5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

So the best case scenario is that he plays out of position on passing downs? I can live with that.  

No, the worst case. Floor is he brings to the team the incredible disruption he's already shown at A&M playing inside the tackle. Ceiling is he shows what he did at the Senior Bowl, and we get an elite DE who can exploit his Myles Garret level athleticism from that spot. 

 

But the floor offers us the thing we've been most sorely lacking since Geno left, which is disruption from inside. 

4 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

And you believe this organization is the one to turn the light on.  I am lacking in faith.  

Yes I do..

 

2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Bullshit...

It's a layer with huge upside.

He's ,21 yrs old

 

 

 

 

Betting on a guy who hasn't had production, and who showed he couldn't tackle, for a team that already couldn't tackle is exactly what gets you fired. Its another scenario of the Bengals thinking they are the smartest one in the room. 

RG3 liked it ...

 

So assuming Trey is still here, which first round pick is on the bench?

5 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

 

We wish. But if he busts, it will be the coach's fault. 

Allways a thought but this kid has all the intangibles to excel with technique trading..

Just now, MichaelWeston said:

 

Betting on a guy who hasn't had production, and who showed he couldn't tackle, for a team that already couldn't tackle is exactly what gets you fired. Its another scenario of the Bengals thinking they are the smartest one in the room. 

 

It gets you fired everywhere but Cincinnati 

9 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

We better..😎

Did a decent job in green bay

1 minute ago, Jason said:

So assuming Trey is still here, which first round pick is on the bench?

Rotational is the way now..

Depth with slot of snaps as the season goes on..

I said awhile back that the Bengals have a type when it comes to drafting a DE. 

 

You must be 6'5, 270 lbs, 34" long arms, and run a 4.6 40.

 

Mykel Williams was this and the only other guy who was = Stewart. With Mykel gone, that left Stewart as the pick. It's as simple as that. 

3 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

 

Betting on a guy who hasn't had production, and who showed he couldn't tackle, for a team that already couldn't tackle is exactly what gets you fired. Its another scenario of the Bengals thinking they are the smartest one in the room. 

He's 21...

Jeez

1 minute ago, BlackJesus said:

I said awhile back that the Bengals have a type when it comes to drafting a DE. 

 

You must be 6'5, 270 lbs, 34" long arms, and run a 4.6 40.

 

Mykel Williams was this and the only other guy who was = Stewart. With Mykel gone, that left Stewart as the pick. It's as simple as that. 

But they could have taken Jihaad or Harmon. Or Starks.

22 minutes ago, alleycat said:

He played the season at 285. He showed up at the combine at 267. I don't know what he weighed at the senior bowl, where he dominated, but would be curious to know. 

given the Sr Bowl and Combine weren’t too far apart (a month), I’d imagine he was closer to the 270 range. 

7 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

 

Betting on a guy who hasn't had production, and who showed he couldn't tackle, for a team that already couldn't tackle is exactly what gets you fired. Its another scenario of the Bengals thinking they are the smartest one in the room. 

 

It's the Dunning-Kruger effect in action. Incompetent people overestimating their abilities. 

This soft ass defense did need some aura tbh 😎 

 

4 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

He's 21...

Jeez

Settle down. I didn't say he would be fired, I said this is the kind of thing that gets you fired. 

The Sporting News had him at number 6 OVERALL. 😮

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-draft-2025-prospects-rankings-big-board/4dcf95eab4a6c2afd169210b

10 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Yes I do..

 

Based on what exactly? Irrational enthusiasm?  The guy was surrounded by NFL talent and barely produced.  Apparently the best case scenario is him lining up inside on passing downs.  

19 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

Have another beer, not going to happen. 

 

Tobin's clearly here until he chooses to retire.

 

Not really a judgment on this pick but I do have to wonder about adding that poor of a tackler to a soft defense.

The Bengals don't like doubles in Rd 1. This is either going to be a home run genius selection, or a bust. But I can at least respect swinging for the fences. 

 

If he had any sack production he's likely a top 3 pick. So the Bengals either got a mega steal or got fooled by traits again. 

11 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

 

Betting on a guy who hasn't had production, and who showed he couldn't tackle, for a team that already couldn't tackle is exactly what gets you fired. Its another scenario of the Bengals thinking they are the smartest one in the room. 

Bengals are the smartest ones ones in the Bengal room, always have been

1 minute ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Based on what exactly? Irrational enthusiasm?  The guy was surrounded by NFL talent and barely produced.  Apparently the best case scenario is him lining up inside on passing downs.  

You need to have someone explain floor and ceiling to you, because you clearly aren't understanding what I said. 

I really wish I could share the enthusiasm that many are feeling. All I see is a guy who looks good with his shirt off that only managed 1.5 sacks per year in college, while often playing inferior teams.

 

Doesn’t this sound too familiar? Physical freak, rare attributes, puzzling lack of production…don’t worry the Bengals will coach them up. Yikes. 
 

I hope the people showing excitement are correct. The Bengals really couldn’t afford to miss this year.

 

I will say that I’m very happy they addressed the defensive line. Not trying to shit on this pick but concerning would be my initial reaction.