Building the Bengals 2025 Edition: 69/90

[sparky151]

16 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

York only has 2 years of experience. He should be an ERFA. 

 

Hm. Spotrac lists him as ERFA. OTC lists him as RFA as opposed to Kirkland who they list as ERFA.

 

[MichaelWeston]

3 hours ago, sparky151 said:

 

Hm. Spotrac lists him as ERFA. OTC lists him as RFA as opposed to Kirkland who they list as ERFA.

 

He was drafted in 22 but didn't play in 23 so he shouldn't have accumulated a year. 

[MichaelWeston]

1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said:

He was drafted in 22 but didn't play in 23 so he shouldn't have accumulated a year. 

 

This was his 23. 

 

New York Giants

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On November 3, 2023, York was signed by the New York Giants off the Titans practice squad.^[19] He was waived on November 22 and re-signed to the practice squad two days later.^[20][21] After suffering a quad injury in practice, the Giants placed him on injured reserve on December 23.^[22] He was not signed to a reserve/future contract and thus became a free agent at the end of the season.^[23]

 

^{That's wildly confusing, he was maybe on the Roster for 19 days and didn't play, so is that 19 days a year of experience? I have no idea.} 

[MichaelWeston]

1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said:

 

This was his 23. 

 

New York Giants

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On November 3, 2023, York was signed by the New York Giants off the Titans practice squad.^[19] He was waived on November 22 and re-signed to the practice squad two days later.^[20][21] After suffering a quad injury in practice, the Giants placed him on injured reserve on December 23.^[22] He was not signed to a reserve/future contract and thus became a free agent at the end of the season.^[23]

 

^{That's wildly confusing, he was maybe on the Roster for 19 days and didn't play, so is that 19 days a year of experience? I have no idea.} 

 

This says you need to be active or inactive for 6 weeks to count. So that was not the case. 

[sparky151]

If he was on the active roster when he went to IR, the games he missed would count toward vesting. If he was on the PS, then they wouldn't. If someone gets hurt and is out for the year after an injury in a preseason game before final cuts, I think they get credit for the year. 

[Hooky]

On 1/12/2025 at 9:00 AM, High School Harry said:

Moot point but Treyveon Williams gone one way or another?

You would think, but I expected him gone every off-season. He must be really strong on special teams.

[Hooky]

On 2/4/2025 at 11:28 AM, Griever said:

 

Great! We can let Tee walk now.

[|High School Harry|]

4 minutes ago, Hooky said:

You would think, but I expected him gone every off-season. He must be really strong on special teams.

I thought so, too, him being gone several seasons ago but sources close to the source

have told me that he has a number of pics of Mike Brown and Stormy Daniels nude hot tubbing

and you know what happens when someone crosses Stormy Daniels.

[MichaelWeston]

9 hours ago, sparky151 said:

If he was on the active roster when he went to IR, the games he missed would count toward vesting. If he was on the PS, then they wouldn't. If someone gets hurt and is out for the year after an injury in a preseason game before final cuts, I think they get credit for the year. 

I assume was not on the roster because it mentions they did not sign him to a reserve/future contract which you can only do with practice squaders/young street free agents. 

[dex]

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Meanwhile, Chase is expected to reset the non-QB market. An offer has been made by Cincinnati, but the two sides remain far apart in talks for now. If the Bengals can’t get deals done with all three, Hendrickson is most likely to be the odd man out.

[T-Dub]

Only thing that "has to give" is their willingness to keep paying underperforming players because they smile a lot or whatever. Cut the dead weight and they could afford to do whatever they want.

[sparky151]

Yeah, there should be a lot of turnover on the defense. If it were up to me, Hendrickson and Wilson would be the only guys back from last year's team that aren't on rookie contracts. Maybe Bachie or ADG as a backup. But we need a clean start over there. On offense, Moss and Volson should be following Cappa out the door. We should re-sign Higgins, Gesicki, and Ford. Maybe Williams or Hudson as well. 

 

They say you fill holes in free agency and add talent in the draft. IMO we should be looking for 2 starting guards, a RB, 2 DTs, a DE, 2 starting caliber LBs, and maybe a safety in free agency. Then good players in the draft. It's a tall order but the team can get to 100 mil under the cap without too much trouble or restructuring Burrow or using a lot of void years or anything they are uncomfortable with. 

[T-Dub]

2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

Yeah, there should be a lot of turnover on the defense. If it were up to me, Hendrickson and Wilson would be the only guys back from last year's team that aren't on rookie contracts. Maybe Bachie or ADG as a backup. But we need a clean start over there. On offense, Moss and Volson should be following Cappa out the door. We should re-sign Higgins, Gesicki, and Ford. Maybe Williams or Hudson as well. 

 

They say you fill holes in free agency and add talent in the draft. IMO we should be looking for 2 starting guards, a RB, 2 DTs, a DE, 2 starting caliber LBs, and maybe a safety in free agency. Then good players in the draft. It's a tall order but the team can get to 100 mil under the cap without too much trouble or restructuring Burrow or using a lot of void years or anything they are uncomfortable with. 

 

Not saying you're wrong about all that but ain't no way they're signing 8-10 free agents that aren't tackling dummy scrubs for camp. I agree they could, but they won't. We'll be lucky to get 3 of those you listed.

 

Honestly at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they end up tagging Ja'Marr next year. They're about their budget and their way of doing things. I see a franchise trying to do the least.

[sparky151]

5 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

Not saying you're wrong about all that but ain't no way they're signing 8-10 free agents that aren't tackling dummy scrubs for camp. I agree they could, but they won't. We'll be lucky to get 3 of those you listed.

 

Honestly at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they end up tagging Ja'Marr next year. They're about their budget and their way of doing things. I see a franchise trying to do the least.

 

Agreed the front office is unambitious. But they still can sign mid-tier guys from free agency. I don't expect them to pursue Fries or Sweat or Milton Williams or Carlton Davis, etc. There is a decent group of guards on the market this year. They can replace Volson and Cappa for the same money with better players. Likewise, cutting Hubbard and Rankins would clear the way for 20 mil of replacement linemen. IMO they should take a run at Baun and Greenlaw at LB but they can go for solid vet, depth guys on the D-line. Say Dante Fowler, Jarran Reed, Poona Ford, and Roy Lopez. That group won't break the bank and should be in the Bengals comfort zone. 

[Jamie_B]

The JJ Watt thing is over, their goalie got scored on

[Le Tigre]

9 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

The JJ Watt thing is over, their goalie got scored on

But his team won. This puts them but 2 points out of the #2 spot and auto promotion to the Premier League…a guarantee of at least £50m to the team coffers. Not a bad trade for a goofy bet with a retired NFL “celebrity”. 

[BBR]

On 2/28/2025 at 7:47 AM, MichaelWeston said:

We are at 61. I'm still including York and Kirkland. A little odd that Kirkland isn't back yet. They could be choosing not to re-sign York. Both are EFAs and should be really cheap. I think Kirkland has a big upside and York was fine after some early struggles. 

 

 

 

Kirkland is coming back.

[MichaelWeston]

Hudson back. Makes too much sense but too little at the same time

[Dautcom08]

40 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

Hudson back. Makes too much sense but too little at the same time

 

You're right.  Last move of the offseason.  Season over.

[MichaelWeston]

36 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:

 

You're right.  Last move of the offseason.  Season over.

 

Huh?

[sparky151]

8 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Hudson back. Makes too much sense but too little at the same time

 

He's the backup plan if Gesicki leaves. 

[BronxBengal]

LOL…this organization is such a shit show.  It is bipolar comical but yet tragic.  I have zero confidence they even have a plan, but hope I am wrong

[sparky151]

24 minutes ago, BronxBengal said:

LOL…this organization is such a shit show.  It is bipolar comical but yet tragic.  I have zero confidence they even have a plan, but hope I am wrong

 

The plan is for Duke to be out of the office with his phone turned off next week. Katie and kin will be skiing in Switzerland. 

 

Then a couple weeks into free agency, they will shop for scraps.

 

[MichaelWeston]

I took Cade York off and added Ford and Gesicki

[saphead]

I'll always hope that the Bengals win and have success but if they fuck this all up like it looks like they will, I'm just gonna check out, like I did in the 90's. I'll pay attention, but I won't be as emotionally invested, hanging on every play. I don't live in Cincinnati proper, so I'm kinda watching from afar anyway.