5 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

Allen got them into the playoffs.

He's a great leader.

 

Joe is greater but we're talking elite here.

Throw in Jackson and Mahomes as well.

 

An era of greatest.

On 2/6/2025 at 8:03 PM, claptonrocks said:

How many great QBs have the Browns Ever had?

 

Please refrain from Otto Graham..

Too damn  long ago.

I remember near all of them and not one was 

close to elite..

It's almost comical to think in decades no hit.

 

They have the opportunity to draft a QB with huge potential as alot of the younger duel threat QBs are showing now.

I hope they bust again .

 

Maybe one - Baker Mayfield - but he became "good" after he got kicked out for Watson.

 

I know there may be some dispute, but here's the complete list of starting QBs for Cleveland's Football Team... name one better than Mayfield:

 

1. Ty Detmer
2. Tim Couch
3. Spergon Wynn
4. Doug Pederson
5. Kelly Holcomb
6. Luke McCown
7. Jeff Garcia
8. Charlie Frye
9. Trent Dilfer
10. Derek Anderson
11. Ken Dorsey
12. Brady Quinn
13. Bruce Gradkowski
14. Jake Delhomme
15. Seneca Wallace
16. Colt McCoy
17. Brandon Weeden
18. Thad Lewis
19. Jason Campbell
20. Brian Hoyer
21. Connor Shaw
22. Johnny Manziel
23. Austin Davis
24. Josh McCown
25. Robert Griffin III
26. Cody Kessler
27. Deshone Kizer
28. Kevin Hogan
29. Baker Mayfield
30. Tyrod Taylor
31. Nick Mullens
32. Case Keenum
33. Jacoby Brissett
34. Deshaun Watson
35. Jeff Driskel
36. Joe Flacco
37. Dorian Thompson-Hyphen-Robinson
38. P.J. Walker
39. Jameis Winston

22 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said:

 

Maybe one - Baker Mayfield - but he became "good" after he got kicked out for Watson.

 

I know there may be some dispute, but here's the complete list of starting QBs for Cleveland's Football Team... name one better than Mayfield:

 

1. Ty Detmer
2. Tim Couch
3. Spergon Wynn
4. Doug Pederson
5. Kelly Holcomb
6. Luke McCown
7. Jeff Garcia
8. Charlie Frye
9. Trent Dilfer
10. Derek Anderson
11. Ken Dorsey
12. Brady Quinn
13. Bruce Gradkowski
14. Jake Delhomme
15. Seneca Wallace
16. Colt McCoy
17. Brandon Weeden
18. Thad Lewis
19. Jason Campbell
20. Brian Hoyer
21. Connor Shaw
22. Johnny Manziel
23. Austin Davis
24. Josh McCown
25. Robert Griffin III
26. Cody Kessler
27. Deshone Kizer
28. Kevin Hogan
29. Baker Mayfield
30. Tyrod Taylor
31. Nick Mullens
32. Case Keenum
33. Jacoby Brissett
34. Deshaun Watson
35. Jeff Driskel
36. Joe Flacco
37. Dorian Thompson-Hyphen-Robinson
38. P.J. Walker
39. Jameis Winston

You forgot Bailey Zappe. He was the most recent starter. 😂

The 🐐 debate for Kermit was always absurd. 

 

4 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

The 🐐 debate for Kermit was always absurd. 

 

Agree..

Curious to see what Bradys totals were after the same full seasons..

8 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

Going over all his reads again with that pocket..

 

 

The prevailing theory is Stealers - Yellow (piss), Browns - Brown (poop), makes sense!

 

For those that didn't see it, this is the greatest troll job I've ever seen.

 

 

On 2/9/2025 at 12:42 PM, Shebengal said:

You forgot Bailey Zappe. He was the most recent starter. 😂

 

Thanks.... I just used a list from November rather than rebuilding the damn thing from scratch.  I should've known better than to use anything from more than a few weeks into the past, considering they've had 40 starters in their 25 years of history... that's averaging a brand new never-before-started-for-them chucklehead every 10 games.

On 2/9/2025 at 3:42 PM, Griever said:

 

That's old news.  Rodgers was told by the Jests that the team is moving in a new direction.  I believe that broke on Saturday, a day before Shultz tried to scoop it.

 

Not unexpected... with a new HC and new GM, both hired mid-season, and with both Rodgers and Davante Adams being expensive anchors preventing the team from doing another expected rebuild, and with his contract structured so that his cap hit in 2025 would be the highest of the term ($23.5M, nearly equal his entire TWO YEAR numbers from '23 and '24), him being shown the door was pretty much a done deal.

 

DK has him going to PIT (+200) or LVR (+300), with SFF (+350) and MIN (+400) next up.  Personally, since he needs only ATL (longshot at 75/1) and MIN to complete the Fantastic Favre, I'd like to see him head to the Vikings next.

 

Jackie Robinson walked so Cooper could run ... #GreatWhiteHype

 

Mahomes is not a top 5 QB anymore. He's a glorified close-wins-with-refs artist.

 

 

 

Take that Bengals 24x money multiplier now ...

 

BTW - Rodgers' coming departure is/was pretty much universally known, and with Adams sure to leave too AND a new HC and GM, the Jets would be looking to shed cap-hit players to give them more latitude when rebuilding via trades and the draft.  TE Tyler Conklin was on the last year of his contract in 2024, and is the same age as Gesicki... I'll bet OUR front office was planning to continue to play musical chairs at TE, doing the Uzomah-Irv Smith-Hurst-Gesicki shuffle and keeping a vet TE for one year before getting another.  But this is just me speculating here.

56 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

Burrow could only hope to play behind Eagles Oline.

Hurts proves he's in the top tier.

Hurts isn't a top tier QB. Eagles had the fewest passing attempts in the league last year for a reason. 

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