That's a friendly deal. Hopefully he hits the incentives.

19 hours ago, texbengal said:

Not sure… guess because I’ve read it before?

But hey, I’m just not as football brilliant as you are. Congrats.

Yeah, last preseason, some random writer quoted a random analyst to the effect that he thought Rivers was a great value pick for the Bengals and had a bright future. Then the preseason games started. Rivers played 28 offensive snaps in preseason game 1, all at LT. He got abused and exposed. So the team sensibly moved him inside. His 73 snaps in the remaining 2 preseason games were all at RG.

In the regular season, Rivers got 475 snaps, with 6 at LG and the rest at RG.

17 hours ago, Griever said:

Is that Risner in high school?

17 hours ago, GoBengals said:

you just make this up or what?

you say this like he was drafted to play tackle and since he was "too slow" they conceded he can be a guard maybe..

he was drafted because he played absolutely everywhere in college, and many times tackles move inside at the next level and make solid guards, this happens every single draft, every single year. one of the most common practices for teams trying to build linemen when they have short term options starting.

he even took snaps at center in the senior bowl to exclamation point his versatility. so they drafted the player to see where he best fits, right, left, guard, backup tackle, backup center, and then fine tune his abilities and see how good of a player he can be at his best position.

but no sure yeah man he was "too slow to play tackle" .....

fuck.

even high draft picks can take a year or so to adapt to the nfl. let alone a guy you drafted to find him a role and then dig in in persuit of seeing how high his ceiling is at that one role.

if his ceiling is being a backup at 3-4 spots, thats about as good of a 5th round pick as you can make. if he can be a starter level player then you invest those 1-2 years into that growth and go with it.

there continues to not be enough starter ready good linemen in the entire league to start on each team let alone stock pile for depth..

so to blow off a player who obviously has a chance at being a starter at a position once given the ability to lock into focusing on growing the skills at that slot, is silly at best and delusional as to the marketplace at OL.

the mirage this fanbase continues to live in on how teams build rosters is this league is so frustrating..

like Quinn Meinerz from denver, was a third round comp pick, out of wisoncin-whitewater, so essentially a 4th round guy, did get snaps until week 9 when someone got hurt, was an average player, then grew into a two time AP all pro making 20mil a year...

a comp pick form wisconsin whitewater university. the entire league is made up of guys like this...

and no one in here is qualified to say they are nothing or going to be great after a rookie season of "next man up" snaps here or there...

its nonsense.

Do you hear yourself?

Rivers wasn't brought in to replace Cappa, he was the replacement for Trent Brown's spot on the roster. Bengals started him at LT in the preseason vs other team's backups. And they killed him so much that the team moved him inside. Sure, it's not unusual for college tackles to become NFL guards. Volson is another example. But other people doing it successfully tells us nothing about Rivers' ability to succeed at guard. As a guard, he was pretty terrible, ranking 78th of 79 graded guards in the league. He played 1 snap in the opener, didn't play week 2 when Burrow got hurt, then played a fair amount weeks 3 to 11, then sat on the bench until week 16. He played 7 pass blocking snaps after week 11. He got worse over the course of the season if you look at his PFF grades by game. But it was Browning and Flacco taking the hits. When Burrow returned, Rivers wasn't trusted to take snaps.

That is not the profile of a future starter. The idea that he's Risner's replacement in waiting is ridiculous. If Risner leaves next offseason, they won't hand the job to Rivers, they'll look at alternatives.

1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

Yeah, last preseason, some random writer quoted a random analyst to the effect that he thought Rivers was a great value pick for the Bengals and had a bright future. Then the preseason games started. Rivers played 28 offensive snaps in preseason game 1, all at LT. He got abused and exposed. So the team sensibly moved him inside. His 73 snaps in the remaining 2 preseason games were all at RG.

In the regular season, Rivers got 475 snaps, with 6 at LG and the rest at RG.

Is that Risner in high school?

Do you hear yourself?

Rivers wasn't brought in to replace Cappa, he was the replacement for Trent Brown's spot on the roster. Bengals started him at LT in the preseason vs other team's backups. And they killed him so much that the team moved him inside. Sure, it's not unusual for college tackles to become NFL guards. Volson is another example. But other people doing it successfully tells us nothing about Rivers' ability to succeed at guard. As a guard, he was pretty terrible, ranking 78th of 79 graded guards in the league. He played 1 snap in the opener, didn't play week 2 when Burrow got hurt, then played a fair amount weeks 3 to 11, then sat on the bench until week 16. He played 7 pass blocking snaps after week 11. He got worse over the course of the season if you look at his PFF grades by game. But it was Browning and Flacco taking the hits. When Burrow returned, Rivers wasn't trusted to take snaps.

That is not the profile of a future starter. The idea that he's Risner's replacement in waiting is ridiculous. If Risner leaves next offseason, they won't hand the job to Rivers, they'll look at alternatives.

If you think they won't hand the job to someone clearly incapable just because they or the coaches feel invested in them, or have some kind of warm fuzzies about the guy.. we must be watching different teams.

They just now finally let Volson walk & I don't think anyone would be shocked if they brought him back again.

On 3/3/2026 at 2:09 PM, sparky151 said:

Yeah, last preseason, some random writer quoted a random analyst to the effect that he thought Rivers was a great value pick for the Bengals and had a bright future. Then the preseason games started. Rivers played 28 offensive snaps in preseason game 1, all at LT. He got abused and exposed. So the team sensibly moved him inside. His 73 snaps in the remaining 2 preseason games were all at RG.

In the regular season, Rivers got 475 snaps, with 6 at LG and the rest at RG.

Is that Risner in high school?

Do you hear yourself?

Rivers wasn't brought in to replace Cappa, he was the replacement for Trent Brown's spot on the roster. Bengals started him at LT in the preseason vs other team's backups. And they killed him so much that the team moved him inside. Sure, it's not unusual for college tackles to become NFL guards. Volson is another example. But other people doing it successfully tells us nothing about Rivers' ability to succeed at guard. As a guard, he was pretty terrible, ranking 78th of 79 graded guards in the league. He played 1 snap in the opener, didn't play week 2 when Burrow got hurt, then played a fair amount weeks 3 to 11, then sat on the bench until week 16. He played 7 pass blocking snaps after week 11. He got worse over the course of the season if you look at his PFF grades by game. But it was Browning and Flacco taking the hits. When Burrow returned, Rivers wasn't trusted to take snaps.

That is not the profile of a future starter. The idea that he's Risner's replacement in waiting is ridiculous. If Risner leaves next offseason, they won't hand the job to Rivers, they'll look at alternatives.

you know risner was a tackle in college for all of his starts right?

peter skoronski was a tackle in college

joe thuney wsa a tackle in college

sam cosmi was a tackle in college

brett toth was a tackle in college

thats 1 third of the best guards in football we are tackle to guard converts when making the NFL move.

cody ford was the slotted rt backup

THE BENGALS DEPTH CHART LAST YEAR SHOWS RIVERS AS THE RG BACKUP AND CODY FORD AS THE BACKUP AT RT.

why was rivers the guy who stepped in when Patrick got hurt, if cody for was the RG backup?

rivers was the RG backup on the depth chart before the season started.

his last year in college he was moved to guard and played most snaps there.. so essentially from 2023 to 2024 being moved from tackle to guard.....

but we drafted him to be a RT backup...

you got it champ..

no way we drafted him for his versatility but with the plan being him playing guard as a goal.....

the only evidence i have is

• the pile of players who moved inside upon moving to the nfl

• his college progression and move into his senior year

• the bengals own depth chart when 2025 began.

• his current status and role

• where he played, based on the depth chart mentioned above.

• jalen rivers own words headed into the draft.

so i must be wrong. i must not be hearing myself say such wild things....

jalens quote prior to the draft:

Replying to Mr Go ⬆️

One of my all-time favorite Bengals was a tackle in college

On 3/6/2026 at 7:46 PM, GoBengals said:

you know risner was a tackle in college for all of his starts right?

peter skoronski was a tackle in college

joe thuney wsa a tackle in college

sam cosmi was a tackle in college

brett toth was a tackle in college

thats 1 third of the best guards in football we are tackle to guard converts when making the NFL move.

cody ford was the slotted rt backup

THE BENGALS DEPTH CHART LAST YEAR SHOWS RIVERS AS THE RG BACKUP AND CODY FORD AS THE BACKUP AT RT.

why was rivers the guy who stepped in when Patrick got hurt, if cody for was the RG backup?

rivers was the RG backup on the depth chart before the season started.

his last year in college he was moved to guard and played most snaps there.. so essentially from 2023 to 2024 being moved from tackle to guard.....

but we drafted him to be a RT backup...

you got it champ..

no way we drafted him for his versatility but with the plan being him playing guard as a goal.....

the only evidence i have is

• the pile of players who moved inside upon moving to the nfl

• his college progression and move into his senior year

• the bengals own depth chart when 2025 began.

• his current status and role

• where he played, based on the depth chart mentioned above.

• jalen rivers own words headed into the draft.

so i must be wrong. i must not be hearing myself say such wild things....

jalens quote prior to the draft:

You're still going on about this? Wow. The ability of other players to successfully transition from tackle to guard in the NFL says absolutely nothing about Rivers' chances of doing so. It's the equivalent of this syllogism>

1 A quarterback's most important job is to lead his team to a Super Bowl victory.

2 Eli Manning did so twice, while Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen have never done so

Therefore Eli Manning is a much better QB than Burrow, Jackson, or Allen.

On 3/7/2026 at 8:59 AM, High School Harry said:

Replying to Mr Go ⬆️

One of my all-time favorite Bengals was a tackle in college

Still remember Pete Johnson running in back of Montoya in SB and Hacksaw Reynolds blew it up.

Should have run in back of Munoz regardless.

Lost the game due to it.

Montoya was a good guard though .

4 hours ago, sparky151 said:

You're still going on about this? Wow. The ability of other players to successfully transition from tackle to guard in the NFL says absolutely nothing about Rivers' chances of doing so. It's the equivalent of this syllogism>

1 A quarterback's most important job is to lead his team to a Super Bowl victory.

2 Eli Manning did so twice, while Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen have never done so

Therefore Eli Manning is a much better QB than Burrow, Jackson, or Allen.

Maybe Eli actually was a better "leader" than those guys despite not being as good of a QB. Doesn't matter - the other guys are not done with their careers yet. There's enough time for all of them to win 2 SBs. This was just a weird thing to go on about anyways.

Giving Jalen Rivers time to develop as a RG is perfectly reasonable. Before the draft last year, he described himself as a "guard that can play tackle". He's better as a left guard though but that spot was taken. He was a 5th round pick for reasons - the main one being that he was not ready to be a starter yet.

11 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Still remember Pete Johnson running in back of Montoya in SB and Hacksaw Reynolds blew it up.

Should have run in back of Munoz regardless.

Lost the game due to it.

Montoya was a good guard though .

It was the right call at the right time.

Can't recall which old Bengal said it but he said "It was there".

They were expecting him to run behind Munoz.

HOWEVER... David Verser went into motion when he should not have,

not in the play, and drew the D to where Pete was supposed to run.

Really don't know why Kenny Anderson did not call a time out to regroup.

Max was perhaps the best guard the Bengals ever had.

Was an expert at holding and not getting caught.

Also originated spraying Pam non stick frying stuff on to the

black jerseys so D linemen could not get a grip or hand on them

because their hands slid off.

Was also said Max was the leader of that fantastic Bengals O line,

not Munoz, because Munoz was rather quiet and kept to himself.

6 hours ago, High School Harry said:

It was the right call at the right time.

Can't recall which old Bengal said it but he said "It was there".

They were expecting him to run behind Munoz.

HOWEVER... David Verser went into motion when he should not have,

not in the play, and drew the D to where Pete was supposed to run.

Really don't know why Kenny Anderson did not call a time out to regroup.

Max was perhaps the best guard the Bengals ever had.

Was an expert at holding and not getting caught.

Also originated spraying Pam non stick frying stuff on to the

black jerseys so D linemen could not get a grip or hand on them

because their hands slid off.

Was also said Max was the leader of that fantastic Bengals O line,

not Munoz, because Munoz was rather quiet and kept to himself.

Understood..good call by you.

Still would have run in back of Munoz regardless how their defense setup.

At least they'd have gone thru the best olineman in history.

Long time ago and now hopefully they can turn the corner into another run at it.