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Le Tigre

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  1. 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said:

     

    Right, but he didn't forget everything about coaching once he left Cleveland. He was still a great coach here in Cincinnati, he just had less talented players initially. 

     

    If you gave him an all time team to coach instead of an expansion team full of rookies and cast offs then that's a different conversation. 

    Will never downplay the coaching greatness of PB—ever. 
     

    In terms of the thread context—have in “that game for the Bengals”(championship)—did he do better than the other candidates? 
     

    He made the playoffs 3 times in Cincinnati: 1970, 1973, 1975. Lost all 3. Your point of 1970 is well taken—and his skills to even get that group into the playoffs were significant. Not sure that would apply to ‘73 and ‘75 however. 

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  2. 10 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

     

    The Modell Law has never held up in court because it's never been officially challenged, but I believe if it ever was, it would be ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court.

     

    It's one of those laws that pandering politicians pass as a PR stunt, knowing they don't have the legal right to do it. 

    The state/city sued the Columbus Crew’s owner during their proposed move to Austin TX in 2018 using the Modell Law. The trial court issued a “pause” injunction, and encouraged negotiations. The owner appealed, but was denied. Jimmy Haslam, ironically, put together a purchasing group, and a deal was concluded to buy the Crew and keep them here. 
     

    The law wasn’t fully adjudicated, however it had enough clout to have the first two rungs of state court agree. 

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  3. If the context of the choice is—as previously presented—the guy you want for “that game” (championship), then it gets much murkier. 
     

    PB never had the “that game” to make a case. Forrest Gregg did have the “that game” (AFC Championship, assisted by Russian Front weather)…but didn’t in the SB

     

    Sam had several “that games” in ‘88 (everyone sort of forgets the final regular season game against WASH, the Divisional Round against SEA and the AFC Championship Game). Didn’t in the SB. 
     

    In the context of delivering in “that game”, I would tend to lean towards Sam. ZT is 1A—as he has had more than a few “that games” in the past two seasons. 
     

     

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  4. 12 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

    This seems off to me ... last ?

     

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    https://www.eisneramper.com/insights/sports-entertainment/sports-franchise-valuation-0122/#:~:text=As is the case with,and operating expenses are unique.
     

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  5. 7 hours ago, A Rock said:

    I hear you loud and clear that the complaint is just allegations. My best guess, based on my best common sense, tells me the neighbor kids probably weren't just minding their own business with their nerf guns. (Obviously I don't know this!) I would guess some form of perceived disrespect and probably some real stupidity were being exchanged. HOWEVER, choosing to settle whatever was happening with a lethal weapon is just flat out criminally and dangerously stupid. Yes, truly a dirtbag move. He fired 11 shots if I'm remembering right? One hitting the nerf gun another hitting the victim's foot, the other nine missing. That's probably exactly what he wanted to do, and it certainly doesn't matter in the slightest what the kids were doing at this point, short of posing a lethal threat which I doubt. Mixon certainly deserves the chance for the legal process to play out, but it's not the only trouble he's had, and the Bengals don't need it. Keeping company with, adjacent to, not to mention arming a dirtbag = fellow dirtbag.

    Good take. Understand that I’m looking at this solely from the civil litigation perspective—where there is no “guilty” or “innocent”, only who/whom is “liable” to another for money damages or equitable relief. 
     

    In civil litigation, both plaintiff and defendant can be dirtbags—personal integrity is not (or should not) be considered. Why Joe Mixon even had (let alone needed) military-grade weaponry on his property to allegedly give away to his sister’s useless BF, is a mystery to me. 
     

    The fine lines between being civilly liable and criminally guilty, can be blurry. In this sad case, Joe may be paying lots of cash to the minor and be carted off to the county jail. We shall see. 

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  6. One has to consider, however, allegations in the four-corners of a civil complaint, are just that: allegations. They are rarely gospel. 
     

    “Providing weapons” to the dirtbag is in all likelihood, an overstatement of what “providing” entails. I see in some of my negligent entrustment cases, circumstances where “providing” is actually much more benign. Tacit approval of “hey Joe, cool guns..can I see them?”…does not mean Mixon actually handed them to the dirtbag to go shoot at minors next door. This is a subjective  observation of course…the fact gathering (discovery) will likely find something somewhere in between. 
     

    Would Joe be found liable (not the term “guilty) to the kid for injuries caused by the actual shooter? Maybe. My property…my weapons..uncollectable dirtbag shooter and his worthless sister…sure, probably. 
     

    Settlement will come sometime in mid-season. 

  7. It will be interesting to see the actual text of the complaint, however the gist of the article would indicate a boilerplate “it’s your property…it’s your weapons..so it’s your fault” conclusion. The shooter is a toss-in defendant—and just a connective party to get to the money. 
     

    Joe certainly has a homeowner’s liability policy—unless he is completely altogether stupid. Assuming he does…and assuming the complaint also alleges negligence on his part…his homeowner insurance will defend and indemnify (pay for) him. I figure the dirtbag shooter will be on his own though. The Bengals—since they are not party to the action—are not involved. 
     

    Depending how fast the plaintiffs want to cash out, I would figure it will not take too long before this is quietly settled.  

  8. 29 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

    We knew what Bob was calling before he did..

    Mr. Obvious..

     

    “Bratkowski , 45, who oversaw the league's top pass offense in 1997 as Dennis Erickson's offensive coordinator in Seattle, replaces the demoted Ken Anderson.”

     

    "We're pleased to have a guy of Bob's experience," said Bengals President Mike Brown. "He's been around some excellent passing games and should be a big help to us."

  9. 3 hours ago, High School Harry said:

    The Offensive Coordinator for the Strike Team when they never threw the ball.

    If memory serves me correctly, Coslet was still OC for the Replacement Games. Not altogether certain though. I still attended the home ones anyway—the first one against SD being really the only true “Strike Team” match. 
     

    And I’ll have you know, that the legendary Adrian Breen was 3-5 for 9 yards and a TD. 
     

    Found this, as a memory of the pregame fun between the warring sides. Norman was a douche most times, but a principled douche at least. 

    (For the record—despite the Collinsworth condemnation—I attended, but didn’t support the NFL or the players. Remember saying often “a pox on both of them”. That, and I had already paid for my season tickets in full, and was going to go to the game. Still sat in my purchased seat!)

     

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  10. 45 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said:

     

    The Ravens were sued by an artist who came up with that design before the Browns moved into town. 

     

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    The bonehead claimed a copyright but faxed it to the team, unsolicited, implying they were free to use it.  They did.  He sued.  It got messy.  The Ravens walked back the logo and complete re-did it.  Dont know if the artist ever got compensated or not.

     

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-ravens-logo-lawsuit-20120702-story.html

    As we both well know, the name “Ravens” was a de facto answer to settled litigation by the City of Cleveland and the NFL/Maryland Stadium Commission. 
     

    They were always going to be the “Baltimore Browns”. First jump after the move announcement was from the Sun: 

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    Even the Mayor and Governor welcomed the “Baltimore Browns”. 

    The  Cleveland Football Team is a creation of litigation, and only exists because of it. 
     

    Then again, a fellow you and I are well familiar with—Ernie Acorsi—had a thought for a name two years before there was a move:

     

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    After the angst over Bullets to Wizards, doubtful Bombers would have lasted long, but history of team names—and also the ones which never made it—are interesting 

  11. Multiple origin theories of the nickname:

     

    "In a segment with WGFX-FM 104.5 (The Zone) in Nashville on Tuesday, long-time Houston Chronicle reporter John McClain noted that original plans included a different nickname for the team and a different layout for the stadium on the east bank of the Cumberland River."

     

    “The Titans were going to be the ‘Pioneers,’” McClain, who closely covered the franchise’s transition from Houston, said. “Then it got out. I think somebody in Memphis found out about it. So, [franchise founder] Bud Adams changed everything and went to Titans.”

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    "The Oilers played one season in Memphis and one in Nashville at Vanderbilt University’s football stadium before their home stadium was completed prior to the 1999 season. The team was then rechristened the Tennessee Titans, a name derived from Nashville’s sobriquet of “the Athens of the South.”

     

    It does have its own Parthenon

     

    The Athens Of The South: A Brief History Of The Nashville Parthenon

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  12. Having seen Norman play many games over the years in-person—from rookie year until the final Fun Ride of ‘97–he always stirred a mixture of “wow” and “whatever”. 
     

    His first few seasons, he couldn’t hit his ass with either hand…alternating from Chapman fastballs when the receiver was 10 yards away, to floaters that floated but landed no where near the intended target. Sam refocused him, and ‘86–his finest season in stripes in my humble opinion—he was a dynamo. ‘88 was wonderful, but he started to tail off dramatically until his dispatch to NYJ. The second half of ‘97 was almost ‘86-like—and one of my favorite half years of the Lost Decade. 
     

    All-told: he was an overall very good QB, and a magnificent leader. Without a lot of alternatives on the QB side, he probably should be on the ROH. Whether it should be this early can be debated also. 

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