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That's so important on so many different levels. For Joe personally, to always be trying to get better. And for the example it sets for everyone else on the team - means each player will consciously or subconsciously work to meet that same standard. We've already been reminded of that again this week with Tee and Logan Wilson there and working out rather than sitting out voluntaries (like usually happens with players in their kind of contract status). We really have not had someone quite like that on that score at QB in my lifetime (1970 to the present). No offense to Kenny A and Boomer especially, but this is something quite different. It's a HUGE piece of the puzzle for why this team has gotten good and why it has a puncher's chance to stay good as long as Burrow is here as the leader of this team.

Thanks for asking Harry. I'll be around but life currently has other plans for me at the moment. Health care within the VA system is sometimes difficult. I'm hoping things level out and I'll be back more frequently.

“less running and more throwing.” = "more incompletions and interceptions"

For the Bengals, doesn't playing in Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Baltimore count as away games in third world cities?

How many contracts did Huber get? It depends on how well the player is performing and whether he's old by the standards of his position. NT is a job which depends on size and strength more than mobility. That's why guys like Vince Wilfork or Ted Washington were effective at an advanced age. They played 13 and 17 seasons respectively. Reader is going into his 8th season and played very well last year. The team shouldn't be afraid to extend him a couple of years for numbers similar to what he currently makes. The team should be more afraid of losing a very good DT if they have to replace him, whether with Tupou or a rookie or another free agent. Yeah, the idea of Burrow holding out is silly. The CBA includes pretty severe penalties for holding out during training camp, let alone missing games. So players in general don't try it. And Burrow is about the least likely guy in the NFL to hold out.

The stealers are the home team for both of their Thursday night games. They are also at home for their game prior to each of their Thursday games. Must be nice to be a favorite of the commissioner. 😠

Don't care.. I love Sunday at !:00

I’m glad to see that Chase and his brother will now be able to take care of their mom. But I also have to say that due mostly to all of the escalating QB contracts, it’s funny how $4 million doesn’t seem like much money…but it really is. 🤔

Are you suggesting that the Bengals don't invest a shit ton of resources in both lines? In the 2 previous drafts before this one, 10 out of their 16 total draft picks were linemen, 7 of the 10 were taken within the first 4 rounds. In the last 2 years they have brought in 5 external free agent offensive linemen in the past 2 years, 3 of which won at least one Super Bowl ring as starters. 2 of their 4 DL starters were brought in as external free agents, another starter was acquired via a trade. Using all 3 methods (draft/free agency/trades to fortify the off/def lines. RESOURCES APLENTY.

I think they have made more effort to protect the franchise than you are willing to admit. Last year it was Cappa, Karras, and Collins and this year they added Brown. They’ve also drafted two WR to give him probably the best trio in the league to work with. Burrow also benefits from having a strong defense that has carried the team at times. It’s bad luck with the injury situation that ruined the end of last season. No team in the league could survive losing 3 starters at OL, including both tackles. The overall roster and quality on both sides of the ball is among the best in the NFL. Saying otherwise is nonsense.

Yeah, 100% casting one of my votes for Krumrie now for sure. In addition to Krumrie leading this poll, knowing Tibor is against it makes this simple.

I mean it's the Ring of HONOR ... not the Ring of TALENT. So it depends how a fanbase defines "Honor". If you just wanted a wall with all the Bengals who put up the best seasonal stats or made the most Pro Bowls a team could have that ... but a Ring of Honor to me is something different. It is for players that the fan base feels left an impact on them personally, the team, the city, and the organization's legacy. It is a place to "honor" players that helped define what an organization is. So guys like Fulcher and Krumrie to me are just as deserving as someone with as many Pro Bowls as AJ Green.

I really don't know what trade partner for Williams you think you are going to find, or why you think cutting Mixon is a legitimate option at this point. This has kind of become a theme with you, and I really question the legitimacy of the argument at this point in the season. Williams had his best year in his 4th year, so of course they were going to give him the 5th year option. Unfortunately, it turned out that his 5th year was pretty bad and we were able to upgrade by getting OBJ. But that left them 12 mil on the hook for Williams, that's nobody's fault because the previous year he played well enough to earn the extension. Let's just be thankful that 12 million is only for one year and we didn't extend him into a new contract, because that could have been so much worse. The argument that we should trade him .....with who? ... The Jags were the only team that reported interest and I'm going to say this again, none of us know what their offer was for.....but it wasn't enough to entice the Bengals. That isn't likely to change now. MAYBE someone gets hurt and they find trading partner to take the 12 million off our hands.....but I kind of doubt it. But the 12 million will be off the books by the time the season is over and will allow us from the time the season is over until the start of FA to use that money on other players. You also made the argument that we should have traded him before the draft. Again ....with who? His trade value was even lower before the draft because teams we going to sit and wait to see if they could get a tackle in the draft. I really do not understand the logic in the trade him before the draft thinking. It makes no sense to me at all. Now to Mixon.... It was thought that had one of the RBs dropped to 28 they may have take one, that did not happen. In fact the RBs for the value they had them we just not there until Brown in the 5th. And the Derick Henry stuff was never serious, anyone who thought the Titans were going to trade away their best player ....come on... Which leaves Mixon as RB1 because they are not going to start a 5th round rookie RB on a team that is competing for a Super Bowl. Let this talk die.

Seems all of them look in great shape. JB and Chase look stronger... Volson looks like Quentin Nelson (330lbs).. Carman and Collins look slimmer.. Just like the way they've dedicated themselves to be in peak condition this season..

The 5th year option is guaranteed money. If they trade him tomorrow, then the Bengals will be off the hook for the 12 mil because that's the only way they trade him. If another team wanted him they are going to have to pay him the full salary, the Bengals will not split his salary with another team for him to not be on our roster. Thus, it's pretty likely he is going to be here. They are also not going to cut Mixon to give the reigns to a 4th round rookie. Especially not when this is a Superbowl caliber roster. I have no idea why we keep talking about this at this point

Must’ve been a helluva bong rip..

I think that's most of it from the day, good stuff to read through etc it looks like.

That's not just NFL owners, that's the ruling class.

I like 'em, myself.

I found it interesting that Ted Karras is definitely following the coaches' line about RT being an open competition, and not something that will just be given to Jonah. If he wants it he will have to earn it. Karras has been talking to Williams regularly, expects him to report to mandatory camp next month to start competing for the job. I also noticed the photo of Collins and Carman reporting to OTA practice yesterday. I really think Collins has taken well to his serious knee rehab, and is determined to make it back on the field this year. Also still claiming that his back, which hampered him much of last season, has never felt better.

Burrow looks jacked! Definitely been lifting and working out this offseason. Hopefully this will be the year he can have a full offseason/season of good health. No QB deserves that more than Joe.

All this hype for a game that's 7 1/2 months away. I love it! Also give me 7 1/2 months to come up with a way to tell Lady Friend Lorraine that we aren't doing anything New Years Eve. My New Years plans are to come home, build a nice fire in the fireplace and bond with the Bengals. Actually, can't think of a better way to bring in 2024 than with a Big W over the Kansas City Kermits.

And get off Fox News..

☝️ If I wanted to see a competition of grown men kicking each other in the shins and trying to break each other's elbows I'd watch MMA. Football is a team sport with rules. If they're going to let some teams ignore those rules it's not really a sport anymore.

Been away for board for the better part of a week. I comeback to T-Dub raising hell about RT and Jonah Williams on at least three different threads. Dios Mio…

Very much sums it up. I did not reply in the Grade the Draft thread because no matter how good the draft was (and it was), we still have these pressing needs right now at ORT and a top notch tight end would have been nice. And our starting running back shouldn't even be on the team.

Oh well, nothing they could do. It was either keep him or stuff a jersey full of straw. 🥷

With apologies to CCR her version of "Proud Mary" is definitive, but she really shined after dumping Ike. Proceeded to break the mold & stayed relevant right up to the end, unlike so many of her peers from that era.

Sounds like he's got a family member at gunpoint. "I REALLY LIKE JOE MIXON!" Someone tell Zac to blink twice if he's in danger.

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PFF Offseason Grade ... CINCINNATI BENGALS Offseason Grade: A Cincinnati securing the services of Orlando Brown Jr. at tackle was both unexpected and excellent opportunistic work. Brown has five straight seasons with a PFF pass-blocking grade of at least 74.4 and helps further solidify the Bengals' offensive line. Cody Ford adds depth to the group, as well, while the gamble that Irv Smith Jr. can remain healthy is an excellent buy-low gamble. Their draft was an excellent one also, with Myles Murphy bringing elite tools and flashes of play at an area of the draft where that skill set is typically gone. Cornerback D.J. Turner, safety Jordan Battle, receiver Charlie Jones and running back Chase Brown all future-proof areas of the roster without needing to be pressed into full-time roles right away.

Nothing to apologize for Griever - I was travelling today and didn't get a chance to see twitter or look for news at all. Came here first hoping you had collected some stuff from today since the media was there. Much, much appreciated.

As far as reports go, ONE team had any interest in Williams. And we have no idea if that meant they would take on the entire contract or even part of it, but the offer was obviously not serious enough for the Bengals to make that trade. So I'm not sure exactly what value he actually had. And yet here Derick Herny is.....still a Titan. The "poor allocation of resources" argument is a moot point here. There isn't anyone here that is not under contract. What money they pay or don't pay Williams or Mixon isn't going to someone else, at least not yet and it's pretty likely Williams won't be here next year anyway so that money frees up next year. If Mixon doesn't return to form he likely wont be here next year either. And as someone else pointed out the Eagles last year were in a similar situation paying one of their backup linemen starter's money. I'm pretty sure nobody in Philly cared when they made it to the Superbowl. This is an NFL team, not a quarterly report that needs to show a profit to shareholders.

You could say the same thing for any player as the risk of injury is significant for all of them. And yes, I do have faith that between Jonah, Jackson, or La'el that the Bengals will find someone that can play RT at a high enough level to help us win games. I believe in the front office to make the correct evaluations and the coaching staff to develop those guys and put them in a position to succeed.

The headband pics are great, but can we talk about how ripped Chido looks? His whole knee surgery rehab looks like it is going extremely well. Hopefully he has no setbacks. He was missed in the playoffs. Has to be the most underrated CB in the league.

If Burrow takes a team friendly deal to keep Higgins, it really makes it tough for Higgins to hold out for every dollar. As then that puts Chase's deal in jeopardy. We just need all 3 of them to take a little less playing salary and make up for it with endorsements after they win multiple Super Bowls together.

Lol...Burrow is 1-5 vs the Browns....they don't need ZDarius Smith's help to beat the Bengals. Suggesting a team is trading for a specific player to go against a specific team is laughable especially when they have beat that team more than any team in the division. Maybe the Browns got Smith because they lost Clowney, weren't able to address it in the draft, and needed a vet pass rusher on the roster to compliment Garrett...or the Browns front office and coaching staff has a daily meeting on how to bet the Bengals and this is phase 1 of their plan.

I think it's more that the other owners hate MB specifically. Pumpkin seems to want to run things like a modern NFL franchise & with continued success they'll stop looking at the Bengals as a hole they keep shoveling money into with no return. The KC rivalry & the more sibling-style friendlier rivalry with Buffalo are good for business. Marvin almost got to this point but was never on the same page with ownership & it all fell apart. We'll see if they're willing to let Zac cook or not. This Mixon stuff feels very old Bengals to me, or naming Jonah the starting RT. Those don't seem like football decisions.

My advice to you is just drink a Bud Light and forget about it...

and if you pack a sharpened screwdriver in your lunchpail and try to stab someone in the ear with it that's just fine?

She was on point with calling out the league for the whole coin flip for home field with Baltimore bullsh*t, that's for sure. The dirtiest team (by far) whining about Burfict was of course, ridiculous. There's an endless list (Palmer's knee, Huber's jaw, Gio's neck, Eifert's head, etc,etc, etc.) of things that should have been addressed. Spilt milk, for sure. Always bugged the sh*t out of me though. Now some fresh quotes from the Pissburgh Jackals about their desire to field goons, just need to instruct the new guys to keep it on the down low? Would love Katie (or anyone in the FO) to get in front of it. Let em know, Homie Don't Play That. Not anymore.

He’s a troll. just put him on ignore. Whatever the team does he will say it was dumb. If they’d actually signed Bell to the contract the panthers did he would have criticized that. None of his posting is in good faith.

If he can do that, he can pick up a blitzing corner. Just a matter of recognition and technique but the ability is certainly there.