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[size=3][b]Take 2: Falcons vs. Bengals[/b][/size]
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Atlanta at Cincinnati Matchups
QB RB WR OL DL LB DB ST Coach Overall
Cin Cin Cin Cin Atl Atl Cin Atl Cin Cin



Earlier this week, our scouts filed their advance scouting report on this week's matchup between the Falcons and Bengals. Now they're back with a second look.

• The Bengals started their fifth different offensive line group in Week 7 and the Falcons were without two of their best defensive linemen in DE John Abraham (groin) and Rod Coleman (toe), yet both teams came away with a victory. C Eric Ghiaciuc and LT Andrew Whitworth are now entrenched as starters until C Rich Braham and LT Levi Jones return from injury -- which could be awhile.

Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux and DE Chauncey Davis replaced Coleman and Abraham, who has been ruled out for this game as well. In the run game, massive NT Grady Jackson will command interior double teams. He played an outstanding game last week and is more than Ghiaciuc can handle one-on-one. The Falcons also got starting MLB Edgerton Hartwell back last week to solidify their linebacking corps.

• As athletic and mobile as Michael Vick is, he takes far too many sacks. Vick's biggest problem is his lack pocket presence. The Bengals lack big-name pass rushers, but DEs Justin Smith and Robert Geathers are quietly putting together very impressive seasons, with six sacks apiece. Cincinnati will have some new wrinkles to its blitz packages to force Vick to make quick decisions. Atlanta will probably play this game without either of its starting guards, so Cincinnati may favor interior pressures -- although that presents the risk of losing contain on Vick.

• The Bengals have struggled on third downs, mostly due to their pass protection issues, but the addition of RB Chris Perry could help remedy those problems. Perry is a dual threat who is powerful as a runner, yet sure handed and reliable in the passing game. The Bengals should call more screens and quick passes to Perry, which would give Carson Palmer another weapon in the passing game and it should also slow down Atlanta's potent pass rushers. Perry had last week to knock off some of the rust after spending time on the PUP list and should be a valuable contributor this week.

• Before last week, Atlanta's red-zone offense has not been where it need it to be. As good as Atlanta's rushing game is overall, it's not a power rushing scheme. It's built on speed and misdirection. Warrick Dunn is a fine goal-line runner, but he isn't going to push a pile or drag tacklers like a much larger back. Also, the timing between Vick and Atlanta's receiving corps has been very inconsistent. These factors can cripple an offense in the red zone, although you never would have known it from last week's performance.

• This should be just the second game of the year that the Bengals have Chris Henry, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson -- their top three WRs -- all on the field together. There isn't a more dangerous threesome in the league. Falcons CB Jason Webster can be targeted with success. Whichever receiver draws Webster in coverage should be the direction that Palmer predominantly looks to. Webster cannot keep up with any of these three.

With Webster on the field, there isn't a lot of reason to challenge CB DeAngelo Hall, who is playing at a very high level. As good as Hall has been playing, wines hard exploited him on an inside vertical route and Cincinnati surely was taking notes. Marvin Lewis has yet to confirm that Henry will play this week, but we fully expect him to suit up, especially with the rash of injuries to the Bengals' receivers.

• Atlanta's passing game broke out last week, but it is too early to say that this is a strong passing team. The Falcons' woes are not all Vick's fault. He isn't the ideal throwing quarterback, but his receivers have dropped far too many easy passes and aren't particularly good route runners. The Falcons' pass protection is also very suspect.

To aid these areas of concern, Atlanta needs to incorporate TE Alge Crumpler into the passing game as it did last week. Crumpler caught three touchdowns last week and looks to be fully healthy from a shoulder injury that hampered him early in the season. He is by far Atlanta's most sure-handed receiver and the Bengals often struggle shutting down opposing tight ends. Vick erupted last week and the passing game could finally be coming to life.

• The Falcons' spread option run was very effective early in the season, but defenses are catching on as they watch more tape. Atlanta will use four weapons split out wide with a running back in backfield next to Vick. Vick either hands the ball to the back or keeps it himself against a spread-out defense. Defenses are responding by bringing extra defensive backs closer to line of scrimmage. These defensive backs can hang with Vick from an athletic standpoint in space. Before last week, Vick wasn't able capitalize as a passer against single coverage on the outside with seven or eight in the box.

• Many talk about what Vick cannot do well, but there is one thing he can do as well as any player in the game today: make a game-changing play. This is something that can never be forgotten when Atlanta's quarterback is on the field and he proved it last week against the stealers.
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Special Teams[/b]
Allen Rossum had an absolutely outstanding day against pissburgh last week and remains a very explosive, elusive and fast returner. Overall, the Falcons' special teams dominated the stealers' and these hidden yards were a major contributor to their victory. They also caught the stealers completely by surprise by recovering an onside kick that was executed very well.

Cincinnati's top two returners, Tab Perry and Antonio Chatman, are battling injuries and may not play this week. The Bengals' punter, Kyle Larson, has also done an outstanding job of pinning teams inside the 20-yard line.

Matchups
• Cincinnati RT Willie Anderson vs. Atlanta LDE Patrick Kerney
• Cincinnati WR Chad Johnson vs. Atlanta CB DeAngelo Hall
• Cincinnati WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh vs. Atlanta CB Jason Webster
• Atlanta TE Alge Crumpler vs. Cincinnati SS Kevin Kaesviharn
• Atlanta QB Michael Vick vs. Cincinnati head coach Marvin Lewis

Scouts' Edge
This is Cincinnati's third straight game against an NFC South team. This battle between 4-2 contenders features two of the most dynamic young quarterbacks in the game today. Somewhat uncharacteristically last week, the Bengals did a fine job of stopping the run and protecting Palmer while the Falcons excelled throwing the ball. These were considered weaknesses just one week ago and remain question marks.

Atlanta is dealing with multiple injuries and a suspension along the offensive and defensive lines, which will really test its depth. For two games in a row, the Bengals have not turned the ball over. They should have all of their offensive weapons back for this game and this offense is starting to show immediate signs of improvement. The Bengals will win another at home this week to stay atop the AFC North.
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Prediction: Bengals 27, Falcons 17[/b][/size]
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[size=7][quote name='EnglishBengal' post='373126' date='Oct 27 2006, 12:23 PM'][size=3][b]Take 2: Falcons vs. Bengals[/b][/size]
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By Scouts, Inc.
Atlanta at Cincinnati Matchups
QB RB WR OL DL LB DB ST Coach Overall
Cin Cin Cin Cin Atl Atl Cin Atl Cin Cin

Earlier this week, our scouts filed their advance scouting report on this week's matchup between the Falcons and Bengals. Now they're back with a second look.

• The Bengals started their fifth different offensive line group in Week 7 and the Falcons were without two of their best defensive linemen in DE John Abraham (groin) and Rod Coleman (toe), yet both teams came away with a victory. C Eric Ghiaciuc and LT Andrew Whitworth are now entrenched as starters until C Rich Braham and LT Levi Jones return from injury -- which could be awhile.

Falcons DT Jonathan Babineaux and DE Chauncey Davis replaced Coleman and Abraham, who has been ruled out for this game as well. In the run game, massive NT Grady Jackson will command interior double teams. He played an outstanding game last week and is more than Ghiaciuc can handle one-on-one. The Falcons also got starting MLB Edgerton Hartwell back last week to solidify their linebacking corps.

• As athletic and mobile as Michael Vick is, he takes far too many sacks. Vick's biggest problem is his lack pocket presence. The Bengals lack big-name pass rushers, but DEs Justin Smith and Robert Geathers are quietly putting together very impressive seasons, with six sacks apiece. Cincinnati will have some new wrinkles to its blitz packages to force Vick to make quick decisions. Atlanta will probably play this game without either of its starting guards, so Cincinnati may favor interior pressures -- although that presents the risk of losing contain on Vick.

• The Bengals have struggled on third downs, mostly due to their pass protection issues, but the addition of RB Chris Perry could help remedy those problems. Perry is a dual threat who is powerful as a runner, yet sure handed and reliable in the passing game. The Bengals should call more screens and quick passes to Perry, which would give Carson Palmer another weapon in the passing game and it should also slow down Atlanta's potent pass rushers. Perry had last week to knock off some of the rust after spending time on the PUP list and should be a valuable contributor this week.

• Before last week, Atlanta's red-zone offense has not been where it need it to be. As good as Atlanta's rushing game is overall, it's not a power rushing scheme. It's built on speed and misdirection. Warrick Dunn is a fine goal-line runner, but he isn't going to push a pile or drag tacklers like a much larger back. Also, the timing between Vick and Atlanta's receiving corps has been very inconsistent. These factors can cripple an offense in the red zone, although you never would have known it from last week's performance.

• This should be just the second game of the year that the Bengals have Chris Henry, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson -- their top three WRs -- all on the field together. There isn't a more dangerous threesome in the league. Falcons CB Jason Webster can be targeted with success. Whichever receiver draws Webster in coverage should be the direction that Palmer predominantly looks to. Webster cannot keep up with any of these three.

With Webster on the field, there isn't a lot of reason to challenge CB DeAngelo Hall, who is playing at a very high level. As good as Hall has been playing, wines hard exploited him on an inside vertical route and Cincinnati surely was taking notes. Marvin Lewis has yet to confirm that Henry will play this week, but we fully expect him to suit up, especially with the rash of injuries to the Bengals' receivers.

• Atlanta's passing game broke out last week, but it is too early to say that this is a strong passing team. The Falcons' woes are not all Vick's fault. He isn't the ideal throwing quarterback, but his receivers have dropped far too many easy passes and aren't particularly good route runners. The Falcons' pass protection is also very suspect.

To aid these areas of concern, Atlanta needs to incorporate TE Alge Crumpler into the passing game as it did last week. Crumpler caught three touchdowns last week and looks to be fully healthy from a shoulder injury that hampered him early in the season. He is by far Atlanta's most sure-handed receiver and the Bengals often struggle shutting down opposing tight ends. Vick erupted last week and the passing game could finally be coming to life.

• The Falcons' spread option run was very effective early in the season, but defenses are catching on as they watch more tape. Atlanta will use four weapons split out wide with a running back in backfield next to Vick. Vick either hands the ball to the back or keeps it himself against a spread-out defense. Defenses are responding by bringing extra defensive backs closer to line of scrimmage. These defensive backs can hang with Vick from an athletic standpoint in space. Before last week, Vick wasn't able capitalize as a passer against single coverage on the outside with seven or eight in the box.

• Many talk about what Vick cannot do well, but there is one thing he can do as well as any player in the game today: make a game-changing play. This is something that can never be forgotten when Atlanta's quarterback is on the field and he proved it last week against the stealers.
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Special Teams[/b]
Allen Rossum had an absolutely outstanding day against pissburgh last week and remains a very explosive, elusive and fast returner. Overall, the Falcons' special teams dominated the stealers' and these hidden yards were a major contributor to their victory. They also caught the stealers completely by surprise by recovering an onside kick that was executed very well.

Cincinnati's top two returners, Tab Perry and Antonio Chatman, are battling injuries and may not play this week. The Bengals' punter, Kyle Larson, has also done an outstanding job of pinning teams inside the 20-yard line.

Matchups
• Cincinnati RT Willie Anderson vs. Atlanta LDE Patrick Kerney
• Cincinnati WR Chad Johnson vs. Atlanta CB DeAngelo Hall
• Cincinnati WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh vs. Atlanta CB Jason Webster
• Atlanta TE Alge Crumpler vs. Cincinnati SS Kevin Kaesviharn
• Atlanta QB Michael Vick vs. Cincinnati head coach Marvin Lewis

Scouts' Edge
This is Cincinnati's third straight game against an NFC South team. This battle between 4-2 contenders features two of the most dynamic young quarterbacks in the game today. Somewhat uncharacteristically last week, the Bengals did a fine job of stopping the run and protecting Palmer while the Falcons excelled throwing the ball. These were considered weaknesses just one week ago and remain question marks.

Atlanta is dealing with multiple injuries and a suspension along the offensive and defensive lines, which will really test its depth. For two games in a row, the Bengals have not turned the ball over. They should have all of their offensive weapons back for this game and this offense is starting to show immediate signs of improvement. The Bengals will win another at home this week to stay atop the AFC North.
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Prediction: Bengals 27, Falcons 17[/b][/size][/quote]



[b][size=7]WHO MUTHA F-IN DEY!!!!!!!!!!!![/size][/b]
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[quote name='byrdo_ou' post='373146' date='Oct 27 2006, 12:08 PM'][size=7]
[b][size=7]WHO MUTHA F-IN DEY!!!!!!!!!!!![/size][/b][/quote]
What's with the massive writing, no need for it. I'm getting a headache from looking at it and my finger's doing unecessary overtime on the scroll bar. :thumbsdown:
Keep your writing to a sensible size in future.

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[quote]This should be just the second game of the year that the Bengals have Chris Henry, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson -- their top three WRs -- all on the field together. There isn't a more dangerous threesome in the league. Falcons CB Jason Webster can be targeted with success. Whichever receiver draws Webster in coverage should be the direction that Palmer predominantly looks to. Webster cannot keep up with any of these three.

With Webster on the field, there isn't a lot of reason to challenge CB DeAngelo Hall, who is playing at a very high level. As good as Hall has been playing, wines hard exploited him on an inside vertical route and Cincinnati surely was taking notes. Marvin Lewis has yet to confirm that Henry will play this week, but we fully expect him to suit up, especially with the rash of injuries to the Bengals' receivers.[/quote]

This part is key, Jason Webster is the worst starting cb in the NFL, he made the stealers mediocore recievers look like pro bowlers last week, guys like Nate Washington, Santonio Holmes, and Cedric Wilson all had big catches on Webster. TJ should have a monster game against this chump and if they put him on Henry they might as well just give us 6 points. I know Chad is doing alot of talking with D Fall, but I think Webster is the weak link in that secondary and if they leave him one-on-one with any of our wr's we must take advantage of that.

Robert Geathers is another guy who I think will have a huge game if can stay discplined and not chase after Vick. Vick is unlike any other qb in the league, you must keep containment on him or he will burn you. Geathers has shown that he has the ability to get after qb's this year, all year long he's been putting pressure on qb's but this game will be different because Vick has the ability to simply out run Geathers if he tries chasing him down. Geathers must keep contain make sure Vick doesn't get to the outside.

This should be a win for us if we can keep Vick in the pocket.
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