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  2. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Rick, as a disabled retired veteran of the US Navy, I understand your point of view. However, let me interject something... Many people are upset that NFL players (amongst other sports athletes) are not standing during the national anthem. They say that it's a sign of major disrespect to veterans, especially the ones who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Indulge me if you please... The "Golden Generation", the ones everyone refers to as the saviors of the American way, did indeed fight against the tyrants attempts at world oppression from Germany, Japan, Italy, and a small smattering of others. When the U.S. entered World War II, Jim Crow segregation had permeated every aspect of American society. When black men volunteered for duty or were drafted, they were assigned to segregated divisions and often given combat support roles, such as cook, quartermaster and grave-digging duty. According to British personnel in the BEF, meals in the US Army were served with the white servicemen being served in one line and the black servicemen and officers in another. Because of black protests against the Army's treatment of its black soldiers, military leadership began to attempt to address the issue beginning in 1943, but segregation in the armed forces remained official policy until 1948. With the exception of 18 female African-American nurses who had served in World War I, the Army Nurses CorpArmyAaaa, established in 1901, remained white until 1941, when pressure from the National Association of Colored Graduate Nurses, and Eleanor Roosevelt , caused the Army to admit black nurses. A quota of 48 nurses was set, and the women were segregated from white nurses and white soldiers for much of the war. Eventually more black nurses enlisted. They were assigned to care for black soldiers, and served in the China-Burma-India theater, Australia, New Guinea, Liberia, England and the Philippines. So, besides the history lesson, my point is this; Black men and women volunteered to serve to fight world oppression when they couldn't escape racial suppression back home. You and I fought for the rights of ALL citizens to protest, and these black men and women, and ANYONE else who cares about people of color has the right and should be supported for doing so. I stand with them now, although I didn't at first, because I didn't take the time to walk in their shoes. It's not about respect for our vets and America, it's about the lack of respect and equality for people who volunteered to defend this country that won't treat them as equals. Just my $.02, and I'll move this thread to J & D.
  3. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Feeling like this might be a better place for this...
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  5. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    That isn't a protest. Its a Browns circle jerk. Fuck the Browns.
  6. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Just me, but I plan to protest by jeering and booing every fucking Clown player on the field and cheering as loud as I can every time a Clown gets his ass knocked off in the game. I will also pledge make a donation to the board for each Browns defeat by the Bengals. Fuck the Browns.
  7. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    I say boycott this message board!
  8. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    These guys are literally killing themselves getting concussed every Sunday, and the thing that makes you want to boycott is them kneeling during the anthem? Wife beaters get a slap on the wrist, but this is just too much? "Politics should never get in the way of disrespecting America" Ummm, America should be worthy of respect. You can't force someone to respect a country. "Subscribe to my particular breed of nationalism or suffer!" seems to be your rallying cry... Bullshit. You want to threaten a young man's livelihood if he does not conform to your narrow viewpoint. I can't think of anything more un-american. You love a flag and an anthem more than the freedoms those things represent.
  9. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Here's a picture of how much I care that athletes protest peacefully: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  10. When I served in the Navy, I stood at attention at taps when outside, when the colors went by, before movies, games, etc. It was/is respecting our country and the men and women who fought for our freedoms. Politics should never get in the way of disrespecting America. You can make your point in other ways. I stopped watching ESPN last year. I stopped watching all NFL games with the exception of the Bengals. My plan is to stop watching the Bengals if they do the same thing. I will then only listen to them on the radio. Enclosed are a few pictures of me placing a flower on a grave of a young man from Ohio who died during the Normandy Invasion in Normandy, France at our American graveyard. It was very humbling to see the many graves of the American men and women who died during the invasion.
  11. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    How exactly would Hooky like them to protest? What would make Hooky comfortable with it?
  12. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    But the starting a discussion thing is crap. People are aware, people are talking. This is just to draw attention to themselves and it backfired on Kaepernick. Nobody wants a mediocre QB that's bringing a circus with him.
  13. The Speed Limit Poll

    It's a phone GPS app, I use it all the time here in the DC area because it will reroute my route based on traffic finding me the quickest way to get from point A to point B.
  14. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    The whole thing started with Kapernick which is what he was talking about, if others are taking a larger issue then by all means....
  15. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Michael Bennett's recent protest wasn't about police brutality. He cited Charlottesville. I don't know what the Browns were praying about. Which is usually after the game.
  16. I think the issue with Tate is that he wasn't a big threat to take a kick to the house. He was typically sure handed and was always good for a couple nice 40-ish yard returns per season, but that's about the extent of it. He had 0 KR TDs in 174 tries here and 1 PR TD his first year in stripes with 179 total attempts. Not saying TDs are the only way to be a good return man as there are some quality guys in the league that don't rack up touchdowns themselves, but Tate didn't really seem to have the long returns in him and was more the "hey we're going to have OK field position most of the time" kind of guy. I wasn't the biggest fan of Tate but he definitely could have been worse. I like Erickson so we'll see where he takes us. He seems to have more big play capabilities than Tate but I don't like that he fumbled 3 times last year on punt returns even though he had 0 on kickoffs.
  17. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    No, it is to raise awareness about police brutality against minorities that as a percentage of population is much much larger than for anyone else. Racism is a part of that, but the protest is pretty specific. And just like any protest it forces people to talk about the issue which is how those things get addressed. It's supposed to make you uncomfortable.
  18. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    To raise awareness that there is racism in America? No shit. I think everybody is aware. What is this going to do about it?
  19. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    "Gosh darnit I wish these rootin' tootin' colored folk would learn to protest peacefully!" *people kneel* "NOT LIKE THAT!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"
  20. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    I personally think it's a dumb way to send a message and fairly disrespectful but if that is how they want to do it, so be it. No need to get worked up over it but if it does offend you you don't have to watch. I can't remember the last time I watched the anthem anyway
  21. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    I personally think it's a dumb way to send a message and fairly disrespectful but if that is how they want to do it, so be it. No need to get worked up over it but if it does offend you you don't have to watch. I can't remember the last time I watched the anthem anyway
  22. About the only good thing you could say about Tate though was he didn't fumble. I don't recall many times he changed the game with a great return. I can't say Erickson will be any better yet but he looks better so far.
  23. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    Rick are you even aware why this is going on?
  24. Inequality and the rise of Authoritarianism

    You have more faith in the idea of Moderate Republicans than I do.
  25. Boycott Both Bengals vs. Browns Games

    That's a bad example because you're not expected to by an organization you work for. But I'm on your side as to not being offended. I don't care what they do during the anthem. Marshawn Lynch just got addressed for doing it. He just said that he's been doing it occasionally his whole career for no particular reason. And that's fine. My point is that I don't care what they do and why. I just hate my football news getting cluttered with all of the political stuff because some players want some limelight. But I don't like to sort through any extracurricular player stuff.
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