Shortly after the contract dispute opened up i looked up the agency, LAA, Loyalty Above All, aside from being a stupid fucking name, it appears to be full of a circle of douchebags with little to no experience, with profiles using overloaded language like "help clients JK Dobbins and _____ create a brand and "online shopping malls for autographs"

online shopping malls......

so a shopify store for $29.99?

he said online shopping malls.

anyway..

They have made the list of footbal lclients harder to get to on the site, making none of the links to categories bring up the lists (unless its my browser at work) I could get to them earlier, but google had my back.

Dalvin Cook - Not in the NFL

James Cook - On Rookie deal, publicly demanding $15mil per year, team told him we arent negotiation extensions right now. Franchise tag is only $13.2

JK Dobbins - Injury riddled career, 3rd team in 3 years, on a prove it 2mil deal. after having 7 mil previous year and doing well... odd?

Darrelle Revis - hasnt been in the league for 6 years. possibly a merchandising only deal with with fanatics?

Derion kendrick - dunno who this is - a 6th round pick on a 1 year only deal.

Sam Kamara - UDFA for bears and now browns, did have 15 combined tackles last year.. so theres that.

Ramel Keyton - an UDFA who isnt in the league, waived Sept 29th of his rookie year with 1 catch, not in the league

Kaeris jackson - UDFA no longer in the league wavied by texans after UDFA signing

O'Cyrus Torrence - A real player 2nd round pick, still on bills. on rookie deal.

Josh Gordon - lol yes that one.. hasnt played in many years last deal with 100k with titans.

Jack Conley - UDFA for Pats, rookie, at least still in the league, $840k deal

Kris Mitchell - Undrafted, never been on a team.

Dayton Wade - Undrafted WR, Ravens, likely cut in camp.

Kaden Prather - 7th round WR for bills, rookie

Jacolby George - Undreafted WR for Panthers likely cut in camp

Frank Gore = lolololol, hasnt played in 5 years, looks like an autographs deal

Jon Garvin - 7th rounder linebacker rookie, teams or cut player

Malik Rutherford - undreafted, never in the nfl or NIL only dealings

Jamorie Flagg - never in league NIL dealings it seems

Keyone Jenkins - NIL only dealings still in college

Rara Thomas - NIL dealings went from Miss St to george to Troy.. constant downgrade of schools

Mandrell Desir - Freshman in college NIL dealings

Darryll Desir - NIL Only dealings

Malachi Toney - NIL college freshman

Lawayne McCoy - NIL only college sophmore

Dan Villari - NIL only QB turned TE for syracuse

Bear Alexander - NIL only, jr at oregon 3rd school in 3 years.

some cool names.. that dont play anymore.

basically has 6 clients who are real nfl players mostly. counting two 7th rounders who arent likely to be on rosters in a few months.

So James Cook, JK Dobbins, and Shamar Stewert.

an injury flyer player, Shamar and Cook with one good season and demandin to be the 3rd highest paid RB in the league.

this is whats guiding Shamar stewert.

lol

Born and raised in Suffern, NY, Zac started his first business at 18; a successful nightlife and event planning company that handled everything from birthday parties to Fortune 500 corporate events. He used this money to pay for school at the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor where he received his undergraduate degree in Sport Management as well as at the Zicklin School of Business – Baruch College where he received his Master’s in Marketing. Zac has been a certified NFLPA contract advisor since 2016, negotiating over $100 Million in contracts before his 30th birthday. He formed LAA on the principle of what has driven his success to date; LOYALTY to those that support and believe in him.

threw parties, "negotiated" 100 mil in contracts, which is all rookie deals and the 70 mil deal for which he saw 26million of before being cut 2 seasons later.

this guy has virtually no experience, no clients, and is giving terrible advice to get his clients name in headlines..

but you know.. the bengals are cheap or whatever (in a set dollar deal).

using his client to get media attention for himself, calling all podcasters and yelling at them for saying he is making stupid moves.

but mike brown or whatever....

Did Stewart change agents only after the Bengals decided to draft him with the 17th overall pick?

I think the answer is a big fat NO.

53 minutes ago, GoBengals said:

Shortly after the contract dispute opened up i looked up the agency, LAA, Loyalty Above All, aside from being a stupid fucking name, it appears to be full of a circle of douchebags with little to no experience, with profiles using overloaded language like "help clients JK Dobbins and _____ create a brand and "online shopping malls for autographs"

online shopping malls......

so a shopify store for $29.99?

he said online shopping malls.

anyway..

They have made the list of footbal lclients harder to get to on the site, making none of the links to categories bring up the lists (unless its my browser at work) I could get to them earlier, but google had my back.

Dalvin Cook - Not in the NFL

James Cook - On Rookie deal, publicly demanding $15mil per year, team told him we arent negotiation extensions right now. Franchise tag is only $13.2

JK Dobbins - Injury riddled career, 3rd team in 3 years, on a prove it 2mil deal. after having 7 mil previous year and doing well... odd?

Darrelle Revis - hasnt been in the league for 6 years. possibly a merchandising only deal with with fanatics?

Derion kendrick - dunno who this is - a 6th round pick on a 1 year only deal.

Sam Kamara - UDFA for bears and now browns, did have 15 combined tackles last year.. so theres that.

Ramel Keyton - an UDFA who isnt in the league, waived Sept 29th of his rookie year with 1 catch, not in the league

Kaeris jackson - UDFA no longer in the league wavied by texans after UDFA signing

O'Cyrus Torrence - A real player 2nd round pick, still on bills. on rookie deal.

Josh Gordon - lol yes that one.. hasnt played in many years last deal with 100k with titans.

Jack Conley - UDFA for Pats, rookie, at least still in the league, $840k deal

Kris Mitchell - Undrafted, never been on a team.

Dayton Wade - Undrafted WR, Ravens, likely cut in camp.

Kaden Prather - 7th round WR for bills, rookie

Jacolby George - Undreafted WR for Panthers likely cut in camp

Frank Gore = lolololol, hasnt played in 5 years, looks like an autographs deal

Jon Garvin - 7th rounder linebacker rookie, teams or cut player

Malik Rutherford - undreafted, never in the nfl or NIL only dealings

Jamorie Flagg - never in league NIL dealings it seems

Keyone Jenkins - NIL only dealings still in college

Rara Thomas - NIL dealings went from Miss St to george to Troy.. constant downgrade of schools

Mandrell Desir - Freshman in college NIL dealings

Darryll Desir - NIL Only dealings

Malachi Toney - NIL college freshman

Lawayne McCoy - NIL only college sophmore

Dan Villari - NIL only QB turned TE for syracuse

Bear Alexander - NIL only, jr at oregon 3rd school in 3 years.

some cool names.. that dont play anymore.

basically has 6 clients who are real nfl players mostly. counting two 7th rounders who arent likely to be on rosters in a few months.

So James Cook, JK Dobbins, and Shamar Stewert.

an injury flyer player, Shamar and Cook with one good season and demandin to be the 3rd highest paid RB in the league.

this is whats guiding Shamar stewert.

lol

Born and raised in Suffern, NY, Zac started his first business at 18; a successful nightlife and event planning company that handled everything from birthday parties to Fortune 500 corporate events. He used this money to pay for school at the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor where he received his undergraduate degree in Sport Management as well as at the Zicklin School of Business – Baruch College where he received his Master’s in Marketing. Zac has been a certified NFLPA contract advisor since 2016, negotiating over $100 Million in contracts before his 30th birthday. He formed LAA on the principle of what has driven his success to date; LOYALTY to those that support and believe in him.

threw parties, "negotiated" 100 mil in contracts, which is all rookie deals and the 70 mil deal for which he saw 26million of before being cut 2 seasons later.

this guy has virtually no experience, no clients, and is giving terrible advice to get his clients name in headlines..

but you know.. the bengals are cheap or whatever (in a set dollar deal).

using his client to get media attention for himself, calling all podcasters and yelling at them for saying he is making stupid moves.

but mike brown or whatever....

This is the natural outcome of a Texas Aggie and a bridge-&-tunnel NYC club promoter putting their heads together.

Half the NFL passed on this guy for a reason & it clearly was not anything to do with athleticism.

1 hour ago, GoBengals said:

Shortly after the contract dispute opened up i looked up the agency, LAA, Loyalty Above All, aside from being a stupid fucking name, it appears to be full of a circle of douchebags with little to no experience, with profiles using overloaded language like "help clients JK Dobbins and _____ create a brand and "online shopping malls for autographs"

online shopping malls......

so a shopify store for $29.99?

he said online shopping malls.

anyway..

They have made the list of footbal lclients harder to get to on the site, making none of the links to categories bring up the lists (unless its my browser at work) I could get to them earlier, but google had my back.

Dalvin Cook - Not in the NFL

James Cook - On Rookie deal, publicly demanding $15mil per year, team told him we arent negotiation extensions right now. Franchise tag is only $13.2

JK Dobbins - Injury riddled career, 3rd team in 3 years, on a prove it 2mil deal. after having 7 mil previous year and doing well... odd?

Darrelle Revis - hasnt been in the league for 6 years. possibly a merchandising only deal with with fanatics?

Derion kendrick - dunno who this is - a 6th round pick on a 1 year only deal.

Sam Kamara - UDFA for bears and now browns, did have 15 combined tackles last year.. so theres that.

Ramel Keyton - an UDFA who isnt in the league, waived Sept 29th of his rookie year with 1 catch, not in the league

Kaeris jackson - UDFA no longer in the league wavied by texans after UDFA signing

O'Cyrus Torrence - A real player 2nd round pick, still on bills. on rookie deal.

Josh Gordon - lol yes that one.. hasnt played in many years last deal with 100k with titans.

Jack Conley - UDFA for Pats, rookie, at least still in the league, $840k deal

Kris Mitchell - Undrafted, never been on a team.

Dayton Wade - Undrafted WR, Ravens, likely cut in camp.

Kaden Prather - 7th round WR for bills, rookie

Jacolby George - Undreafted WR for Panthers likely cut in camp

Frank Gore = lolololol, hasnt played in 5 years, looks like an autographs deal

Jon Garvin - 7th rounder linebacker rookie, teams or cut player

Malik Rutherford - undreafted, never in the nfl or NIL only dealings

Jamorie Flagg - never in league NIL dealings it seems

Keyone Jenkins - NIL only dealings still in college

Rara Thomas - NIL dealings went from Miss St to george to Troy.. constant downgrade of schools

Mandrell Desir - Freshman in college NIL dealings

Darryll Desir - NIL Only dealings

Malachi Toney - NIL college freshman

Lawayne McCoy - NIL only college sophmore

Dan Villari - NIL only QB turned TE for syracuse

Bear Alexander - NIL only, jr at oregon 3rd school in 3 years.

some cool names.. that dont play anymore.

basically has 6 clients who are real nfl players mostly. counting two 7th rounders who arent likely to be on rosters in a few months.

So James Cook, JK Dobbins, and Shamar Stewert.

an injury flyer player, Shamar and Cook with one good season and demandin to be the 3rd highest paid RB in the league.

this is whats guiding Shamar stewert.

lol

Born and raised in Suffern, NY, Zac started his first business at 18; a successful nightlife and event planning company that handled everything from birthday parties to Fortune 500 corporate events. He used this money to pay for school at the University of Michigan- Ann Arbor where he received his undergraduate degree in Sport Management as well as at the Zicklin School of Business – Baruch College where he received his Master’s in Marketing. Zac has been a certified NFLPA contract advisor since 2016, negotiating over $100 Million in contracts before his 30th birthday. He formed LAA on the principle of what has driven his success to date; LOYALTY to those that support and believe in him.

threw parties, "negotiated" 100 mil in contracts, which is all rookie deals and the 70 mil deal for which he saw 26million of before being cut 2 seasons later.

this guy has virtually no experience, no clients, and is giving terrible advice to get his clients name in headlines..

but you know.. the bengals are cheap or whatever (in a set dollar deal).

using his client to get media attention for himself, calling all podcasters and yelling at them for saying he is making stupid moves.

but mike brown or whatever....

Amazing research, Go.

This guy is a douch bag and Shemar is an asshole.

Getting some piss poor advice somewhere.

Yeah, Bengals knew who his agent was.

Would you prefer it if his agent was Mulugheta? Are the Poston brothers still around?

Yeah the agent is a turd, allegedly. I keep coming back to the logic being used by Stewart’s camp. Had he been drafted by a team who already used this sort of default language (supposedly a majority of them), he would have gladly accepted it and signed. But if the team didn’t already use that language, then he wouldn’t accept it. That seems a pretty weak argument to me. There was also no real reason outside of spite to refuse to sign the injury waiver to participate in practices. Mims signed it last year if Stewart is so worried about precedent.

The agent(s) can be seen on the phone and filming when Stewart was drafted.

Then it looks like 3 agents and his dad came with him the next day on his first visit to Cincy ... (Which seems odd, as usually it's just parents or a wife for that).

The agents also posed for the photos 😎, which again, seems a little unusual.

It was reported pre draft that his agent was a dick and had an aggressive style with teams for workouts.

So I would guess he's trying to make a name for himself as the next Jerry McGuire / Mulugheta.

But even with all that said and even if his Jersey Shore sleeze ball agents suck ass, why the fuck are the Bengals giving them ammunition by changing the language? Just delay this precedent until next year at this point. It's not a hill worth dying on.

The Bengals are also badly losing the PR battle on this ...

See the last line of his Wikipedia

He's now the only 1 left from Rd 1

I'm beginning to think the NFL should slot all drafted players contracts and cut out the negotiating. Get drafted #1? You get X for salary and X for a signing bonus. Rounds 1-3 get 4 year contracts , 4-7 get 3 years and teams can start on extensions in the last year. You can sign immediately after you're drafted or a week before training camp, makes no difference. Same amount of money either way.

Eh, maybe I'm frustrated.

Stewart is the only unsigned 2025 1st round pick left now.

Who was the las 1st round pick to sign lest year? Yeah, you got it...Amarius Mims.

If you think they're bad, you should see the morons negotiating for the other side.

Man... You guys are going all in on the cope this year.

How do we do zero vetting on the character of these guys?

14 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

Then it looks like 3 agents and his dad came with him the next day on his first visit to Cincy ... (Which seems odd, as usually it's just parents or a wife for that).

The agents also posed for the photos 😎, which again, seems a little unusual.

I think those clowns were on the recent Netflix doc "Trainwreck: Woodstock 1999"

sliding through shit outside the overflowing port-a-poopers.

1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

How do we do zero vetting on the character of these guys?

Couldn't be the lack of a standard NFL scouting department. Something-something luck, something-something Walmart.

My guess is the coaches get excited about some off-the-chart measurables and convince themselves they can fix him.

3 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

How do we do zero vetting on the character of these guys?

I crack on the front office as much as anyone here, but Shemar Stewart came out of college with absolutely no character concerns. He was known at Texas A&M as a guy who loved to practice, lived in the gym lifting weights (body is like solid granite). In the lead up to the draft he impressed in interviews with his football knowledge, seemed fully engaged all of the time. Pretty much the anti-Shedeur Sanders.

So has something changed since he got drafted? Maybe he should have chosen his representation a little better, maybe he has gotten bad advice since being drafted, etc. But there is zero reason to think Stewart is a character concern.

But there is zero reason at all to think Stewart is a character concern.

Well, he is an Aggie... But appreciate the info. All I heard was lack of technique, one move, overruns plays etc etc. Coachable stuff, but likely to need to work his way into a starting rotation. That aside I didn't hate the draft pick, but once again there's contract drama. Bad luck?

Florio compared the Bengals participation agreement to several other teams and the Bengals version had more loopholes the team could take advantage of. Bengals are saying they want Stewart to accept contract language on defaults that other teams have but the team won't use similar language to other teams when it comes to practicing while still unsigned.

Remember, the Bengals tried getting Mims to agree to the contract default language last year and dropped it when training camp started. Maybe they'll do the same this year with Stewart.

I don’t think our team has earned the right to make extra demands for contracts. To me we should do what we did in the past and if we ever had any frigging sustained success then move to more contract demands.

39 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

Florio compared the Bengals participation agreement to several other teams and the Bengals version had more loopholes the team could take advantage of. Bengals are saying they want Stewart to accept contract language on defaults that other teams have but the team won't use similar language to other teams when it comes to practicing while still unsigned.

Remember, the Bengals tried getting Mims to agree to the contract default language last year and dropped it when training camp started. Maybe they'll do the same this year with Stewart.

Yet Mims had no problem signing the very same participation agreement last year. And Knight also signed it this year. So I call BS on Florio who undoubtedly was fed that “information” by Stewart’s camp. It was a spite move, plain and simple. They talk about precedent as being important, but only when it suits THEM.

54 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Yet Mims had no problem signing the very same participation agreement last year. And Knight also signed it this year. So I call BS on Florio who undoubtedly was fed that “information” by Stewart’s camp. It was a spite move, plain and simple. They talk about precedent as being important, but only when it suits THEM.

Stewart's agents look like they would be stealing hubcaps off

cars if cars still had hubcaps.

How could Stewart get involved with nickel and dime 50's juvenile delinquent

throw backs like those?