Arkansas Bengal Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 The Bengals took Burton in the third round (80th overall) in the 2024 NFL Draft. James Rapien | 10 Hours Ago Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Jermaine Burton (81) walks for the locker room at halftime of the NFL Week 11 game between the Los Angeles Chargers and the Cincinnati Bengals at SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif., on Sunday, Nov. 17, 2024. The Chargers led 24-6 at halftime. / Sam Greene/The Enquirer / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images CINCINNATI — Bengals wide receiver Jermaine Burton had a disappointing rookie season—both on and off the field. The 23-year-old finished with just four catches for 107 yards after the Bengals picked him with the 80th overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. Burton was also accused of assault and was a healthy inactive after being a no-call, no-show ahead for an important Saturday walkthrough when he was set to play a big role against the Raiders. Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin didn't pull any punches when he was asked about Burton in an interview with Kelsey Conway of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "He's done nothing, and he's going to have to start doing something quickly," Tobin said when asked what Burton has done to earn a roster spot. "We knew we were taking a risk. We felt comfortable that we could help him through some of the challenges he's had in the past, and we're going to continue to try to help him." The no-call, no show wasn't the only time Burton was late or absent from mandatory practices, lifts and team meetings. "This is professional football, and you have to take accountability, and you have to be accountable to your teammates, your coaches, and the team that you're playing for, and he has to figure that out," Tobin said. "He's got to figure that out fast. He's a very talented player, and we knew that there were risks in taking him. We knew there were rewards in taking him. We know what both of those are. We're hoping for the rewards. We're giving him the resources he needs to get to those rewards, but at the end of the day, you can't want it more for somebody than they want it for themselves. And we're hoping that Jermaine figures that out." It's safe to say Burton is on the roster bubble and the Bengals won't be banking on him moving forward. Trust is earned and he clearly has lost the trust of the front office and probably most of the coaching staff. https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/duke-tobin-gives-blunt-response-when-asked-about-jermaine-burton-he-s-done-nothing-01jjw2es5m41?fbclid=IwY2xjawIJGjpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHeFwdkbBz-O_7KhJq0egvAviCwrRsSCUV9Qy5PBlzKuUlhPjGkTbZe3KcA_aem_tGtVUrDmBSgcxaUmQ-6SLg 1 Quote
MichaelWeston Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 I would bet that they are really hoping he does something so bad it voids his contract. 2 Quote
claptonrocks Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: I would bet that they are really hoping he does something so bad it voids his contract. Not hoping...waiting. 2 Quote
T-Dub Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Wow, that's disappointing. He should really take a hard look at whoever screwed up by drafting him. 2 Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Tobin says 'they knew the risks' but does not say he is allowed to take dumb risks becuse his job is never on the line. 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 13 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: I would bet that they are really hoping he does something so bad it voids his contract. They don't need to hope for that. If they don't want him, they can cut him with pretty minimal cap impact. If they are hoping he does something so egregious an arbritrator will award them back 3/4 of his signing bonus, dream on. 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Tobin says 'they knew the risks' but does not say he is allowed to take dumb risks becuse his job is never on the line. It wasn't necessarily a dumb risk, just one that hasn't worked out. Some young men do mature after reaching the NFL. So far, Burton isn't one of them. 2 Quote
Le Tigre Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 It’s a roll of the dice…1st Round/3rd Round/7th Round. These guys are analyzed/dissected/evaluated down to the finest point. But…when it’s time to choose, they roll the bones. 1 Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: It wasn't necessarily a dumb risk, just one that hasn't worked out. Some young men do mature after reaching the NFL. So far, Burton isn't one of them. Points, Tobin can take more risks knowing his job is secure. With that mindset I think it can skew one’s thinking process. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 18 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: I would bet that they are really hoping he does something so bad it voids his contract. Why? He's a 3rd round pick making very little, cutting him would not hurt them from a cap point of view. Quote
|SF2| Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 8 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Tobin says 'they knew the risks' but does not say he is allowed to take dumb risks becuse his job is never on the line. Almost every move carries risk. Joe Mixon certainly was a risk that was captured live on video but he panned out for us. Signing Adam “PAC MAN” Jones was a huge risk in many ways (and I admit I was totally against it) but he gave us some great years. Hero worship of young boys at an early age by grown adults, to include looking the other way at any improper conduct, has different effects on different people. Chris Carter is a perfect case study of how it sometimes works out for the good eventually. 4 Quote
T-Dub Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Other teams employ scouting departments so that they have as much information as possible about the risks they are taking. The Bengals don't do that, and it shows. Quote
|SF2| Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 25 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Other teams employ scouting departments so that they have as much information as possible about the risks they are taking. The Bengals don't do that, and it shows. The Bengals knew exactly what they were doing and what his issues were. They were trying to find a decent replacement for Higgins cheap so they could spend the money somewhere else. It hasn’t worked out. 1 Quote
dex Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 43 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Other teams employ scouting departments so that they have as much information as possible about the risks they are taking. The Bengals don't do that, and it shows. TJ Houshmanzadeh, the Paul Alexander of (personal) WR coaches, gave Tobin and the Brown family his seal of approval on his pupil Jermaine Burton. 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 1 hour ago, dex said: TJ Houshmanzadeh, the Paul Alexander of (personal) WR coaches, gave Tobin and the Brown family his seal of approval on his pupil Jermaine Burton. Did they share an agent or something? Whoever the agent, I'm sure he's coached Burton on how to answer questions and present the generic sort of faux "integrity" or whatever that's expected of an NFL athlete. ...and the Bengals fell for it, and then he got paid, and immediately went back to being who he really is/was again. Which, honestly, should not have come as a surprise to anyone, let alone those making decisions at the NFL executive level who have been down this very road many times before. Are the Cincinnati Bengals trying to win football games, or are they in the business of trying to "redeem" people? They should probably pick a lane because they're having mixed results at either one. Quote
MichaelWeston Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 4 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Why? He's a 3rd round pick making very little, cutting him would not hurt them from a cap point of view. They'd save nearly a million 1 Quote
T-Dub Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 27 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: They'd save nearly a million They'd also send a strong message that you don't get to screw around like a complete jagoff on this team and still get paid, which is priceless. I'd maybe give him until the minicamp to show up like he's ready to work but the next time his name comes up it better be how he's training with so-and-so or something halfway positive like that. Of course if any of this gf-beating stuff turns out to be true in the meantime they should kick his ass to the curb immediately. Thinnest of ice, and make sure he knows it. 1 Quote
|High School Harry| Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 13 hours ago, dex said: TJ Houshmanzadeh, the Paul Alexander of (personal) WR coaches, gave Tobin and the Brown family his seal of approval on his pupil Jermaine Burton. Is it just me or does anyone else think having T.J. Whosyourmama for a mentor is something like having Hannibal Lechner as your personal chef? We may have identified part of the problem. Quote
PatternMaster Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, High School Harry said: Is it just me or does anyone else think having T.J. Whosyourmama for a mentor is something like having Hannibal Lechner as your personal chef? We may have identified part of the problem. It's just you...not sure what's your beef with TJ 1 Quote
PatternMaster Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 13 hours ago, SF2 said: The Bengals knew exactly what they were doing and what his issues were. They were trying to find a decent replacement for Higgins cheap so they could spend the money somewhere else. It hasn’t worked out. He's Tee's replacement and will be given every opportunity to do so, he's the perfect scapegoat...if he sucks the fans will blame him and his off the field problems .if he's good the fans will say how smart we are for letting Tee go. Either way the front office comes out smelling like roses. 1 Quote
PatternMaster Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 12 hours ago, T-Dub said: Did they share an agent or something? Whoever the agent, I'm sure he's coached Burton on how to answer questions and present the generic sort of faux "integrity" or whatever that's expected of an NFL athlete. ...and the Bengals fell for it, and then he got paid, and immediately went back to being who he really is/was again. Which, honestly, should not have come as a surprise to anyone, let alone those making decisions at the NFL executive level who have been down this very road many times before. Are the Cincinnati Bengals trying to win football games, or are they in the business of trying to "redeem" people? They should probably pick a lane because they're having mixed results at either one. They are in the business of making as much money as possible for the Brown/Blackburn family.. Quote
|High School Harry| Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 42 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: It's just you...not sure what's your beef with TJ I didn't like the hissy fits at the refs for a flag every time he didn't catch a ball. 1 Quote
Jamie_B Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 14 hours ago, SF2 said: The Bengals knew exactly what they were doing and what his issues were. They were trying to find a decent replacement for Higgins cheap so they could spend the money somewhere else. It hasn’t worked out. This is exactly what they were doing, it's what they did when Marvin was here and we took guys like this before and it didn't work out then either. Seems like a better scouting department could potentially solve that problem too. Quote
Jamie_B Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 11 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: They'd save nearly a million Which isn't going to make or break them from signing other guys. Quote
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