game itself.  Actually, I wonder how many fans at the stadium are there

for the game itself.  Every home game is Halloween and I simply cannot believe the number of people who bring

and pay $$ for seats for little kids, bring infants, who have zero idea what is going on.

 

Bring back the caged tiger (preferably white) and the dixie land band wearing straw skimmers in the end zone

playing "Hold That Tiger" with a tuba solo.

 

BTW... Tyler Eifert is the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday if he doesn't fall down and hurt himself first.

[T-Dub]

38 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

Don't forget the Pumpkinettes who know jack shit about football and are in charge of fan engagement

and other crap that detracts from the game itself.  Actually, I wonder how many fans at the stadium are there

for the game itself.  Every home game is Halloween and I simply cannot believe the number of people who bring

and pay $$ for seats for little kids, bring infants, who have zero idea what is going on.

 

Bring back the caged tiger (preferably white) and the dixie land band wearing straw skimmers in the end zone

playing "Hold That Tiger" with a tuba solo.

 

BTW... Tyler Eifert is the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday if he doesn't fall down and hurt himself first.

 

Eh, I'm all for the nepo hires being in charge of Bengals Official Xitter or deciding what unholy mutated gut-bomb to serve in the Club lounge.  So long as they aren't making football decisions I kinda DGAF until they start poor-mouthing about how they can't afford the dudes on their billboards.

 

They really should bring back that ragtime band though.

[Le Tigre]

2 hours ago, High School Harry said:

elf.  Every home game is Halloween and I simply cannot believe the number of people who bring

and pay $$ for seats for little kids, bring infants, who have zero idea what is going on.

At the Rat game, there was a husband/wife/2 kids (between 7-10). Had never seen them before, so they were likely a group who had never been to a game before. No gear..just spectators. They were nice/respectful/quiet. I no longer scream/curse/rage at games anymore (haven’t for a very long time)…so they probably appreciated having a seat neighbor that wasn’t spilling food or drink on them or filling their ears with expletives. 
 

When the music blared… the lights flashed..and the incessant “Get Loud” blasts..they smiled and seemed entertained. What was happening on the field didn’t seem to move their interest levels. Still, they were there at the start and stayed until after OT. They cleaned up and politely left. 
 

I found them fascinating. 

[|High School Harry|]

10 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

At the Rat game, there was a husband/wife/2 kids (between 7-10). Had never seen them before, so they were likely a group who had never been to a game before. No gear..just spectators. They were nice/respectful/quiet. I no longer scream/curse/rage at games anymore (haven’t for a very long time)…so they probably appreciated having a seat neighbor that wasn’t spilling food or drink on them or filling their ears with expletives. 
 

When the music blared… the lights flashed..and the incessant “Get Loud” blasts..they smiled and seemed entertained. What was happening on the field didn’t seem to move their interest levels. Still, they were there at the start and stayed until after OT. They cleaned up and politely left. 
 

I found them fascinating. 

I was once at a game where a guy had paid big bucks to bring four teenage girls to the game.

I was assuming his daughter and three friends.

The girls did not look up from their iPhones the whole time they were there.

 

There is now a very pleasant Indian family who have the 5-6 seats at the other end of our row.

Always bring the little kids.  The one poor guy spends more time taking the little boy to the bathroom

than he does watching the game.  Other child is a little girl and both are under 6.  I'm sure they have

no idea what is going on or why they are there.

 

I'm always fascinated people who bring infants in the little carrier things.

In colder weather the thing looks like a basket of blankets.

Adeniji's wife was one of them, sat near us.  Three little girls.

I sometimes wonder what she thinks now that he is working for

Two Men and a Truck.

[texbengal]

1 hour ago, High School Harry said:

I was once at a game where a guy had paid big bucks to bring four teenage girls to the game.

I was assuming his daughter and three friends.

The girls did not look up from their iPhones the whole time they were there.

 

There is now a very pleasant Indian family who have the 5-6 seats at the other end of our row.

Always bring the little kids.  The one poor guy spends more time taking the little boy to the bathroom

than he does watching the game.  Other child is a little girl and both are under 6.  I'm sure they have

no idea what is going on or why they are there.

 

I'm always fascinated people who bring infants in the little carrier things.

In colder weather the thing looks like a basket of blankets.

Adeniji's wife was one of them, sat near us.  Three little girls.

I sometimes wonder what she thinks now that he is working for

Two Men and a Truck.

Adeniji is on the Browns - practice squad. He was with Minnesota last year - mostly PS but he was on the 53 for several games. 

[PatternMaster]

9 hours ago, High School Harry said:

I was once at a game where a guy had paid big bucks to bring four teenage girls to the game.

I was assuming his daughter and three friends.

The girls did not look up from their iPhones the whole time they were there.

 

There is now a very pleasant Indian family who have the 5-6 seats at the other end of our row.

Always bring the little kids.  The one poor guy spends more time taking the little boy to the bathroom

than he does watching the game.  Other child is a little girl and both are under 6.  I'm sure they have

no idea what is going on or why they are there.

 

I'm always fascinated people who bring infants in the little carrier things.

In colder weather the thing looks like a basket of blankets.

Adeniji's wife was one of them, sat near us.  Three little girls.

I sometimes wonder what she thinks now that he is working for

Two Men and a Truck.

 

He plays for the Browns and has made almost $4 million in five years despite being a below-average NFL player. I think she thinks they're very fortunate and blessed. 

[Le Tigre]

12 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Adeniji's wife was one of them, sat near us.

In 104 where Amish and I are situated, a lot of players’ family members sit nearby in front. Easy to tell who they are…as they wear jerseys/gear with their player’s name on them. 
 

Most are not front-line player names. Sample’s family are very noticeable—mainly because there are so many of them. CTB’s parents and sister are two rows in front. There are others too.