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On 10/30/2023 at 4:34 AM, BlackJesus said:
Tua 2.0
I think Purdy got another concussion yesterday at the end of the game that they missed and are now hiding ...
this was a lame call, it appeard to be reasonable but they came in waist high, he was moving backwards, they didnt really do anything wrong.
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last question.
if the LEAGUE WIDE, rate of a first or second round drafted o-lineman, remaining with the team who drafted him past their rookie deal, is 30%.
why does everyone pretend everyone is both great at drafting linemen and has great olines, except the bengals.
you just read an article saying why, LEAGUE WIDE, linemen are trash and hard to find.. why do you pretend its a bengals specific issue and start blaming coaches, etc?
you JUST read it.. and the percentage of second deals for 1/2rd picks is less than 1 in 3. for the entire league.
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follow up question.
if, say, you have a QB who is hurt, so you are both always in shotgun, AND that qb is unable to move in the pocket and escape pressure at all, would that, MAYBE, make the performance of those protecting him appear to be much worse than it normally would be?
asking for a friend.
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On 10/21/2023 at 6:17 PM, gupps said:
It's not just the draft picks tho, our free agents seem to regress once they get here. And the draft picks that DO stick never seem to improve much beyond backup status. I should have added that in my original post, my bad.
We make fun of Paul Alexander but he fielded some pretty good olines, has Pollack done that here?
got a question for ya.
say you draft or sign a good player, right? if you put that good player, next to a bad player, do you think the performance of the good player would decrease due to being next to a worse team mate, which would reasonably make their job harder or put them in worse situations during plays?
like say you put a guy like orlando brown, next to, i dunno, one of the worst rated offensive linemen in the entire league at his position?
thoughts?
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On 10/29/2023 at 2:38 PM, High School Harry said:
Hello, Cordell... thanks for then big hole.
my god. why are yall so DESPERATE to pretind this dude is anything but below average?
he had a basic block, meanwhile brown pulls from LT across the run lane and smashed the lineback creating the huge hole..
un fucking real with you all.
the motives are starting to get suspicious to be honest.
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jason williams fucking sucks.
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On 10/30/2023 at 10:56 AM, Griever said:
the more i look at this the less it means to me.
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On 10/19/2023 at 2:03 PM, PatternMaster said:
There's no way I'm paying Tee Higgins top 10 WR money, which is between 20-30 million. Higgins could get around 20 million on the open market but the Bengals would be foolish to do that.
WR salaries are getting crazy high and it will be impossible to keep two talented guys after their rookie deals are up if they both want top dollar, which is why the Bengals drafted two WRs in the draft this year as Higgins and Boyd are both FA next offseason.
i cant fathom that anyone the bengals drafted is slotted to replace higgins snaps in this offense, or boyds honestly.
On 10/19/2023 at 3:18 PM, claptonrocks said:Agree..
Liking this Marshal trade if it happens.
meh, i dont think playing with burrow years ago and being extremely below mediocre in the nfl since is much to yearn for, for me personally.
On 10/19/2023 at 3:50 PM, jmckbengal said:Bring back Samaje!!!!!
for what?
On 10/19/2023 at 4:15 PM, MichaelWeston said:Cordoralle Patterson
lmfao
On 10/21/2023 at 6:56 AM, MichaelWeston said:I see it as there being 3 positions I could see a trade
RB
TE
DT
There are 6 teams that seem out of it and are likely traders
Panthers
Giants
Bears
Cardinals
Broncos
Patriots
I will go through the TE and DT options as I get time. They are not in order. RB is but Patterson and Perine should be 1A and 1B.
RB Options
1. Cordarrelle Patterson-Falcons 6-2 220 32
a. 2023-4.25M
b. 2023: 16 snaps, 1 att, 0 yards; 2 catches-13 yards-6.5avg
c. 2022: 382 snaps, 144 att-695 yards-4.8avg-8td; 31 catches-122 yards-5.8avg
He’s buried behind Allgeier and Robison and that’s not going to change outside of an injury. He still had something last year and I think he could be the kind of guy who could turn screens and short yardage plays into big plays. Was also a dynamic returner.
2. Samaje Perine-Broncos 5-10 236 28
a. 2023-1.5M; 2024-3M
b. 2023: 150 snaps, 24 att, 88 yards; 17 catches-184 yards-10.8avg
c. 2022: 448 snaps, 95 att, 394 yards-2tds; 38 catches-287 yards-7.6avg-4tds
Perine isn’t getting as many snaps or touches and the Broncos are terrible. A reunion could be great. His run blocking numbers aren’t nearly as good as last year. He has a 42 grade on 17 pass blocking snaps.
3. Rashaad Penny-Eagles 5-11 220 27
a. 2023-1.08M
b. 2023: 9 snaps, 3-9-0, 1-5-5.0
c. 2022: 170 snaps, 57-346-6.1-2, 4-16-4.0
Another guy who isn’t getting any run. Lots of injuries in his career but has flashed talent when he isn’t injured.
4. Zeke Elliott-Patriots 6-0 225 28
a. 2023-1.55M
b. 2023: 147 snaps, 49-193-3.9-1, 13-59-4.5
c. 2022: 558 snaps, 231-876-3.8-12, 17-92-5.4
Zeke was rumored to be coming here this offseason. He isn’t doing terrible with the Patriots but we didn’t seek him out then and I doubt we do now.
TE
1. Zach Ertz
2. Robert Tonyan
3. Adam Trautman
4. Brock Wright
5. Moe Allie-Cox
6. Hunter Henry
7. Austin Hooper
8. Daniel Bellinger
9. CJ Uzomah
10. Jeremy Ruckert
11. Ross Dwelley
12. Mike Gesicki
Dt.
1. Harris
2. Jones-Titans
3 Jones-Bears
4.Nunez-Roches-Giants
5.Guy
this is kind of a list of old, overpaid or shitty players. because teams dont trade good players on reasonable contracts no matter what their situation.
On 10/21/2023 at 7:22 AM, Cricket said:Yeah, let’s get Julie Ertz’s husband…
no
waoah... "thats someones WIFE" - some asshole on here, probably.
On 10/21/2023 at 7:39 PM, MichaelWeston said:Trades in the NFL are increasingly common. You don't need to know the entire playbook to have success.
i dunno about all that, there were 11 trades last year, how many this year? not all that common.
On 10/22/2023 at 7:03 AM, High School Harry said:So much this.
Chances are he could clear waivers and be back on our practice squad.
Possibly cut Wilcox who would perhaps be more likely to clear waivers.
Also curious about Zach Gentry, the big tight end practice squad pick up from the Stealers.
Can he block?
yall think the coaches just have a crush on Irv smith or something? they are giving him a chance post injury and injury recovery (hanstring injury was effecting him until the bye) but if there was a clear better option for everything we need you dont think theyd have replaced him by now? he isa 1 year guy making peanuts, if hudson was clearly better at everything, he would be getting more snaps, the coaches know something they dont care for, i would assume.
22 hours ago, claptonrocks said:I think Trenton Iwine will make the offense move more than Jones.
Jones is a good route runner with speed but his frail frame screams injuries.
im not sure than 12 lbs difference is really a game changer between the two. and considering the 2" height difference id say the frame is identical.
12 hours ago, PatternMaster said:Chase Young coming back to Ohio would be awesome and make us the Super Bowl favorite, putting Young on the other side of Henderickson would be crazy...
yea those 11 games he was healthy for the last two years combined were awesome.. lol great player, but damn.
10 hours ago, High School Harry said:And we did nothing.
Mixed feelings.
I would have liked to have seen Carl Lawson back.
Ossai can't stay healthy and it isn't like Murphy is setting the
world on fire.
Oh well...
Bring in the Buffalos Sunday nite.
lmao carl lawson isnt anything to write home about either. hasnt done a damn thing since leaving. and ossai cant stay healthy? Lawson has missed many games in 3 of his 6 years as well.
9 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:I wanted mayer
ewww.
9 hours ago, PatternMaster said:If they hadn't used a first round pick on Murphy then maybe they would have gone after Young or Lawson, but it would stunt his development if they traded for another DE.
no they wouldnt have. lawson is making 15mil. ayear, and young is about to get a huge stack when his rookie deal ends.
9 hours ago, Mikeslumina said:I take ham sandwich over irv smith. I didn’t like his body language after his fumble.
lololol what did his body language say?
9 hours ago, Griever said:As did I. Raiders are pathetic but he made some good grabs last night
he had one single catch. only has 11 on the year, zero touchdown, hell he has 1 more reception than irv smith, and like 88 more yards, Mayer is projected to end with 23 catches, 300 yards and zero touchdown...
a guy can dream tho right?
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we know cause yall stopped crying that the season was over and trying to play jake fucking browning (fmfs).
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On 10/29/2023 at 5:50 PM, High School Harry said:
Lots of cheap drama fan involvement crap again at the stadium.
Alternating orange and black sections of fan dress for striped effect.
Kevin Huber pre game Ruler of the Jungle and suiting up to punt at half time.
stuff like that
man can you believe they want to involve fans and let people do something they may enjoy to feel slightly more connected, how silly. OH and bring back a long tenured player, local, and fan favorite to boot? sheesh...
On 10/29/2023 at 6:18 PM, Le Tigre said:Late night-get-home-at-2:30am-event?
Not this time for yours truly.
doesnt look like i will be there either. did sell my extra set today for $750/pair, holding my set for a few more days to be sure im not coming.
On 10/30/2023 at 11:21 AM, Griever said:this dude has been injured half his career holy shit i just looked at his stats, 61 starts in 6 years. not likely to play us either way but yikes.
On 10/30/2023 at 11:09 AM, Jamie_B said:The line is 2.5 in our favor
Meaning because home teams get 3, they think the Bills win.
close.
On 10/30/2023 at 7:01 PM, Griever said:I think this will be a tough matchup honestly...
You catch Allen on a good day and he can make some impossible throws possible. Catch him on a bad day and he could throw multiple interceptions.
will be close if they get a lead, could be the same as SF if we get a lead. i am eager to see.
On 10/30/2023 at 8:30 PM, Cricket said:
…meaning they think the Bills would win ON A NEUTRAL FIELD. The game is in Cincinnati, so Bengals are favored.
[Actually, the line is set in order to even out the bets for each team.]
yes and also yes.
On 10/30/2023 at 9:09 PM, Jamie_B said:Yes, that's what I was alluding to when i mentioned the home team gets 3 points
but they dont think the bills will win on that line, as stated in the data point, the bengals are indeed favored... to win.
On 10/30/2023 at 9:29 PM, Cricket said:
You said “…they think the Bills win.”
The game is in Cincinnati and Cincinnati is favored by 2.5. They think the Bengals win.
Or was I to assume that “they think the Bills win” is followed by the words “at a neutral cite.”?yes.
22 hours ago, claptonrocks said:Bills Oline is comparative to the Bengals
Their interior oline looks weak in the run game.
RDE Gteg Rousseau is their best rusher.
If Zeus steps up and contains him JB will have time to disect the Bills
Add to the fact that the Bills oline interior is soft on run plays the Bengals have many options on their playbook to run effectively.
I can the number ,#3 QB in the NFL putting up numbers but it will fall short.
JB is just to good...to be true.
sililar ratings aside from LT, their LT hasnt had to play next to Sloth Fratelli all season.
21 hours ago, Jamie_B said:If you normally give the home team 3 by default, you then think it's a toss up, but you're giving them 2.5......
yes the home team gets the advantage to win by three if even, they feel the bills are the better team but the bengals win due to home field. the only innacuracy he is pointing out is that they think the bills are better, not that the bills will win.
17 hours ago, PatternMaster said:ESPN's FPI has the Bills with a 67% of winning this game, they are predicting them to win by 6 points...
Not sure who anyone who has watched these teams play recently(the last 3 weeks) would think the Bills would beat the Bengals at home, especially when you consider how these teams match up.
now we are getting off track. a bit different rating/picking system vs the traditional spread. that pick is wild though.
14 hours ago, BlackJesus said:^ As for this week, they could have also done the orange jerseys and done an "orange out" in the stands, rather than the stadium stripes thing they are trying to pull off.
there isnt a ton of orange bengals gear, its all black or white based. if they want an orange out, they need to pass out towels, and honestly for the striped sections, they should have passed out t shirts or towels per section, fans are dumb as hell, and as mentioned there isnt a ton of orange gear even the jerseys are slim pickins,
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On 10/25/2023 at 5:39 PM, Le Tigre said:
I honestly never have figured out why people consider any pick past 5 as “Draft capital”. (Cue Tom Brady pick)
9 times out of 10, the 6-7 picks are projects. Cheap, but projects nevertheless.
Hurst will never be compared with Taylor S’s sweetie, but he was good enough here to be well worth the trade of a project pick.
its the money not the trash pick, IMO, does paying a 32 year old TE they didnt want to pay 4 months ago and giving up any random pick sound like a bengals move? thats a browns/bears type move, or a 2002 bengals move.
On 10/25/2023 at 7:01 PM, High School Harry said:Do you feel the same way about Perine?
Serious, not snarky question.
yes. perine is just a guy, lets not pretend he is more than that. he had a couple great games, but at the end of the day he is a great blocking, average, at best, running RB.
lets be real about some things.
Perine is only able to have moderate success when he is the 5th(6th?) option, the chiefs and steelers certainly knew perine existed, but Mixon left with a concussion(vs steelers), so the steelers planned for Chase, Tee, Boyd, Hurst, Mixon, Joe Running, Drew Sample, the water boy, then THEN Perine. mixon leaves with a concussion, and the perine plays (not plays for perine but the plays that perine can run, very different than Mixon) so its shit thats not on film, shit they didnt see us run with/for him ever.
Lets also be clear, that his stats in YPC are beefed up due to coming in with fresh legs in trash time OR fresh legs and a "surprise" 3rd down run on a 50/50 or passing down getting 5-6 yards on 3rd and 13 type of thing. While mixon is the one crushing through for a 1 yard TD or 3rd or 4th and 1, etc.
I would take Perine over Williams, sure, but he is a player barely worth thinking about.we dont run Williams as much, but his blocking is solid, he had the one mental error in that one game but has been pretty solid in general.
On 10/26/2023 at 8:15 AM, PatternMaster said:For all of the Irv Smith hate going on around here, let's give his situation with the Bengals some context and perspective. He's had 11 targets through four games and he has 6 receptions. Irv doesn't have control of what routes he gets to run or when he gets targeted for a pass, so blaming him for lack of production is a bit short-sided and stupid.
On most passing plays he's the 3rd or 4th option and for the first 4 games of the season, Burrow was throwing the ball quickly to avoid injury because he wasn't mobile enough to extend the play to get to his 3rd or 4th option. Also, Jamarr Chase is on pace to set a franchise record with targets and receptions and set a franchise record with 15 catches in a game and there are only so many targets to go around.
If anything the OC and HC need to figure out ways to get him more involved in the offense and have him run routes that will give him opportunities to make big plays because no TE will be productive with 11 targets in 4 games running short routes while being the QBs 3rd or 4th option.
he has also been hurt, but he is also not very good. I agree with the above, in fact i said it 2-3 times in previous weeks, but he isnt very good, there is a reason he is getting a 1 year sub 2 mil a year deal, if he were good, someone would be paying him 4-5 mil a year on a flyer to help out the team. does he get one more chance after the fumble? if so, then there is something wrong with Hudson that they dont like or cant trust.
7 hours ago, sparky151 said:Dunno if Hurst was available or not, but Bengals should have admitted Irv Smith isn't very good and looked for an upgrade today.
meh, not really a huge deal, serviceable guys all around, and any upgrades come with high age AND/or large price tags. two things the bengals dislike.
5 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:They already have an upgrade in Tanner Hudson
maybe. does he block well? i havent paid a ton of attention, seems he almost HAS to be missing somehing the coaches want or need if he isnt getting more snaps than he has been getting.
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3 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:
It's kind of the reality of guys like Hurst, go get big money elsewhere, dont preform (not his fault really) and get cut or traded for less money than he was making.
I'm not paying him what Carolina is, but he he wants to come back here for no higher than a 6th rounder and he wants to rework his deal to stick around for maybe 3 years at a reasonable price, I'm not opposed to it.
But I'm not paying any more than that.
looks like 13 was guaranteed, so there is only 8 to play with, i doubt he conceded any money, its probably his last, he is 30, and being that he is 30, im not sure the bengals are willing to do anything over 1 years again. id love it, if it was a cut and sign cheap scenario, but the odds arent likely in our favor.
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i dunno how the hell i missed this during the season.
my son and I after game 5 winning the finals. these are our season tickets about 8 rows off the court at the end..
flew him back from college yesterday to go to the ring ceremony and lakers game, handing the Lakers 5 straight L's has been very enjoyable.
glad the season is back, helps with me sports cravings. gonna miss my son being at all the games with me, probably sell 30% of the tickets.
they handed out mini championship banners at the game...
and they have 3 fan championship ring options. $10k, $7k, and $900
killin me.
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lmao... so we.... give up assets for the guy who left because we didnt want to pay him what he got paid...
GENIUS!!!!!1111
Chris Roling isnt very good at football thoguhts.
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On 10/24/2023 at 2:40 PM, Homer_Rice said:
I could turn a platypus loose in a room full of keyboards and it would come up with a better article than this.
The Bengals are fine. And no, not every dink reporter is smarter than a G.M.
this is my favorite post this month. we need a post of the month award.
22 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said:No but they do need a serviceable tight end
kinda, irv smith sucks, dont get me wrong, but we may see hudson take his spot within 2-3 games, which would then have us having a serviceable TE.
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On 10/23/2023 at 11:58 AM, claptonrocks said:
Pff ratings on SF oline now.
LT Williams....81.9
LG. Banks.......45.0
C. Brands......59.8
RG. Buford......48.2
RT McKivitz....59.2
I believe our D will get after them.
why dont they just sign someone? why dont they just trade for better lineman? whats the point in having all those weapons if they cant protect them??!?!?!?
On 10/23/2023 at 1:43 PM, claptonrocks said:My preference is Kevin Harlan and Trent Green.
Harlin and Kurt Warner are the best duo on Westwood One radio ever imo.
As for Romo..he's too full of himself.. yaks too much.
i never notice trent green as a broadcaster off the top of my head, i do dislike him as a person, and i dont ahve any real reason for it.
On 10/23/2023 at 6:15 PM, BlackJesus said:^ I must be in the minority, as I enjoy Romo. He is the most astute announcer in the game imo, and often times can call the play in advance as he has a very high level understanding of schematics. I think he could even be a coach if he wanted to be.
Now Mike Tirico's voice I prefer the best, but to me Romo offers the top commentary on substance.
i love romo, he is 10% too corny, but i enjoy what he does.
2 hours ago, Griever said:i hate this chick, i dunno why but it feels like everything she posts is trying to stir shit, like bengals fans, bitch about everything, and included in everything, is the offense, so i feel like shes trying to make a thing here, and i dont feel that way about thoers. she reminds me of the tv show host lady on Parks and Rec who does the GOTCHA segments..
like the shanahan offense has been around for a long time, Kyle has been an OC or higher since 2008, who asks about a 15 year old offense?
we also played against it, so its not like its new to us seeing. "what you think about that offense you palyed against 2 years ago and has been around literally forever"
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if we can juuuuuust face mediocre indecisive QBs with limited offensive weapons and a mediocre o-line every week we are going to fucking crush it..
hoping CMC is out next week, if both he and Samuel are out man id be pretty excited and we should win.
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oh and made it back, took Sois to Larosas, my kid and I hit Larosas off the plane, Frischs for dinner, frischs before the game, and larosas after..
flight boarded at 4:45am monday morning. which is 2:45 am home time.. was fucking horrible.
i need skyline and angilos next trip.
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20 hours ago, Jupiter Fan said:
So I'm to understand our canned shit down here is worthless...acknowledged.
Interesting you mention In an Out, the most over rated fast food that isn't even fast.
I have occasion to travel to LA as my Son is there so I&O are very familiar throughout the area
and every one has a fuckin line outside the drive through of at least 1/2 hour.
And every driver has a phone in his face waiting for a mediocre burger that has to be upgraded, LOL.
Not a fan.
in and out is an odd one, i like the burgers, i like a plain cheeseburger, also a fan of cheese pizza, like if you make good food the base model should be tasty AF too, fries are trash at INO i have it like 3 times a year... lines are wack here too
2 hours ago, Jungletiger said:Look, I been team GS this whole time. SL is meh...
madness
2 hours ago, Jungletiger said:They got it canned on store shelves now.
so odd
1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:Yes..I've bought it
Love the stuff..
wonder how they make it for the shelf. its obviously not how its made in store, how have you seen the comparison?
i worked there as a youth, (kroger, Kings Island, Wendys, Kings Island, Wendys, Started Record label, Cincinnati Bell, T-Mobile, Sprint, Tobacco Company) all my jobs.
all the burgers that sat on the grill too long and got too dry or burnt, got put in a metal bucket, once full it went in the fridge, when you had 2 buckets, you chopped up the old burger patties with the spatulas and toss it in the bagged chili flavoring and filled it with water from the sink, stirred and put on the stove to cook and stir in the long square metal buckets up front.
so i assume they dont have piles of old burger patties at the factory, so im guessing youre probably getting a better product canned than in a wendys.
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On 10/16/2023 at 10:08 AM, High School Harry said:
Gotta say it... Mixon isn't the answer.
Probably nothing can or will be done over the bye week
but he is virtually useless in short yardage and can't all be
blamed on the O line.
Diving into a pile on 4th and 1... Child, please.
it literally can and it literally was blamed on the o-line, specifically by the OC, who even called out the two Olinemen who fucked it up and how they fucked it up.
but go off i guess.
we are still just going to ignore how the pass game the first 4 games specifically hurt the run game due to everything being short and underneath, so no room to run as everyone was at the line anyway cause joe wasnt gonna hold the ball for more than 2.0 seconds..
anyone watch williams and brown run the ball? Mixon is clearly the better runner and makes more out of less everytime in comparison. both the other two are first touch and down.
this whole "if it isnt great, it sucks and needs replaced" mentality of this fanbase is exhausting. it really sucks that going into week 7 we are still working on consistency and expanding the offense, but thats where we are. the only glaring problem is Irv Smith, and he started with the trash offense, then got hurt, and has been bad for 2 weeks, bot frankly the offense has changed each week so much with joes health, he hasnt had a fair shake.
but this is the nfl, and not everyone gets fair shake. so im down for a change, but im guessing he gets one more week like others said. but he is bad enough to risk, in the "cant be worse" thought process
Volson fucking sucks.
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Hey,
Sorry for the offtopic topic, but my sons college basketball team is doing a fundraiser, private college so they fundraiser for equipment, supplements, etc. there is a little video on the link with details, if anyone cares to donate anything, feel free, no worries if not. He is a freshman living his best life off at school.
He has hit his personal goal, school is still trying to hit its goal, and going past it allows them to get even more stuff they need.
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this resume isnt exactly star studded, the win over the lions is the most impressive, and it took overtime.
it has been confirmed that witherspoon does NOT travel with WR's so frankly we can make him literally NEVER cover Chase if we want.
that would be wild and silly but its something we can control it seems.
about to watch thier games in condensed for to see how they are winning and watch these so called killer corners and such....
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there are already way too many people on this earth, hell this thread proves that.
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7 hours ago, Bleeds Orange said:
Apparently we should not expect Ja'Marr Chase to set the franchise record for most receptions in a game every week.
255 receptions on the season would be pretty impressive.
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Bengals sent Cam Taylor-Britt after DK Metcalf to win bully matchup
in THE BENGALS FORUM - For Bengals Fans *Only*
Posted
i dunno about all that. he is currently ranked 79th for corners, with even dj turner ranking better.
CTB got abused early in the year.
if he keeps playing like he has th elast 2-3 weeks though he will shoot up the rankings quickly.. but top 10 is bananas at this point.