https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpww85w5p30o

 

His presidency has been much maligned, but he accomplished a lot post presidency, and you can’t question his commitment to make the world a better place. 
 

RIP to a fine gentleman.

Here's a photo of him as a young man at the conn of SSK-1 & then in the control room of SSN-23, the fast attack Seawolf-class nuclear sub bearing his name

 

 

12 hours ago, Shebengal said:

and you can’t question his commitment to make the world a better place

 

lol delusional shitheels can question anything.

RIP

On 12/30/2024 at 7:47 AM, CincyInDC said:

 

lol delusional shitheels can question anything.

As a liberal you usually do 

On 12/30/2024 at 9:34 AM, Jamie_B said:

RIP

He has no choice.

 

4 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

He has no choice.

 

 

Ok? 

 

Still hope he rests in peace. 

2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Ok? 

 

Still hope he rests in peace. 

 

 

No this tireless example of human decency was unfortunately an Evil Democrat and will thus burn in hell for eternity.

 

Unlike our saintly Dear Leader, Donald Trump.  Good Christian, very holy, many people are saying it.

3 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

No this tireless example of human decency was unfortunately an Evil Democrat and will thus burn in hell for eternity.

 

Unlike our saintly Dear Leader, Donald Trump.  Good Christian, very holy, many people are saying it.

Oh the picture you paint with your hatred for our President

Your idea of utopia is a bad sign 

On 1/6/2025 at 9:11 PM, T-Dub said:

 

 

No this tireless example of human decency was unfortunately an Evil Democrat and will thus burn in hell for eternity.

 

Unlike our saintly Dear Leader, Donald Trump.  Good Christian, very holy, many people are saying it.

The so-called evangelical Christians who worship Donald Trump take their cues from the Old Testament, but are willing to ignore the commandments "Thou shall not commit adultery" and "Thou shall not bear false witness"  when it comes to Trump.

 

Jimmy Carter took his cues from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus about doing for others. He left the world a better place with his work post-presidency. The only people that Trump is going to make a better place for is the rich. 

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

The so-called evangelical Christians who worship Donald Trump take their cues from the Old Testament, but are willing to ignore the commandments "Thou shall not commit adultery" and "Thou shall not bear false witness"  when it comes to Trump.

 

Jimmy Carter took his cues from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus about doing for others. He left the world a better place with his work post-presidency. The only people that Trump is going to make a better place for is the rich. 

 

None of them read the Bible, just like they don't read history books, or the constitution they claim to love. These people are useful idiots and easily manipulated, it's why the mega church pastors who say thing so directly against Jesus' teachings and Trump are their people.

6 hours ago, Shebengal said:

The so-called evangelical Christians who worship Donald Trump take their cues from the Old Testament, but are willing to ignore the commandments "Thou shall not commit adultery" and "Thou shall not bear false witness"  when it comes to Trump.

 

Jimmy Carter took his cues from the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus about doing for others. He left the world a better place with his work post-presidency. The only people that Trump is going to make a better place for is the rich. 

That's your opinion.

Disagree with damn near all of it.

He was a horrible president but a good human being .

Trump was and will be a great President regardless how you feel about his personality.

 

39 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

That's your opinion.

Disagree with damn near all of it.

He was a horrible president but a good human being .

Trump was and will be a great President regardless how you feel about his personality.

 

 

Yeah probably not.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th

18 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Yeah probably not.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th

All rankings are subjective 

This one is so inaccurate it's a joke 

4 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

All rankings are subjective 

This one is so inaccurate it's a joke 

 

 

I think I'll stick with the people who get to write the history.

49 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

All rankings are subjective 

This one is so inaccurate it's a joke 

I'm not surprised you would discount this report. I'm just surprised you didn't dismiss it as the work of "evil liberal elites".

 

45 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

I think I'll stick with the people who get to write the history.

I would be curious to know the percentage of conservative, liberal, and moderate scholars who weighed in on this. Because if I'm reading the report correctly, even conservatives weren't too enthused with Trump. Overall, I found it interesting. 

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

I'm not surprised you would discount this report. I'm just surprised you didn't dismiss it as the work of "evil liberal elites".

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Shebengal said:

I would be curious to know the percentage of conservative, liberal, and moderate scholars who weighed in on this. Because if I'm reading the report correctly, even conservatives weren't too enthused with Trump. Overall, I found it interesting. 

 

 

Paper didnt break it out like that but it did come from American Political Science Association which best I can tell is non-partisan 

3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

I think I'll stick with the people who get to write the history.

Yeah like history is Allways accurate.

Please

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Yeah let's keep history is Allways accurate.

 

 

 

Yes

Just now, Jamie_B said:

 

Yes

Ask your mentor Dub if he thinks history isn't fabrication

He does.

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

Ask your mentor Dub if he thinks history isn't fabrication

He does.

 

 

My Mentor? 

 

 

 

45 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

My Mentor? 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah you heard him, bring me some eggrolls 

Presidential Greatness Project

 

Meh. I'm skeptical of any survey in which I, myself, cannot read the questions. Or know who the "experts" are. That's the case here. This is true of most polls, too. Generally, stuff like this is intended to nudge you into thinking in a particular way, as part of the crowd, instead of thinking for oneself.

 

My advice would be to read a shit ton of history and come up with your own list. And then you can explain your thoughts better. For example, I've read a half dozen biographies on JQAdams--some better than others--So I now have what I think to be a reasonable understanding of his pros and cons. Also, I've read a ton of books diving into the circumstances of his period. Genuine knowledge requires a fair amount of work.

 

A different kind of example: Some years ago Ron Chernow wrote a biography of U.S. Grant. Good book, but probably excessively "popularized" because of Chernow's track record, especially his bio of Hamilton. But an equally good bio of Grant is Ronald White's "American Ulysses." Indeed, White is better than Chernow on his pre-Civil War life, imo. Read 'em both (as well as his memoirs if you want to learn about Grant.)

 

My point is, be wary of any superficial "ranking" or "survey" or "poll." Particularly if it is presented to you in a highly-charged environment.

 

Edit to add: Plus, any outfit that has Al Gore on top of it's "Greatest Recent Vice Presidents" Survey has passed around too much Kool-Aid. Not the Jonestown kind, but the "Electric" kind. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!

T-Dub mentioned the Naval Service of President Carter, for which I have a great deal of respect. I know he interacted with one of my two McKee relatives who were also submariners. Go Bubbleheads!

2 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

My Mentor? 

 

 

 

Yeah.you got your head so far up his ass it's a wonder you can breathe.