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Why he didnt start with simpler coverages and got more complex as the defense learned the system is beyond me.

The Hall of Marketability Modern NFL is sports entertainment, Goodell basically strangled whatever respectability it had right out of it while the likes of Jones, Kraft, Rooney etc cheered him on. The other owners hate Mike because he's not a giant piece of shit like the rest of them. A sanctimonious arrogant failson, but not a scumbag.

Personally I don't hate Stewart at all & think he may be a really good DE.. 2-3 years from now. What I hate is drafting a project like that during what should be a (rapidly closing) Super Bowl window. They needed immediate, big-time defensive help. Not "potential". I hate the lack of urgency. I hate that they're trying to sell he & Murphy as starters based on a few halfway decent games against dogshit opponents. Hate them trying to gas up players that everyone knows are bad. Hate the arrogant messaging where the fans are too stupid to recognize their Tremendous Minds after a losing season. Hate how their excuses are wearing thin. Stewart will probably be alright though, one day. Good for him.

First round picks will be announced by this guy (?) :

Tobin quote: “We have resources to attack the offseason in a big way, and we want to do that in terms of how we’re going to do that…how we’re going to allocate our resources He talks like Kamala Harris...we want to do that in terms of how we are going to do that? I suppose we should remain hopeful that this years attack plan is with a pit bull and not a minature poodle

I wish Big Willie a long, healthy, and happy life post-transplant.

Wasn't the complaints about this that the players love the dietician(s) but they are only there 3 out of 5 days. Some complaints about the food (maybe that happens the other 2 days) and the cafeteria is closed at 5 pm or something like that, so you can't get stuff if you stay late. Anyways, they hired the lady that everyone liked at the end of July. That was after that lest set of report cards where they were given the bad grade for the dietician. I have no idea if that fixed or improved their grade on that aspect. Here's the google AI overview from a simple search that none of you guys appear to have done: If you want to be creepy, here's her Instagram (it's not hard to find): https://www.instagram.com/langfordsportrd/?hl=en She's also a CSSD according to the Butler page: https://butlersports.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/staff/lindsay-langford/234 with a master's degree. Maybe the need to get her an assistant or two but they did make changes after that last report card. They were also supposedly planning to implement a childcare program for home games during the 2025 season. Treatment of Families: Players previously reported that the team provided little to no support for families, with some describing it as "almost disrespectful". In response to being the only team to receive an "F-" in this category, plans are in place to implement childcare for home games for the 2025 season. Stadium Infrastructure: The team is starting a $470 million renovation project focusing on infrastructure and accessibility improvements. I know why the media people are doing it (clicks to drive ratings / conversations) but why are you guys bitching about them without the new report card information. Wait until it all gets leaked - then bitch. Right now it's a waste of time since they at least addressed some of the concerns and are putting more effort into addressing the others. Just like they did after the 2024 report card where their locker rooms and exercise facilities were rated so low. They turned those around to be good grades. It's probably going to take until the proposed renovations are funded and completed before they fix all of the family issues. They currently don't have a giant area for players to meet their families at which was one of the complaints. Hopefully that's being worked into the new team Headquarters and Training Complex. Here are some of the proposed plans: Paycor Stadium Comprehensive Renovation Plan | MSA DesignLocation Cincinnati, Ohio Client Hamilton Countyhttps://cms2.revize.com/revize/hamiltoncountyoh/Documents/Government/Departments/Stadia%20and%20Parking/Paycor%20Stadium/Renovation_of_Paycor_Stadium.pdf

But we want to know who the 17th guy is so we can take him in round 2.

We hate to let good players leave? Anyone tell that to Jessie Bates? I think tag and trade could happen but I also wont be surprised if they tag him and don't get what they are asking for in a trade and end up keeping him.

Fun Fact: The "rocket scientist" who ran on to the field had more yards rushing than the New England Patriots.

SB mornings always take me back to that Sunday in 1989 Miami. Sitting on a post-rain front porch of a restored art-deco hotel in South Beach…having coffee and looking at the ocean. No news of Stanley Wilson yet…just the warmth of the air/coffee, and the music of the waves. The rest of the day was a mixture of exultation and suck…but I would not trade it for anything

They not only need to spend it, they need to spend it on the right guys.

Actually...there is an "official sponsor"

You wont replace a player as good as Trey. they will have to find pass rush in other ways. Maybe in time it comes but it isnt happening right away.

Sure they are. Trey is no longer a Bengal, and that makes the Bengals worse. They didn't automatically get $35M worth of defense in return. That's all in our imaginations at this point. They have to actually go out and sign those people. Until that happens all they've done is let the best player on their defense walk. But hey, they may get one of those priceless late 3rd round comp picks next year, if they don't sign any FA's worth a damn.

Yeah, last preseason, some random writer quoted a random analyst to the effect that he thought Rivers was a great value pick for the Bengals and had a bright future. Then the preseason games started. Rivers played 28 offensive snaps in preseason game 1, all at LT. He got abused and exposed. So the team sensibly moved him inside. His 73 snaps in the remaining 2 preseason games were all at RG. In the regular season, Rivers got 475 snaps, with 6 at LG and the rest at RG. Is that Risner in high school? Do you hear yourself? Rivers wasn't brought in to replace Cappa, he was the replacement for Trent Brown's spot on the roster. Bengals started him at LT in the preseason vs other team's backups. And they killed him so much that the team moved him inside. Sure, it's not unusual for college tackles to become NFL guards. Volson is another example. But other people doing it successfully tells us nothing about Rivers' ability to succeed at guard. As a guard, he was pretty terrible, ranking 78th of 79 graded guards in the league. He played 1 snap in the opener, didn't play week 2 when Burrow got hurt, then played a fair amount weeks 3 to 11, then sat on the bench until week 16. He played 7 pass blocking snaps after week 11. He got worse over the course of the season if you look at his PFF grades by game. But it was Browning and Flacco taking the hits. When Burrow returned, Rivers wasn't trusted to take snaps. That is not the profile of a future starter. The idea that he's Risner's replacement in waiting is ridiculous. If Risner leaves next offseason, they won't hand the job to Rivers, they'll look at alternatives.

So does this mean we'll trade up to get him?

man this fanbase sucks dick. this place really isnt worth coming to at this point.. just stupid fucking crybaby bullshit day after day after day... absolutely a pathetic ability to even read and comprehend data. delusional to what any other team in the nfl does. the entire league is riddled with TERRIBLE overpriced contracts thats teams eat shit to get rid of and take money into dead void years and shit themselves.. sitting here like only the bengals miss on signings is fucking foolish and a dumb fucking thoguht process. i cannot imagine being this fucking stupid. jesus fucking christ what the fuck is wrong with you?

One year is kind of lame, I was hoping it would be a little longer. Guess that leaves them open to draft another G

Big hopes for him. Such a talented player. Would be a huge bonus if he contributes.

didnt they try that last year (test the market) and it bit them in the ass? just think if they would have simply folded the tents early in the offseason and gave Trey all he asked for without a question, they would have saved money , and had him signed for multi years without all the drama. and came out looking like heros. instead they hem and haw around while nickel and diming him and let other teams throw stupid money around at their DEs , and reset the DE pay scale to where they end up in a pissing match with Trey and still have to pay him more while he misses the entire TC. honestly i dont know what to do with trey this year. he is an effort guy , produced very well before he got hurt , and the defense folded without him are they a top 10 def with Trey ,? nope but they are a bottom 30s defense without him.

what i grow tired of is , every offseason seems to be controlled by the potential of future compensation picks if we lose a decent payer. what i've observed in the majority of the time. player x performs well, and we wont pay him anywhere close what he'll get else where. (that happens and i do understand that is does) so we lose that player then dont sign anyone near the quality of that player ,so we can get the comp pick then the nfl jakes us with a 6th or 7th while give the max to their favorite teams then most draft picks dont pan out. but we keep them and proudly announce, that 75% of our draft picks are still on our team, to show we have a top notch draft and player evaluation system . to me it feels more like they stay here cause we'll keep them while anyone with talent we'll low ball and act surprised when they go elsewhere .

We really need Love, Tate, Tyson and Lemon to just blow the doors off the combine tests. Maybe someone like Boston or Concepcion can run their way into the conversation too. Not necessarily for us, but to give others some options and for possible targets for others to trade-up for if all of the elite defenders are gone by 10.

I know your a fanatic about Liverpool.. I applaud that. The terminal that carries the ferry cross the Mersey River is now named Gerry Marsden.. Fitting .

Yeah there is that. Different offenses anymore—especially with sets/motions/etc. I guess I just wax nostalgically for the days when a Mel Blount/Lester Hayes/even Lamar Parrish…would knock a receiver on their backsides before they could get two steps forward. Different time

Tobin speak is hilarious. He might as well have said "The high picks I wasted on DT's will still be thrown out on the field until thier contracts expire".

Someone HAS to fall, there are only nine picks before we get on the clock. Someone significant will be sitting there, 100%.

He deserves NFL man of the year

As compared to who? Stewart and Myles Murphy? Think I prefer "has-been" to "never-been"

Hammond Eggs seems to be a popular name among other NFCN fans.

He's coming off a concussion/neck injury that sent him to IR and had already missed time to some OCD/mental health stuff. Dude should probably hang it up and go enjoy the rest of his life. Much as I'd like to see it IDK if Mims has taken a snap at LT. Even if OBjr wasn't an $8M dead cap hit I don't think there's any intention of replacing him, not the way they keep gassing him up. I guess $13M in salary isn't too bad for a half-ass decent tackle but that signing bonus, oof.. $31M as guarantee.. that's a 4-time Pro Bowl RT signing bonus they're paying him to go struggle at LT. Considering they thought he could make the switch and are still trying to convince everyone else.. Mims is probably good where he is, on 2nd thought. They'd never admit they were wrong and move him back, so... the minds.. they're too tremendous!!

With Wyatt Teller leaving the Browns, that should push down Risner's asking price imo Or we could just see if Teller wants to come here.

It's not how much you make, it's how much you keep.

Hey if y'all are happy with the Oren Burks and TJ Slaton leftovers in free agency then sure.. Fuck those whiny, entitled, starter-quality little bitches! Let them eat sign with a real NFL team! We'll be just fine riding the 9-8 line with some REAL pros that don't care about accepting less! Because no one else would pay them starter money! Go team!!

Unless they've got another DE lined up in free agency that's capable of posting double-digit sacks, I'd be trying to sign him to a one year deal. I'm sure they can get him for less than the tag number, they've got loads of cap space, and they've got no one else worth mentioning at the position. Easy enough to talk about "moving on" until the alternative is Stewart out there tackling the ref & running the wrong direction.

As I recall.. he was supposed to back up Rankins, who got squirrelpox & almost died until he went back to Texas and resumed playing like a pro.. but that made Jenkins the starter, 10/10 tremendous plan, great job everyone, but then he got hurt which is totally unheard of for a midround rookie unexpectedly starting at DT, just bad luck all around and no on is responsible for any of it.. Except, except.. We hear Jenkins is in the doghouse, which is reserved for one person at a time and one only & everything must be their fault, exclusively. Very healthy organization, really turning that defense around. Can't wait to find out who is responsible for everything that goes wrong next. BJ Hill is now the best proven defensive lineman signed to the roster, and it's no knock on him being a decent enough pro to say that's a problem for the defense. If everyone else on the DL was around his level or better they might have a chance, but they're not. He's the only trustworthy starter of the bunch. I would suggest instead of kicking rocks and moaning about how nobody wants to pway for the po widdle cibinabi bingos.. sniffle.. they hit the ground running in FA and make the case that this team is a credible defense away from a Super Bowl contender and they're ready to accept FA's cost what they cost & spend some of that sweet, sweet guaranteed ever-increasing ad revenue instead of finding couch cushions to hide it under. unless they're just fine with how things are & have given up, which seems to be closer to the truth.

Kinda suprrised he's still hanging around these parts. Would have thought he'd head back to somewhere more familiar to him.

Agree that Conway mostly sucks and I have never thought highly of her work. Chase Brown is under contract for at least another year, but an extension is possible. They have done so in the past at that position with Mixon, Gio, and Rudi. Personally I would prefer to keep Brown. He fits our offense well and has improved each year.

refreshing...nothing makes me love sports like a People e-magazine article about joe burrows hair mostly filled with social media quotes from people who do things like comment on social media about football players hair... someone gets paid money and sent on trips to be the Sports + Style writer for People. this is right there with the asian kid who makes millions on youtube opening toys... im going to go reevaluate my life choices.

They can afford to pay the OL. Let's not start with the poor-mouthing again when they're $50M-plus under the cap and could probably double that with contract restructuring. They're about to pay OBjr north of $20M to be a very average LT, that kinda sucks but it's thr nature of FA. Obviously it'd be ideal to run out 22 Bengals draft picks but that's not how it works for anyone. When a team whiffs on a bunch of picks then FA is what remains.. or making peace with a subpar roster. "Competitive". Put simply I'll accept this "can't afford xyz player" argument when they get within spitting distance of the salary cap. Right now they can afford Risner and half a defense, which, coincidentally, lucky for them, is exactly what they need. Rolling over the max $ allowed & hanging it all on draft picks is how we end up starting a draft thread in October again.

There’s nothing at all wrong with Chase Brown in this offense…no reason to go looking for a replacement, IMO. Just look to build depth. Maybe find a younger version of Semaj. Other than that, I’d leave it alone.

RAIDERS Fernando Mendoza QB JETS Arvell Reese LB/EDGE CARDS Spencer Fano OT TITANS Francis Mauigoa OT GIANTS Reuben Bain DL BROWNS Jeremiyah Love RB COMMANDERS Jordyn Tyson WR SAINTS Carnell Tate WR CHEIFS David Bailey Edge BENGALS Caleb Downs DB

"Rookie"- Ray Lewis

And the Very Sad part, they were established 8 years after the Bengals. They really should have 3 Superbowls if it were not for a bonehead call at the goal line.

Well that Seahawks D is 100% polar opposite to ours. I think I read the the Pats LT Campbell gave up 12 pressures? Yikes, that is Bobby Hart country.

Like others, I would prefer some juice up front, or a chess piece like Downs. But I’m a big Sonny Styles fan too. I know the Bengals invested pretty heavily at LB last year but I’m not sure either guy is the answer as a FT starter. Speaking of, I could see Carter as a good nickel cover LB type and Knight as a 2-down guy who can blitz on 3rd down. But I think Styles can do everything. He’s a tone setter. Former safety, sudden, physical, and he gets guys on the ground. So if they took any of the top D guys - Reese, Bain, Bailey, Downs, or Styles - I’d take it. They just need someone who can make plays and help close out games. Period.