|BlackJesus| Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 With Golden at DC I think the team may consider his Irish S Xavier Watts at pick #17. He's projected to be a first rounder. Quote
texbengal Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said: Jihaad Campbell? Yes- he’s the top-rated guy. Some have him as a first round talent while others I’ve read have him in round 2. He’s a very good player and unlike most other higher-rated guys, he’s got good size. Most of the other guys are in the 6-2/225 range (on paper), but I guess the upcoming NFL Combine and pro days will tell the truth on that. Don’t know how Al likes them (compared to Lou), but Campbell def fits more of the Logan Wilson and Germaine Pratt size profile. Quote
|High School Harry| Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2025/01/24/bengals-playbook-changes-al-golden/ Bengals' playbook will see some changes under new DC Al Golden One of the biggest reasons the Cincinnati Bengals went back to Al Golden, this time as a defensive coordinator, is due to the hope his proximity to college players and past work in the NFL equates to rapid player development. But that doesn’t mean Golden won’t leave his mark with a playbook of his own, either. While there will be some similarities to Lou Anarumo’s playbook, such as the base nickel 4-2, he told Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com that other parts of the playbook will be ripped up and redone which is unfortunate because some of the players like Cam Taylor-Whiff, Jordan Battle and D J Ivey have not finished coloring all the pages in the old one. 3 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 If Golden wants to run man on man we desperately need a CB1 1 Quote
New Jersey Bengal Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 hours ago, texbengal said: Yes- he’s the top-rated guy. Some have him as a first round talent while others I’ve read have him in round 2. He’s a very good player and unlike most other higher-rated guys, he’s got good size. Most of the other guys are in the 6-2/225 range (on paper), but I guess the upcoming NFL Combine and pro days will tell the truth on that. Don’t know how Al likes them (compared to Lou), but Campbell def fits more of the Logan Wilson and Germaine Pratt size profile. And he can cover tight ends! 1 Quote
dex Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: If Golden wants to run man on man we desperately need a CB1 When Taylor-Britt was coming out of Nebraska, he was considered far more of a man-to-man CB than a zone guy because of his physicality. This new style of defense (if it happens) might be right in his wheelhouse. Newton played quite a bit of it too at the college level. 1 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 52 minutes ago, dex said: When Taylor-Britt was coming out of Nebraska, he was considered far more of a man-to-man CB than a zone guy because of his physicality. This new style of defense (if it happens) might be right in his wheelhouse. Newton played quite a bit of it too at the college level. Do you trust either of those guys to be a true CB1? Quote
sparky151 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 17 hours ago, T-Dub said: Seems unlikely. My guess is they let Cappa stay, Volson returns to LG and then hope a mid-round draft pick unseats one of them. Seems unlikely they let Cappa stay when they could save money while upgrading by replacing him. Players like Van Wroten, Tomlinson, or Risner were free agents last year and didn't get big money. I think Tomlinson+Risner could be had for considerably less than Cappa alone. That will get old musty's approval. Volson will still be around for his 4th season on his rookie deal. I expect Ford will also be re-signed. 16 hours ago, dex said: Here is one: 59. G Brandon Scherff, Jacksonville Jaguars After a rash of injuries kept Scherff on the shelf for a handful of games in each season from 2018-21, he bounced back in a major way by starting every game over his three-year contract with the Jaguars from 2022-24. The top-five pick doesn’t quite have All-Pro/Pro-Bowl tape anymore, but he is still a very capable starter, particularly in pass protection. Scherff would probably cost about as much as Cappa. Possible Bengal signing but unlikely. 16 hours ago, T-Dub said: Since this is a thread about the new DC, how many of last year's defensive starters need to be replaced in order to get this team back in the postseason? I'm thinking somewhere between 3 and 5. IMO we need upgrades from Rankins, Hubbard, Hill, Hilton, plus probably Pratt and Stone. And a good CB1 would be nice too. Not sure who we would consider fills that role currently. I'll guess we start Murphy, Jackson, and Jenkins (+Trey) on the D-line, Wilson and Pratt at LB, and the usual suspects in the secondary with Hill replacing Hilton. To that baseline we'd add any free agents and draft picks. 14 hours ago, T-Dub said: Yeah I'm not sure who would play that "strong" OLB spot over the TE in a 4-3 out of the current roster. With our current roster, if we go to 3 LB, wouldn't it be Njongmeta in the middle, flanked by Wilson and Pratt? 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 8 hours ago, BlackJesus said: With Golden at DC I think the team may consider his Irish S Xavier Watts at pick #17. He's projected to be a first rounder. Watts won't be a first rounder. He's a safety with good ball skills but average physical traits. Starks will be a first rounder with Barron also likely. 2 hours ago, Jamie_B said: If Golden wants to run man on man we desperately need a CB1 Yes, that puts us in line to maybe pick Morrison or Revel at 17. If we go pass rusher in the first, there aren't any decent man to man corners for later. Maybe they take a flyer on the UTSA guy late in hopes he's another Woolen. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Watts won't be a first rounder. He's a safety with good ball skills but average physical traits. Starks will be a first rounder with Barron also likely. Yes, that puts us in line to maybe pick Morrison or Revel at 17. If we go pass rusher in the first, there aren't any decent man to man corners for later. Maybe they take a flyer on the UTSA guy late in hopes he's another Woolen. Where is Morrison in his recovery? Will he be ready by the combie? Quote
sparky151 Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Where is Morrison in his recovery? Will he be ready by the combie? Dunno. He had surgery after the injury and the fact he entered the draft instead of staying in college would indicate he's confident he'll be highly drafted. Which suggests he'll be ready for the combine and pro day. If he couldn't work out, he wouldn't be a first round pick this year and would be better off staying in college, either at ND or auctioning his services to the highest bidder in the portal. 1 Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 9 hours ago, BlackJesus said: With Golden at DC I think the team may consider his Irish S Xavier Watts at pick #17. He's projected to be a first rounder. Only safety in RD1 would be Malaki Starks . 2 Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Jamie_B said: If Golden wants to run man on man we desperately need a CB1 Wouldn't he know that? Doubt they consider a CB1 with their first pick. Getting the trenches built better would be the priority. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 19 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Wouldn't he know that? Doubt they consider a CB1 with their first pick. Getting the trenches built better would be the priority. You can get to the QB with a good DE OR a CB1 that can lock down a guy and cause coverage sacks. I don't think they limit themselves to what they HAVE to take. 1 Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: You can get to the QB with a good DE OR a CB1 that can loc 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: You can get to the QB with a good DE OR a CB1 that can lock down a guy and cause coverage sacks. I don't think they limit themselves to what they HAVE to take. k down a guy and cause coverage sacks. I don't think they limit themselves to what they HAVE to take. Pass rushers can make a corners task alot easier. If opposing WBs get the time even Patrick Surtain or Sauce Gardner couldn't hang.. Another consideration is Stopping the Run.. We have Jackson at NT...would look like to see a player such as NT Kenneth Grant in the mix.. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Pass rushers can make a corners task alot easier. If opposing WBs get the time even Patrick Surtain or Sauce Gardner couldn't hang.. Another consideration is Stopping the Run.. We have Jackson at NT...would look like to see a player such as NT Kenneth Grant in the mix.. It's not an either or though, both work in tandem. Yeah stopping the run in this division especially is just as important. 1 Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's not an either or though, both work in tandem. Yeah stopping the run in this division especially is just as important. Agree They have much work to do to help Golden.. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Agree They have much work to do to help Golden.. Yup Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Yup Question Are you super excited that Golden is D Im feeling more of a wait and see with him. Hoping for the best. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Question Are you super excited that Golden is D Im feeling more of a wait and see with him. Hoping for the best. Wait and see is exactly where I am. 1 Quote
texbengal Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 I would say wait and see as well - but that'd be no different for me had Graham or Leonard or others been chosen. Coaching matters, no doubt. But in the end, you gotta have the players and this D (as currently constituted) doesn't. Obviously Tre is great, but beyond that, you wonder if there's anyone who'd be considered an above-average starter on D. Wilson, maybe... but the last few years, he hasn't been. Potentially, Dax Hill. CTB has played at that level in the past, but he wasn't in 2024. Who else? Maybe a few of the young guys will step up... hopefully, because they need that. And maybe Golden does a better job at maximizing his current players' abilities. That'll help as well. But he still needs a LOT more horsepower. 2 Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 19 hours ago, texbengal said: Same. I want guys with some NFL skins on the wall. Wouldn't be opposed to keeping Ford, and have him compete for a starting role, or if not, be a good depth piece off the bench. If we signed two vets I would still draft 2 , we need backups as well and we virtually have none. They can develop or replace if they play better. The OL room need significant talent upgrades and numbers of better players as well. 1 Quote
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