Time to Revote!  I stupidly didn't set the prior poll to allow multiple selections, and everyone who voted before I caught it were not able to vote again.... so it's do-over time!

 

Okay boys and girls, it's that time of year again!  Pumkie has just asked ME (and a few other people) to help the team decide who the next two inductees in the Ring of Honor will be.

 

Just like last year, voting is weighted in favor of those with longer/older accounts. It used to be just a popularity contest, but the implied recency bias that this introduced, with those who played more recently or who had more national exposure, has been somewhat removed.

 

The email:

Quote

 

Amish:

 

We are excited to announce that voting has begun in The Official Bengals App for our 5th annual Ring of Honor tradition! We are proud of how this tradition has come to life over the past few years and need your help deciding the next Legends we will be inducting into the 2025 class.  To recognize your support as a Season Ticket Member, voting will be weighted by your member STREAK - the number of consecutive years you have been a member. Voting opens today and will close on Friday, June 6 at 11:59pm.

 

This means old farts like LT and me, who actually saw PB prowling the sidelines at Riverfront, will have our votes given preference over youngsters who think Chad was a veteran nominee.

 

 

I've added a poll.  Actual voting ends June 6th, our poll closes at midnight (ET) June 5th.

 

This is on the honor system - please vote for exactly TWO nominees, just like the actual ballot.
 

2024 Go-Bengals poll results:
Linky: https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/92829-bengals-2024-ring-of-honor-nomimees/

 

18: (*)Tim Krumrie
9: David Fulcher
8: (*)Corey Dillon
3: Lemar Parrish
2: Bob Trumpy
2: Reggie Williams
1: Jim Breech
1: James Brooks
1: Max Montoya
0: Cris Collinsworth
0: Dave Lapham

(*) = Enshrinee

 

2023 Go-Bengals poll results
Linky: https://forum.go-bengals.com/index.php?/topic/87834-2023-ring-of-honor-nominees/

 

16: Tim Krumrie
11: (*)Boomer Esiason
10: (*)Chad Johnson
8: David Fulcher
3: James Brooks
3: Corey Dillon
3: Dave Lapham
3: Max Montoya
2: Lemar Parrish
2: Reggie Williams
1: Cris Collinsworth
0: Jim Breech
0: Bob Trumpy

(*) = Enshrinee

 

So apparently, our track record shows that our third place finisher, plus one of the top two, end up getting into the Ring.

Get Parrish and Trumpy in before they die.

Had to go with Montoya & Parrish.  A couple others may be equally obvious choices but they're no-brainers and also among the oldest ones on the list.  Seems like they should be working their way forward from the 60's squads before getting into the debatable ones (Trumpy & Lapham fall into that category IMO).

 

2nd question needs more options

 

 

 

I went with James Brooks & Lemar Parrish.  😁✌️

my old comment was basically Lapham, and then i just chose the probably next odlest guy in trumpy..

 

get these dudes in quickly and efficiently..

I voted Parrish and Williams. 

20 hours ago, T-Dub said:

2nd question needs more options

 

 

You're right.

A.J. Green?

Too soon?

Really don't think so.

42 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said:

 

You're right.

 

Good job, but there's no option for not needing options.

8 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Good job, but there's no option for not needing options.

 

I gotchu.

37 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

A.J. Green?

Too soon?

Really don't think so.

 

Oh, there are easily 5-6 dudes we could add to that.  AJ is definitely on the short list IMO.

49 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said:

 

I gotchu.

 

I'm writing in my vote for pole dancers

 

2 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

I'm writing in my vote for pole dancers

 

 

FYI

🤔

FWIW, the households that share my seats also conducted a vote, and the results were all over the place. To help with tiebreaks, I asked everyone to list THREE names in 1st-2nd-3rd order. Whomever got the most top-2 votes would get in, with all sorts of tiebreakers (most total votes, then most 1st vs most 2nd vs most 3rd, and finally player age) to break the ties.

We picked Trumpy outright, and Parrish on tiebreak:

Player: 1st-2nd-3rd

TRUMPY: 1-2-0 (3 top-2 votes)

PARRISH: 1-0-1 (1 top-2 vote, 1st place vote, 2 total votes,1947)

Williams: 1-0-1 (1 top-2 vote, 1st place vote, 2 total votes, 1954)

Montoya: 1-0-0 (1 top-2 vote, 1st place vote, 1 total vote)

Lapham: 0-1-1 (1 top-2 vote, 2nd place vote, 2 total votes, 1952)

Breech: 0-1-1 (1 top-2 vote, 2nd place vote, 2 total votes, 1956)

So we voted for Trumpy and Parrish, who just happen to be the two senior guys on the ballot.

3 hours ago, Griever said:

🤔

They need to ask me.

Staying with the same original list of 17 players at some point would either run dry, or would result in those still on the ballot being passed over year after year. Also, making it 100% dependent on fan voting introduces bias. I would begin adding new names to the list, maybe add four at first then add another each year for a few years. Guys like AJ Green, Geno Adkins, Rodney Holman, Sam Wyche(!), or even Andrew Whitworth or Takeo Spikes. The point is, I believe there are many names deserving of consideration beyond the 7 that will remain after this years' voting. Further, I fervently believe that at this point fan voting should be deemphasized, allowing the team, players, vets, local long-term beat writers, and other enshrinees to weigh-in. Maybe even alternate... fans pick one player in odd years, "insiders" pick in even years. Or establish a minimum number of votes needed to be enshrined, and a lower minimum to remain on the ballot.

Bottom line - the process has reached a point where the ballot AND the voting need revamping.

On 5/28/2025 at 11:09 AM, AmishBengalFan said:

They need to ask me.

Staying with the same original list of 17 players at some point would either run dry, or would result in those still on the ballot being passed over year after year. Also, making it 100% dependent on fan voting introduces bias. I would begin adding new names to the list, maybe add four at first then add another each year for a few years. Guys like AJ Green, Geno Adkins, Rodney Holman, Sam Wyche(!), or even Andrew Whitworth or Takeo Spikes. The point is, I believe there are many names deserving of consideration beyond the 7 that will remain after this years' voting. Further, I fervently believe that at this point fan voting should be deemphasized, allowing the team, players, vets, local long-term beat writers, and other enshrinees to weigh-in. Maybe even alternate... fans pick one player in odd years, "insiders" pick in even years. Or establish a minimum number of votes needed to be enshrined, and a lower minimum to remain on the ballot.

Bottom line - the process has reached a point where the ballot AND the voting need revamping.

agreed, could they do a double vote?

vote for 20 guys (or however many) then narrow it down to 4-5 like a mini PFHOF vote set of finalists, then vote on those..

the top ones wouldnt likely get the main votes again, as the people voting for the other 15-16 guys who didnt make the finalists likely would swing the finalists vote various ways..

could be a good offseason activity during the dead times.. maybe do some on site voting, throw a bengals block party between PBS and GABP, have some guys on the list sign autographs, vote via ipads and SMS on site, get some artsists to come do art on site, a DJ or band for music, local food places,

this is almost too easy...

bengals, call me, you have my number.

^ bump

We are entering the final week of voting. If you have not voted yet, please hurry. There are three guys running neck-and-neck, plus two more who are just a couple of votes from being dangerous. Your vote will matter.

Poll closes at midnight ET this Thursday night.

Thanks to everyone who voted. Here's the final tally:

14 Lemar Parrish (1970-77) (b.1947)

11 David Fulcher (1986-92) (b.1964)

10 Bob Trumpy (1968-77) (b.1945)

10 Reggie Williams (1976-89) (b.1954)

8 Dave Lapham (1974-83) (b.1952)

3 Jim Breech (1980-92) (b.1956)

3 James Brooks (1984-91) (b.1958)

2 Max Montoya (1979-89) (b.1956)

2 Cris Collinsworth (1981-88) (b.1959)

For the ties, I've arbitrarily ranked them in order by oldest age