3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

Do people actually believe that "bend don't break" is a philosophy? That's what is said when your side of the ball isn't good, it's not a philosophy. 

It is his philosophy. He says yards aren't points. 

I am hopeful Lou is gone and Pollack is gone. 

 

Short list for DC

Dennis Allen*-My choice and expectation. He was interviewed before and I like that he has head coaching chops that can help Zac with game management. 

Matt Eberflus-Solid DC and HC experience

Mike Vrabel-He will likely get the job in NYJ or NEP

Brandon Staley-Just 1 year as a DC but was for Rams and he has HC experience

Jim Leonhard-DBs coach for Broncos, former Wisconsin DC

 

OL coach

John Benton-Saints OL coach-Was OL coach for Dolphins when Taylor was OC and QBs. Was OL coach for 49ers was given Jets Run game coordinator role so he moved to Jets. Was let go and went to Saints. 

4 hours ago, Spotto said:

Did the Bengals D play well yesterday, or did the Squeelers O play well?

- Tomlin going for it on 4th down - fail

- Pickens multiple drops

- Wilson multple over throws

- Wilson not running OOB.

 

I say the D was still below-average and often lost on assignments.  We were lucky to win!

 

Get a new DC and let 'em at our new younger D line and D backs!  It cant be worse......

The D is below average.

Need another NT to rotate with Jackson.

A couple guards that can move some people.

SS would help as well.

 

Build the lines.

It's been the foundation to success for a long time 

 

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

I am hopeful Lou is gone and Pollack is gone. 

 

 

 

Unless one of them is offered a promotion elsewhere you're going to be disappointed

6 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

Doubt anyone can. But this “fire x guy” is a fix-it to fans in any sport/anywhere. 

 

its so annoying, i dont get it.. whats in it for the fan who thinks and says it? whats the big win? constnat changing of staff has never been a successful effort. 

 

6 hours ago, TigerJ@w said:

Give the guy one year is not going to go over well.  

 

an odd move for sure. they arent going to be good next year either, so why not let the same guy take that L as well.

 

5 hours ago, sparky151 said:

 

So you're saying "Fire Duke"? I'd co-sign that but it is also true that Pollack is a below average O-line coach. When we brought in vets like OBj, Karras, and Cappa, they play worse for the Bengals than their prior teams. Also saying no coach ever turned a bad player into a good player is nonsense. That's what coaches are hired to do and sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't. Josh Allen was a bad NFL QB in 2018 and is a great one now, for instance.

 

Anarumo should be fired because the players weren't executing his scheme, apparently because they were unsure of their assignments. NFL games are played at speed and dithering over who to take as the receivers move downfield is a sign of bad coaching. There are lots of examples all season long of Bengal DBs blowing their coverage. That's on the DC as much as the players.

 

i think ive been pretty clear in my stance and opinion.

 

you dont need to fire anyone. OBJ Karras and Cappa is a flat out lie, OBJ played well and the same as before, just injured, Karras has been very good. Cappa has declined, but that happens, there can be many reasons.

 

with the talk of offensive line being a cohesive unit, only as good as the weakest link, have to gel together, play together, get real snaps together, etc.. how many RT have there been next to cappa in 3 years? 5? 6? 3 this year alone, no 4.. Brown, Ford, Mims, Cochran.  should somehow have no effect on him. he played GREAT the first 4 games of the season. when did the first change happen, week 4? then a rotation of guys since then? probably a coincidence. 

 

Volson fucking sucks. there are 36 Guards who pass block grade over a 65 or more... there are 64 starting guards.. so thats a lot of poor guard play in the league. this is also counting backups who managed 150 snaps total, which is 8-9 per game. which is nothing. 

 

so you want to fire the GM or the Oline coach because the nfl has a Oline problem because colleges all run spread or option offenses with mobile QBs and produce trash linemen for the last decade?

 

makes sense.. we can just fire them both every single year becasue thats not going to change.

 

PS: lets not even bother with the topic of location, while linemen arent as bad as some positions, but if youre trying to lure a free agent, and the Bengals are competing with any team in Colifornia, Texas, Florida, Chicago, New york, DC, Philly, atlanta, carolina, denver,  youre putting Ohio.... gloomy ass trash ass ohio, up against beach states, tax favoring states, entertainment capitals, big city lifestyles, you know, stuff millionaires and their wifes and kids care about, against... hamilton county...  im not a millionaire and i didnt even want to fucking live there. obviously some players this isnt a factor, which is cool, but some it 100% is, theyve all said so, coaches, players, everyone. 

 

5 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said:

https://factfully.ai/loading.php?text=never in the history of sports has any coach made bad players into good players. 

 

lololol 

 

5 hours ago, bentheprop said:

Lou's whole philosophy doesn't work. Yards, not points is a set up for failure when drives start at the 30 and kickers can hit from 50+. Also if the defensive draft picks aren't panning out then someone needs to be blamed and I would start with the guy in charge of them since we know they won't do anything with the front office. Lou needs players to adjust to his defense. A better coordinator would adjust his scheme to work with what he has.

 

well what he has changed every week. 

 

hubbard came in hurt and thus slow. 

we had to call a guy off his couch to even have enough DT's to play, both rookies out first what 4 weeks? then rankiins out after week 2 for a few, then rookies back and getting reps after missing preseason and first 4 games, then rankins back for a couple then rankins out forever, then logan went down, then Dax went down then Turner went down, we are palying uor 5th and 6th Corners as starters and heavy rotation guys. 

 

the roster was built with developing young players and expected to be middle of the pack scoring defense. young picks with solid veterans sprinkled in.

 

and he DID adjust the terminology when it was clear the calls were too complicated for the young and new players on defense, and the injuries stopped, and they played fairly well down the stretch, a few scrub teams but 2 playoffs teams.

 

youre going to fire a guy (either one) for depended upon defenders missing 70 games? again, like my other thread, thats what 4 palyers per gameaverage, and the missing players changed weekly, and eventually half of them just out for the year. 

 

Starting DE Hubbard- hurt in preseason, hurt all year out for year

Starting Dt, hurt after 2 games played a few then out for season with lung infection

#1 pick CB moved position played well, then out for season

#2 pick CB moved in to start, broken collarbone, out for season

Great LB best coverage linebacker had in years, out for season. 

 

definetly reason for firing a DC or GM... 

 

a whole new scheme for everyone to learn should really turn things around quickly!!!!111

 

15 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

 

its so annoying, i dont get it.. whats in it for the fan who thinks and says it? whats the big win? constnat changing of staff has never been a successful effort. 

 

 

an odd move for sure. they arent going to be good next year either, so why not let the same guy take that L as well.

 

 

i think ive been pretty clear in my stance and opinion.

 

you dont need to fire anyone. OBJ Karras and Cappa is a flat out lie, OBJ played well and the same as before, just injured, Karras has been very good. Cappa has declined, but that happens, there can be many reasons.

 

with the talk of offensive line being a cohesive unit, only as good as the weakest link, have to gel together, play together, get real snaps together, etc.. how many RT have there been next to cappa in 3 years? 5? 6? 3 this year alone, no 4.. Brown, Ford, Mims, Cochran.  should somehow have no effect on him. he played GREAT the first 4 games of the season. when did the first change happen, week 4? then a rotation of guys since then? probably a coincidence. 

 

Volson fucking sucks. there are 36 Guards who pass block grade over a 65 or more... there are 64 starting guards.. so thats a lot of poor guard play in the league. this is also counting backups who managed 150 snaps total, which is 8-9 per game. which is nothing. 

 

so you want to fire the GM or the Oline coach because the nfl has a Oline problem because colleges all run spread or option offenses with mobile QBs and produce trash linemen for the last decade?

 

makes sense.. we can just fire them both every single year becasue thats not going to change.

 

PS: lets not even bother with the topic of location, while linemen arent as bad as some positions, but if youre trying to lure a free agent, and the Bengals are competing with any team in Colifornia, Texas, Florida, Chicago, New york, DC, Philly, atlanta, carolina, denver,  youre putting Ohio.... gloomy ass trash ass ohio, up against beach states, tax favoring states, entertainment capitals, big city lifestyles, you know, stuff millionaires and their wifes and kids care about, against... hamilton county...  im not a millionaire and i didnt even want to fucking live there. obviously some players this isnt a factor, which is cool, but some it 100% is, theyve all said so, coaches, players, everyone. 

 

 

lololol 

 

 

well what he has changed every week. 

 

hubbard came in hurt and thus slow. 

we had to call a guy off his couch to even have enough DT's to play, both rookies out first what 4 weeks? then rankiins out after week 2 for a few, then rookies back and getting reps after missing preseason and first 4 games, then rankins back for a couple then rankins out forever, then logan went down, then Dax went down then Turner went down, we are palying uor 5th and 6th Corners as starters and heavy rotation guys. 

 

the roster was built with developing young players and expected to be middle of the pack scoring defense. young picks with solid veterans sprinkled in.

 

and he DID adjust the terminology when it was clear the calls were too complicated for the young and new players on defense, and the injuries stopped, and they played fairly well down the stretch, a few scrub teams but 2 playoffs teams.

 

youre going to fire a guy (either one) for depended upon defenders missing 70 games? again, like my other thread, thats what 4 palyers per gameaverage, and the missing players changed weekly, and eventually half of them just out for the year. 

 

Starting DE Hubbard- hurt in preseason, hurt all year out for year

Starting Dt, hurt after 2 games played a few then out for season with lung infection

#1 pick CB moved position played well, then out for season

#2 pick CB moved in to start, broken collarbone, out for season

Great LB best coverage linebacker had in years, out for season. 

 

definetly reason for firing a DC or GM... 

 

a whole new scheme for everyone to learn should really turn things around quickly!!!!111

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Griever said:

 

 

This also means Zacs brother is most likely out in Jacksonville. 

9 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

It is his philosophy. He says yards aren't points. 

 

That's why you have stats like scoring defenses.

38 minutes ago, Griever said:

 

 

 

Bad move. I get the Peterson thing, even though he has won a SB, but if you don't or cant put talent in the building for them to coach is that really a coaching problem?

5 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

Bad move. I get the Peterson thing, even though he has won a SB, but if you don't or cant put talent in the building for them to coach is that really a coaching problem?

Lawrence regressed. They have to have a new coach for him. 

1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said:

Lawrence regressed. They have to have a new coach for him. 

 

There isnt a QB in this game .... as evident by Mahomes mid level stats and absence from the pro-bowl, that is going to do much without talent around him. I don't think Lawerence is the guy everyone thought he was coming out of college, but he also has mid level talent around him AT BEST.

Just now, Jamie_B said:

 

There isnt a QB in this game .... as evident by Mahomes mid level stats and absence from the pro-bowl, that is going to do much without talent around him. I don't think Lawerence is the guy everyone thought he was coming out of college, but he also has mid level talent around him AT BEST.

 

Who hasn't regressed in that offense?

Just now, MichaelWeston said:

 

Who hasn't regressed in that offense?

 

Who's ever been good in it?

1 minute ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Who's ever been good in it?

Kirk-Etienne-Lawrence-Engram-Ridley

Just now, MichaelWeston said:

Kirk-Etienne-Lawrence-Engram

 

Yeesh

7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Yeesh

LOL. They had a top 10 passing offense in 2022 and 2023. 

8 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Unless one of them is offered a promotion elsewhere you're going to be disappointed

Must have gotten some nice promotions

Lou is out as well as others.

 

https://x.com/pauldehnerjr/status/1876277874782842948

 

Nothing appears imminent in Dallas. Pundits thinking Jerry sticks with McCarthy. 

11 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

I am hopeful Lou is gone and Pollack is gone. 

 

Short list for DC

Dennis Allen*-My choice and expectation. He was interviewed before and I like that he has head coaching chops that can help Zac with game management. 

Matt Eberflus-Solid DC and HC experience

Mike Vrabel-He will likely get the job in NYJ or NEP

Brandon Staley-Just 1 year as a DC but was for Rams and he has HC experience

Jim Leonhard-DBs coach for Broncos, former Wisconsin DC

 

OL coach

John Benton-Saints OL coach-Was OL coach for Dolphins when Taylor was OC and QBs. Was OL coach for 49ers was given Jets Run game coordinator role so he moved to Jets. Was let go and went to Saints. 

Left off Saleh

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/01/bengals-fire-dc-lou-anarumo

 

 

2 hours ago, Griever said:

 

 

Thats nuts. 

 

He could have been a P4 Head coach. Go get him