We need to talk about Evan (McPherson)

[|High School Harry|]

https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2024/11/24/bengals-horrific-evan-mcpherson-problem/

Bengals have a horrific Evan McPherson problem

 

The falloff for Cincinnati Bengals kicker Evan McPherson has been sudden and, in some cases, season-defining for the Bengals.

McPherson, affectionately called Money Mac and other names by fans, has been anything but this year. Over 11 games, he’s gone 15-of-21 and missed four of seven attempts from 40-plus yards.

A 71.4 percent overall average ranks McPherson tied for 36th in the league entering Week 12.

The struggles have started to carry over and impact other areas of the Bengals, too, with Zac Taylor opting to get more aggressive in some spots because he clearly can’t trust the kicking game.

And while the Bengals have many, many problems, there are also alarming details like this:

Earlier this year, special teams coordinator Darrin Simmons admitted that the operation of the kick has been part of the problem. McPherson is on his fourth holder in as many seasons.

“I think that’s contributed to some of it. There’s no question that the one in the Baltimore game was not a very good snap, and it wasn’t a good hold. I think that was pretty obvious to everybody,” Simmons said, according to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com. “I think the operation wasn’t perfect in the Cleveland game, frankly. I still expect Evan to make that kick, although it makes it more difficult when the snap’s not exactly right and the hold’s not exactly right.

That was late October, though, and the problems have remained. If all involved haven’t figured it out by now, perhaps the only route for the Bengals is waiting and seeing if their 25-year-old big-money kicker can figure it out over the rest of the season.

The Bengals gave McPherson a $14 million extension this past August, and wiggling out of it next offseason wouldn’t be ideal. But as if this season weren’t wonky enough for the Bengals, the rest of the year almost feels like an audition for him.

 

[Jamie_B]

Oh lord not another one of these.

 

He's having a down year, but he's still a good kicker.

 

We just need him to shoot up some kids so fans can completely run him out of town and watch him have a good year on another team.

 

 

What we actually need is a "We need to talk about Cam Taylor Britt" thread.

[T-Dub]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

Oh lord not another one of these.

 

He's having a down year, but he's still a good kicker.

 

We just need him to shoot up some kids so fans can completely run him out of town and watch him have a good year on another team.

 

 

What we actually need is a "We need to talk about Cam Taylor Britt" thread.

 

Can we acknowledge that shooting at kids with an AK pistol is a solid reason for running someone out of town?

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

 

Can we acknowledge that shooting at kids with an AK pistol is a solid reason for running someone out of town?

 

sure, if that was the only reason

[LostInDaJungle]

Take this with a MASSIVE grain of salt...

I used to kick. And I watch a dude on youtube called Isaac Punts. (He was way ahead on Rhekow being a force) So he's had some thoughts and theories. Kicking % was down early, and has rebounded a little.

The NFL uses Wilson "The Duke" footballs. Real leather, handmade, and inconsistent as hell. It's something you get used to, but it's why you'll see players choose "a ball", or why you see a QB test each ball for balance when they're throwing and warming up. One of the reasons QB's put spin on a throw is to even out the Bernoulli effect from laces, bad seams... Balls also have to prepped and broken in, scuffed, inflation... Kickers get end over end spin, and even too much variance in the laces or a bulging seam can throw you off. 

Anyway, long story short... His theory is that the balls aren't getting broken in enough, and that's leading to an increase in missed kicks, bad snaps, and fumbles. Or that this year's batch of balls is more inconsistent.

[claptonrocks]

3 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said:

Take this with a MASSIVE grain of salt...

I used to kick. And I watch a dude on youtube called Isaac Punts. (He was way ahead on Rhekow being a force) So he's had some thoughts and theories. Kicking % was down early, and has rebounded a little.

The NFL uses Wilson "The Duke" footballs. Real leather, handmade, and inconsistent as hell. It's something you get used to, but it's why you'll see players choose "a ball", or why you see a QB test each ball for balance when they're throwing and warming up. One of the reasons QB's put spin on a throw is to even out the Bernoulli effect from laces, bad seams... Balls also have to prepped and broken in, scuffed, inflation... Kickers get end over end spin, and even too much variance in the laces or a bulging seam can throw you off. 

Anyway, long story short... His theory is that the balls aren't getting broken in enough, and that's leading to an increase in missed kicks, bad snaps, and fumbles. Or that this year's batch of balls is more inconsistent.

Good stuff Lost

How long has the NFL used the Duke ball? 

 

The fact remains he's 29th out of 32 in the league in FG%..

It seems to affect him more than the he others.

 

Hopefully he shows out against the Inbreds but he MaybeMac for me right now.

[|High School Harry|]

4 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

sure, if that was the only reason

Then there was the incident downtown on Walnut just south of Fountain Square

where a 52 year old lady cut him off in traffic (maybe) and he responded by waiving

a pistol in her face... unproven but apparently someone though there was some fire to go

with that smoke.

[Jamie_B]

7 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

Then there was the incident downtown on Walnut just south of Fountain Square

where a 52 year old lady cut him off in traffic (maybe) and he responded by waiving

a pistol in her face... unproven but apparently someone though there was some fire to go

with that smoke.

 

Even "Bitch better have my money" McPherson

[|High School Harry|]

Preseason was major competition between Scott and Rehkow.

Perhaps Rehkow place holding was short changed, not enough

snapper to holder and placement to Mac's trust and timing.

I still back the Mac.

[claptonrocks]

40 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

Preseason was major competition between Scott and Rehkow.

Perhaps Rehkow place holding was short changed, not enough

snapper to holder and placement to Mac's trust and timing.

I still back the Mac.

That definitely a factor if true.

 

I watched alot of kickers miss today both XPs and FGs

 

I think Lost is onto something about this Duke ball.

Like to know how long it's been used in the league.

 

[T-Dub]

5 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

sure, if that was the only reason

 

Fair to say he was under a microscope but he also doesn't look like the same player in Houston.  Maybe a little bungalized behind a parade of 6-8 of the worst run blocking OL starters in recent history?  Zac's offense employs a rotation of 3rd down- or H-backs so anyone hoping for a consistent 20+ touches a game as a lead will be disappointed.  Guessing both the decline in performance & off-field mess were a part of something else but that's the Texans problem now.   They're 7-5 and should at least win their division.  Worked out fine for everyone including Marlon Humphrey.  Aside from that we'd have the same team with or without him.

 

 

[claptonrocks]

 

Did a lil history on the Duke ball.

Very interesting.

 

In the late 1800s the football was made of pig bladders and covered with leather for protection.

During 1941 the ball was made of rubber and leather, laced to a QBs placement for more efficiency .

George Halas proposed to name the new ball after Wellington Marra who's nickname was Duke 

 

When the leagues merged in 70 they dropped the name.

When Mara passed in 2015 the renamed it the Duke ball.

 

[Jamie_B]

26 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Fair to say he was under a microscope but he also doesn't look like the same player in Houston.  Maybe a little bungalized behind a parade of 6-8 of the worst run blocking OL starters in recent history?  Zac's offense employs a rotation of 3rd down- or H-backs so anyone hoping for a consistent 20+ touches a game as a lead will be disappointed.  Guessing both the decline in performance & off-field mess were a part of something else but that's the Texans problem now.   They're 7-5 and should at least win their division.  Worked out fine for everyone including Marlon Humphrey.  Aside from that we'd have the same team with or without him.

 

 

 

 

Yeeeeesssss

[Jamie_B]

 

[-GoBengals-]

or like.. evan isnt having a great year... shit be like that sometimes.. we have years of killer instinct clitch kicks taking us to the superbowl... gonna go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 

worst "media" in the absolute history of sports... also the worst fanbase in sports. 

[Randle P McMurphy]

17 hours ago, GoBengals said:

or like.. evan isnt having a great year... shit be like that sometimes.. we have years of killer instinct clitch kicks taking us to the superbowl... gonna go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 

worst "media" in the absolute history of sports... also the worst fanbase in sports. 

 

 

Don't forget the worst ownership in ALL SPORTS!  But back to the worst fanbase in sports.  The worst of the worst are the

one's that continually throw 10's of thousands of dollars at the worst ownership in team sports allowing them to continue

to operate a multi billion dollar franchise like a panhandler that spends all day in a wheelchair with a little white cup begging

for change only to get up at the end of the day and walk over to their Mercedes Maybach S680.  Sound familiar?  lol

 

 

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

 

Don't forget the worst ownership in ALL SPORTS!  But back to the worst fanbase in sports.  The worst of the worst are the

one's that continually throw 10's of thousands of dollars at the worst ownership in team sports allowing them to continue

to operate a multi billion dollar franchise like a panhandler that spends all day in a wheelchair with a little white cup begging

for change only to get up at the end of the day and walk over to their Mercedes Maybach S680.  Sound familiar?  lol

 

 

 

Ah yes it's the fans fault.

 

Nevermind that this is a league in which revenue sharing exists 

[claptonrocks]

5 hours ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

 

Don't forget the worst ownership in ALL SPORTS!  But back to the worst fanbase in sports.  The worst of the worst are the

one's that continually throw 10's of thousands of dollars at the worst ownership in team sports allowing them to continue

to operate a multi billion dollar franchise like a panhandler that spends all day in a wheelchair with a little white cup begging

for change only to get up at the end of the day and walk over to their Mercedes Maybach S680.  Sound familiar?  lol

 

 

Luminas...

[Randle P McMurphy]

5 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Ah yes it's the fans fault.

 

Nevermind that this is a league in which revenue sharing exists 

 

Yep!  The only way to get the Brown family to change how they do things is to hit them where it hurts.  Stop buying

seat licenses/tickets/team paraphernalia!  No doubt it's a league with revenue sharing but the majority of owners

are self-made billionaires not families that inherited a team and run it like a mom and pop convenience store!  If the

Bengals were forced to start playing home games in an empty stadium with a pro shop full of unsold shit how long do

you think it would be before the self made greedy billionaire owners of the other teams are going to get tired of allowing the Brown family

to "collect welfare," from them!?  I guarantee it wouldn't be long and they would get together to vote to either change the

revenue sharing or force the Brown family to sell the team.  Which owner was THE ONLY owner to vote against private equity firms

buying into NFL teams?  Yeah, Mike Brown.  The guy who supposedly, according to a few on here has had absolutely nothing

to do with the team in 10 years!  lol  Why did he do that?  To preserve the "status quo," he and his family currently benefit from.

The other owners are going to get tired of his BS if they aren't already and we as fans could hurry that along by boycotting!

[Jamie_B]

6 hours ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

Yep!  The only way to get the Brown family to change how they do things is to hit them where it hurts.  Stop buying

seat licenses/tickets/team paraphernalia!  No doubt it's a league with revenue sharing but the majority of owners

are self-made billionaires not families that inherited a team and run it like a mom and pop convenience store!  If the

Bengals were forced to start playing home games in an empty stadium with a pro shop full of unsold shit how long do

you think it would be before the self made greedy billionaire owners of the other teams are going to get tired of allowing the Brown family

to "collect welfare," from them!?  I guarantee it wouldn't be long and they would get together to vote to either change the

revenue sharing or force the Brown family to sell the team.  Which owner was THE ONLY owner to vote against private equity firms

buying into NFL teams?  Yeah, Mike Brown.  The guy who supposedly, according to a few on here has had absolutely nothing

to do with the team in 10 years!  lol  Why did he do that?  To preserve the "status quo," he and his family currently benefit from.

The other owners are going to get tired of his BS if they aren't already and we as fans could hurry that along by boycotting!

 

I'm guessing you haven't seen some of the near empty stadiums of other teams this year.

[|High School Harry|]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

I'm guessing you haven't seen some of the near empty stadiums of other teams this year.

I'm hoping to see a lot of empty seats for the home game with Cleveland

because their fans weren't told the game was flexed out of Thursday night.

Hey, maybe the team won't show up, either.

OR not show up even if the do.

[|High School Harry|]

https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2024/11/27/evan-mcpherson-reveals-surprising-defender-bengals-locker-room/

 

Cincinnati Bengals kicker Evan McPherson has had a brutal season so far, which has been a pretty good sign of how things have gone overall for the team.

But McPherson’s getting some support from key pieces within the locker room.

After the bye week, McPherson revealed that he’s actually apologized to guys like Joe Burrow and Ja’Marr Chase for letting them down. In the process, he also revealed that it’s Ja'Marr Chase who has come to his defense the most.

“I like to apologize to those guys because those guys play their tail off and for me not to come through at the end, it really sucks,” McPherson said, according to Geoff Hobsonof Bengals.com. “We give each other a hard time even if we’re struggling. He’s just a good guy. A good supportive teammate. He told me he’s always going to support me good or bad, win or lose. He’s always going to be there for me. I really appreciate that guy. Really good teammate.” …

It’s a really cool peek behind the curtain. Unsurprising but cool — players, like fans, understand that one player alone shouldn’t get all the blame or praise for wins and losses.

 

[LostInDaJungle]

On 11/26/2024 at 12:56 AM, GoBengals said:

worst "media" in the absolute history of sports... also the worst fanbase in sports. 

Sure... That's why McPherson misses kicks. We have disappointed the cult of Katie, and Paul Dehner is too mean. With all of the success this team has had over the last 50 years, you think they'd be nicer to the nepo billionaires.
 

[Randle P McMurphy]

4 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

I'm guessing you haven't seen some of the near empty stadiums of other teams this year.

 

I guess other teams fan's aren't as gullible as Bengals fans are.  

[Jamie_B]

8 minutes ago, Randle P McMurphy said:

 

I guess other teams fan's aren't as gullible as Bengals fans are.  

 

I'm sure that's it. But also, do we think the league is going to "get tired" of those owners?