Top candidates to replace Zac Taylor as Bengals head coach

[Jamie_B]

5 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

THE is going to have a home playoff game this season…and it’s likely to be a much lower quality participant. 
 

Should they advance to at least the semis, he’ll have one more loss to Michigan to spare before an axe would fall. 

 

You think so? 4 years in a row of losing to _ichigan has to piss off the alumni and boosters.

[Le Tigre]

4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

You think so? 4 years in a row of losing to _ichigan has to piss off the alumni and boosters.

To some extent, yes. But the program has morphed into such a force on the national stage, the money and prestige has exceeded the rivalry thing. Again, to an extent. 
 

He’s still getting the big recruits, and the program has motored along. Day is very Zac-like, in that play-calling has been severely questioned. But, if he wins on the big stage coming up—dare to dream championship—losing to Michigan will not be remembered 

[Randle P McMurphy]

Belicheck isn't going to come here.  Bengals won't pay enough or give him any control over personnel.  

I think Vrabel is going to be the next HC in Las Vegas.  The guys that haven't been HC's in the NFL before

are going to have the same hard time that Zac did as far as hiring OC's or DC's.  (Same shit, different names!)

I read somewhere that the reason Ben Johnson didn't take a job last year is because he was asking for a contract

in the $15 million a year range.  Jon Gruden might be desperate enough to get another shot at HC in the NFL. 

(Even with the Bengals!)  Given a shot at redemption and Ohio ties fits the Bengals front offices M.O.. 

I think I'd be okay with Gruden.

 

[I_C_Deadpeople]

3 minutes ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

Belicheck isn't going to come here.  Bengals won't pay enough or give him any control over personnel.  

I think Vrabel is going to be the next HC in Las Vegas.  The guys that haven't been HC's in the NFL before

are going to have the same hard time that Zac did as far as hiring OC's or DC's.  (Same shit, different names!)

I read somewhere that the reason Ben Johnson didn't take a job last year is because he was asking for a contract

in the $15 million a year range.  Jon Gruden might be desperate enough to get another shot at HC in the NFL. 

(Even with the Bengals!)  Given a shot at redemption and Ohio ties fits the Bengals front offices M.O.. 

I think I'd be okay with Gruden.

 

Gruden wants personnel control, that is why he hired Mayock at his last failed gig. The did some brutal drafting between the two of them. 

[Jamie_B]

5 minutes ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

Belicheck isn't going to come here.  Bengals won't pay enough or give him any control over personnel.  

I think Vrabel is going to be the next HC in Las Vegas.  The guys that haven't been HC's in the NFL before

are going to have the same hard time that Zac did as far as hiring OC's or DC's.  (Same shit, different names!)

I read somewhere that the reason Ben Johnson didn't take a job last year is because he was asking for a contract

in the $15 million a year range.  Jon Gruden might be desperate enough to get another shot at HC in the NFL. 

(Even with the Bengals!)  Given a shot at redemption and Ohio ties fits the Bengals front offices M.O.. 

I think I'd be okay with Gruden.

 

 

 

Gruden is a head case. Hard pass.

[-GoBengals-]

would anyone like to bet with me that taylor isnt fired?

 

im good for unlimited bets from $5-100 each that i think taylor stays.

 

lemme know. cashapp, venmo, paypal, etc..

[Randle P McMurphy]

9 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

would anyone like to bet with me that taylor isnt fired?

 

im good for unlimited bets from $5-100 each that i think taylor stays.

 

lemme know. cashapp, venmo, paypal, etc..

 

I don't think he get's fired either but a person can dream can't they!?  

[T-Dub]

10 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

would anyone like to bet with me that taylor isnt fired?

 

im good for unlimited bets from $5-100 each that i think taylor stays.

 

lemme know. cashapp, venmo, paypal, etc..

 

 

Hecky nah..  Anarumo seems the most likely candidate and I wouldn't bet money on that either.

[BBR]

I seriously can't imagine that they would fire Zac.  Not yet at least since he's already had more success than Marvin did in what - 14 years?  Position coaches and maybe Anarumo are replaced after the season ends but Zac will still be here.

[Randle P McMurphy]

16 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

Gruden wants personnel control, that is why he hired Mayock at his last failed gig. The did some brutal drafting between the two of them. 

 

You don't think he'd give that up for another shot at a HC position?  

 

17 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Gruden is a head case. Hard pass.

 

But a head case with a SB ring and had success with Rich Gannon at QB.  Rich Gannon couldn't carry Burrow's suitcase full

of backless shirts!  

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Griever said:

Guys guys, remember what Duke always says.

 

It isn't how many voices in the room there are, it's about having the right voices in the room.

 

*ROLLS EYES*

 

Meaning him.  His voice is the right one, in said room.  Also the people who sign his checks - good voices.  Theoretical other people with a proven ability to draft good players, no thanks. People that might say things like "hey this guy is the size of a jockey or Olympic gymnast so that 40 time doesn't mean shit" or "this DE looks the part but every scouting report says he plays soft with poor leverage" - not them at all. 

 

The right voices are the ones that agree with him.

[KA14_HOF]

There's always Marv Levy.

[Jamie_B]

1 minute ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

But a head case with a SB ring and had success with Rich Gannon at QB.  Rich Gannon couldn't carry Burrow's suitcase full

of backless shirts!  

 

He also has one with Brad Johnson, but he's still a headcase.

[-GoBengals-]

16 minutes ago, BBR said:

I seriously can't imagine that they would fire Zac.  Not yet at least since he's already had more success than Marvin did in what - 14 years?  Position coaches and maybe Anarumo are replaced after the season ends but Zac will still be here.

 

Lou is a tough sell as well, his defenses were so good with solid palyers on the field, that he was getting multiple HC interviews. If he were fired he would be the #1 DC candidate on the market immediately.

 

So id be surprised if he were gone either.

 

now DL and DB coaches should be feeling some heat, i dont know wnough about thier pedifree to even see any firings there.

 

Bengals dont fire coaches to appease fans, never have, never will, another benefit of a non-GM who is trusted and close with the family, is GM isnt here to fire people to save his job, which is a terrible practice and one of the worst things about the NFL.

 

but the rest of the league doing so creates the environment that it not only makes sense, and is OK, but that it SHOULD happen..

 

and you get fanbases and threads like this one...

 

its pretty wack.

[sparky151]

lol at the idea that Lou would be the top DC candidate after being fired.

 

Coaches and coordinators get fired because they don't produce good results. That's called "accountability". It's a foreign concept for the Brown family. 

[LostInDaJungle]

2 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

lol at the idea that Lou would be the top DC candidate after being fired.

 

Coaches and coordinators get fired because they don't produce good results. That's called "accountability". It's a foreign concept for the Brown family. 

Seriously... You think people are out there looking at this defense and thinking "Whoah, hope that guy's available!"

I'm not in as cut throat a business as the NFL, but if I went to my boss and said "You can't fire me, I did some good things 3 years ago", he'd rehire me just so he could fire me again.

Again - keeping Lou is a tacit admission by the FO that they hired the wrong guys. In any sane world, the people who made those decision would then get fired. But Mike and Katie can't be fired, and hence cannot admit that mistake.

It's telling that this fan base wants to act like 11 guys suddenly forgot how to play football. That Lou has been in there teaching this great scheme and they just... What?? Practice great all week and then forget how to play on Sunday?? Like every team in the league except us knew Murphy was a bust and wouldn't have picked him 2-3 spots later given the chance? (FWIW, he was a BEAST in Madden 2024)

Look at what Geno Stone's old boss is doing with the Chargers this year compared to last... You think coaching doesn't make a difference?? That Geno Stone suddenly forgot how to play football? So has Logan Wilson, Pratt... That when 4 guys stand around and watch a effin' TE catch a long ball the scheme is fine? And it's being taught well? Does this defense look organized and like it has a plan? Somehow Lou has managed to collect 20+ players that are just brain dead - and only on Sunday? Occam's razor says that this is the most likely reason? He's sticking with Geno Stone because the scheme is good??

I mean, maybe a 30 year old Mike Hilton has lost a step... Do you scheme to have him man to man against a speedster in the slot? Is that what a great coach does? Is the problem too many rookies or too many "washed" vets this time??

Lou is sticking with the players because he knows they aren't the problem. He knows nothing gets better by putting in Tycen Anderson. If it was a talent issue, he should be sitting the guys who can't play.

 

We have posters who want to both defend the Brown family and their frugal ways while also defending Lou for having "no talent". So now we're down to blaming position coaches and waterboys? And of course neither the FO or Lou is responsible for those guys... Child please. Geno Stone just isn't properly hydrated! Fire the guy who's name I don't know!

Again... This defense is HISTORICALLY bad. This isn't a down year, this is one of the all time worst performances ever. EVER. I'd rather make a change than keep making excuses.

[T-Dub]

6 minutes ago, LostInDaJungle said:

 Mike and Katie can't be fired, and hence cannot admit that mistake.
 

 

That's the root of the problem. If they can't be wrong, the people they hired can't be wrong, and so on all the way down.

 

Just injuries. Just bad luck.

[UncleEarl]

17 hours ago, PatternMaster said:

If the Bengals were smart they would can Taylor and hire Belicheck...Burrow + Chase + Belicheck = Superbowl 

 

Belicheck knows how to build a championship team, coach defense, and win close games...something our current HC can't seem to figure out.

 

As a coach...ehhh...not sure his tough guy act will work anymore without the best QB of all time having his back. 

 

As a GM Belichick was an absolute disaster!  Even worse than what the Bengals have done. 

 

Not interested.

 

Give me the Lions D coach.  That guy has those guys flying around even with a bunch of injuries.

[LostInDaJungle]

12 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

That's the root of the problem. If they can't be wrong, the people they hired can't be wrong, and so on all the way down.

 

Just injuries. Just bad luck.

We can only rely on shame, and they have so very little.

Unless the defense plays hair on fire over the last few weeks, they'll have to let Lou go just to quell a fan revolt. They still want your taxpayer money.

[Jungletiger]

3 hours ago, GoBengals said:

would anyone like to bet with me that taylor isnt fired?

 

im good for unlimited bets from $5-100 each that i think taylor stays.

 

lemme know. cashapp, venmo, paypal, etc..

 

I'm good to wager as long as I am the one betting he isn't fired lol

[BBR]

3 hours ago, GoBengals said:

Lou is a tough sell as well, his defenses were so good with solid palyers on the field, that he was getting multiple HC interviews. If he were fired he would be the #1 DC candidate on the market immediately.

 

So id be surprised if he were gone either.

 

That's why I said "maybe".  This year isn't over yet and I'm not sure that they will find any meaningful answers.  Regardless, Lou's defense was "so good" for only 2 of the years he's coached here.  If the defense continues to regress, the FO just might run out of ways to explain that they are keeping him even to themselves.  Lou needs to figure something out that works for the players they are putting on the field.  It can't keep spiraling out of control unless they finally decide to pack it in and lose for draft picks / evaluate players in the building for next year.

[|SF2|]

4 hours ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

I don't think he get's fired either but a person can dream can't they!?  

No dreaming for you!!

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Don’t forget the defense was bad last year, finishing in bottom third of the league in many categories.  Yet somehow they managed to get significantly worse this year.  People can blame injuries or a talent drop off but the numbers are what they are.  Wasted a prime year for Burrow and Chase because they couldn’t figure it out on the other side of the ball.  Heads should roll but with this organization who knows.  Whatever they were doing in the past isn’t getting it done with these players.  Only hope is to make changes and it also would help to actually hit on some draft picks.

[Mikeslumina]

Omar Epps just act like Tomlin

[PatternMaster]

12 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

The only coach I would want that's available.

 

Not sure he'd want to come here and work under this front office 

 

He's a football coach, he would rather coach a HOF QB like Burrow rather than do TV interviews with Pat McAfee