Got the upgrade done, theme options for the brand new software is limited, and now I am learning how to edit it and also trying to track down my grpahics for headers and backgrounds, etc.. i didnt know theyd be scrapped in the upgrade.. so stick with me, ill be getting this fine tuned and back to more normal look ASAP. as far as the sub forum being a large square block vs being a line item, no idea how to change that.. but i find it annoying..