Cincinnati Bengals Release Alex Cappa, Add Extra Cap Space Ahead of Free Agency

[BBR]

1 hour ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Crosby 3 years 106

 

1 hour ago, BlackJesus said:

 

Trey isn't getting that # from Cincinnati.

 

Could be a sign he's traded. 

 

"$106.5 million extension that includes $91.5 guaranteed, making him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history, per sources."

 

Good for Maxx Crosby but that's insane and there's no way they can toss that sort of deal at Trey with Chase, Tee and others needing paid.  They really need to get moving one way or another with these guys or it's all going to get blown up.

[BBR]

1 hour ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Crosby 3 years 106

 

1 hour ago, BlackJesus said:

 

Trey isn't getting that # from Cincinnati.

 

Could be a sign he's traded. 

 

"$106.5 million extension that includes $91.5 guaranteed, making him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history, per sources."

 

Good for Maxx Crosby but that's insane and there's no way they can toss that sort of deal at Trey with Chase, Tee and others needing paid.  They really need to get moving one way or another with these guys or it's all going to get blown up.

[I_C_Deadpeople]

For both Crosby and the Eagles LB, note the guaranteed amounts. Sorry Bengals, but you need to work with reality of today's contrcats and not your own version of what it should be. 

 

It is pretty clear that guarantees are becoming a bigger and bigger part of the contract landscape. The longer the team flounders with these 3 big contracts, the more it will cost. 

 

What was JJ's guaranteed amount in his deal? 

[I_C_Deadpeople]

I looked it up - Jefferson was a 4 year $140M deal with $110M guaranteed. 

 

There is the 'template' Tobin mentioned.  Chase will take more than that. Simple, get it done. 

[I_C_Deadpeople]

40 minutes ago, BBR said:

 

 

"$106.5 million extension that includes $91.5 guaranteed, making him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history, per sources."

 

Good for Maxx Crosby but that's insane and there's no way they can toss that sort of deal at Trey with Chase, Tee and others needing paid.  They really need to get moving one way or another with these guys or it's all going to get blown up.

Again, we could have extended Trey last season but they had thier heads up their asses. 

[|Montana Bengal|]

16 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

Again, we could have extended Trey last season but they had thier heads up their asses. 

 

Isn't like the didn't extend him the year before "Hendrickson signed a contract extension through the 2025 season on July 27, 2023"

[-GoBengals-]

On 3/4/2025 at 6:58 PM, T-Dub said:

 

 

I mean..  Yeah he sucked last year but now our starting guards are Cordell Volson and the sound of wind in the trees.

 

yea man its march.

 

what does it matter who is on the roster when he is released?

 

if your comment isnt insinuating we arent going to add any guards at all and roll with what we got..

 

then what is the point of that comment?

 

did you know the only player under contract for 2029 is joe burrow?  how are we even going to be able to PLAY A GAME WITH JUST A QB ON THE ROSTER?!?!?!

 

 

[T-Dub]

22 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

 

yea man its march.

 

what does it matter who is on the roster when he is released?

 

 

 

I guess it depends on how much faith you have in their ability to attract talented free agents?  Like how I'd be ok with moving both Hendrickson & Higgins if I was at all confident they'd get a good return for them & those assets (draft picks/cap room) were going to be re-invested effectively (or at all).

 

I simply don't have that level of trust in this FO right now but sure, they've got about 6 months to change my opinion.

 

Generally speaking it matters because they already have a lot of holes to fill, so it's a little bit concerning when they seem to be digging new ones every day.

[Dautcom08]

9 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

I guess it depends on how much faith you have in their ability to attract talented free agents?  

 

At the time of signing and contributions all within the Burrow era...

 

Hendrickson

Bell

Awuzie

Reader

Hilton

Karras

Cappa

Brown Jr

 

For me?  Pretty high.  But I know that doesn't fit the trendy Negative Nancy narrative.

 

[alleycat]

5 hours ago, Dautcom08 said:

 

At the time of signing and contributions all within the Burrow era...

 

Hendrickson

Bell

Awuzie

Reader

Hilton

Karras

Cappa

Brown Jr

 

For me?  Pretty high.  But I know that doesn't fit the trendy Negative Nancy narrative.

 

 

Burrow probably continues to draw big FA's, though our ability to be legit contenders surely helps. He took us to the SB his 1st year, AFC championship 2nd, but since then...whether he gets hurt or has the league passing title, it's clear the rest of the team is regressing and so complicates the decision. 

 

I think the thing that's frustrating is that they haven't proven especially great with their FA signings. For every Reader there is a Rankins. I can think of 3 or 4 big name FAs who signed big deals here and then basically didn't even play. And what makes THAT so much more painful is that we let our own proven guys walk. You can only do this when you assume that you are going to replace that value with value elsewhere. And this is particularly a dangerous approach if you have to have the replacement work out, because you haven't developed the back up plan in-house. But our miss rate in FA and the draft is VERY HIGH, and the last couple of seasons, in particular, are in abject lesson in their plan simply not working as planned. 

 

The only thing worse than that plan is being faced with the evidence, and continuing to think you can follow the plan and have it work out. In other words, this is a team that's hoping for the best (luck) as their solution. But the motive behind that solution seems driven by financial notions of value and savings...and at least to my eye, the value we would have given up by paying a little extra to keep our guys who are proving themselves (especially when the returns are early, and we can get them cheaper by having faith in our eyes and pulling the trigger) easily outweighs the cost of losing those guys and having their FA or draft pick replacements fail to measure up. 

[Le Tigre]

And one has to think…as he gets even closer to that “He’s 30…time for Carousel” milestone, without a competitive (like playoff quality) foundation, his ability to draw upper tier FA’s will diminish. And worse so, if the team continues to languish “in the hunt”.

[Jackie Treehorn]

I expect Burrow to be an elite QB into his 30s easily assuming health. There isn't a big drop in performance at 30 as a QB like there can be at other positions. 

 

 

Could Trey be another one? Sure. It's certainly rare to stay an elite pass rusher going into your 30s though.

[Le Tigre]

4 minutes ago, Jackie Treehorn said:

Could Trey be another one? Sure. It's certainly rare to stay an elite pass rusher going into your 30s though.

I posted in some thread (don’t recall which one) that Bruce Smith (sorry didn’t meet that 11 season benchmark..wherever that came from) had 108 of his 200 career sacks after the age of 30. Reggie White had 90. 
 

And these guys were not reduced to pass rush specialists. And they did it without the NFL allowing ultra holding on every down. 
 

Trey was underused early in his career. He has more than enough gas to go well into his 30’s 
 

 

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

40 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

I posted in some thread (don’t recall which one) that Bruce Smith (sorry didn’t meet that 11 season benchmark..wherever that came from) had 108 of his 200 career sacks after the age of 30. Reggie White had 90. 
 

And these guys were not reduced to pass rush specialists. And they did it without the NFL allowing ultra holding on every down. 
 

Trey was underused early in his career. He has more than enough gas to go well into his 30’s 
 

 

 

I get that but those players were also from 20-30 years ago. In recent NFL history it’s become increasingly rare hence using the last 11 seasons in this example. 

[Le Tigre]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Treehorn said:

I get that but those players were also from 20-30 years ago. In recent NFL history it’s become increasingly rare hence using the last 11 seasons in this example. 

Why should the passage of eras have any affect on the abilities of the human body to produce in stress/traumatic situations? 
 

If Bruce Smith (who I watched play by the way) can beat tackles who actually had to block..and be productive…why does it eliminate a 2025 player of similar abilities?

 

Not everything can be capsulized in a media-accepted paradigm 

[|BlackJesus|]

50 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

Why should the passage of eras have any affect on the abilities of the human body to produce

 

It's a size issue ... Bruce Smith was running into a 6'3, 270 lb LT ... While Trey is running into a 6'6, 340 lb tackle every week.

 

Everyone on the OL is now bigger and stronger. 

[Le Tigre]

Bullshit. 
 

Richmond Webb was an All-Pro LT for MIA in Smith’s 1993 16-sack season (age 31). 6’6 330 is comparable. 
 

I have more, if you wish to push the media paradigm 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Not sure what the media paradigm has to do with anything. I was simply showing some recent stats of players and saying there's a clear risk to giving $30M+ to a pass rusher entering his 30s. It's not that deep.

[|BlackJesus|]

33 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

Bullshit. 

 

Unfortunately, the data doesn't care about your opinion. 

 

 

 

[Le Tigre]

Lies..damn lies..and statistics. 
 

Put Bruce Smith in his prime against any modern day NFL lineman, and he would beat the living shit out of any of them. 
 

Stuff these fucking graphs. 

. 

[Jackie Treehorn]

8 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

Lies..damn lies..and statistics. 
 

Put Bruce Smith in his prime against any modern day NFL lineman, and he would beat the living shit out of any of them. 
 

Stuff these fucking graphs. 

. 

Totally agree about Bruce Smith but Trey isn’t anywhere close to him. 

[Le Tigre]

10 minutes ago, Jackie Treehorn said:

Totally agree about Bruce Smith but Trey isn’t anywhere close to him. 

That really isn’t the question. People like BJ automatically think that once a player hits the unholy age of 30, they are automatically done. 
 

The illustration of Bruce Smith and Reggie White defy this paradigm. So he piles a bunch of meaningless crap about weight sizes to press the point. 

[claptonrocks]

6 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

That really isn’t the question. People like BJ automatically think that once a player hits the unholy age of 30, they are automatically done. 
 

The illustration of Bruce Smith and Reggie White defy this paradigm. So he piles a bunch of meaningless crap about weight sizes to press the point. 

Trey is nowhere near the player Smith and Reggie were.

I don't agree about 30 being done but

are you getting the  Bengals paying for his past performances in the next two years or so or are they worried his production won't match the money going forward?

 

[Le Tigre]

5 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Trey is nowhere near the player Smith and Reggie were.

I don't agree about 30 being done but

are you getting the  Bengals paying for his past performances in the next two years or so or are they worried his production won't match the money going forward?

 

A 2-3 year extension is not that great a wager. He has increased his production each season since being here. Even if that production decreases by 2-3 sacks for the next 2-3 years, is this not a better investment than betting a draft pick can reach his floor in 2-3 years? 
 

 A shit defense needs every advantage it can get. 

[|BlackJesus|]

20 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

 People like BJ automatically think that once a player hits the unholy age of 30, they are automatically done. 

 

I don't think that. 

 

I wanted Trey extended, but I would only give him a 2 year, 50 mill extension (25 per). I would imagine he wants something like a 3 year, 105 mill extension (35 per).

 

To me, he's not worth that much.