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for sure, stop being behind every game all game. that rate would drop quite a bit for sure.

only 1 team was even over 65% last year..

I can never decide how much i care about the run game, in regards to it being a problem, its not 2005, running the ball to open the pass game is a lot less of a situation, bengals averaged 4.1 ypc last season. lack of running was due to being behind constantly vs not being able to run, there are maybe 2-3 teams with a focused run game, unless you have a top 2-3 back in the nfl its not like you are itching for a 50/50 split like back in the day. philly obviously is run heavy. one of the most dynamic backs in history. but your run heavy teams are either those with a top 3 back or a terrible qb, OR a qb who runs often to alter the percentages. then the variables of a young QB when burrow is gonna throw on 3rd and 3, bo nix may be running the ball on that scenario. bengals, browns, jets, giants, chicago raiders all in top 10 passing percentage of snaps. all were behind all the time. so that probably evens out with an improvement on the defensive end.

yea the 110,000 jobs and 50mil per game revenue impact is pretty pointless. cities dont need jobs OR revenue.. i remember than from Econ class.

man its so wild to me how the media behaves. the lack of any real effort, and what they think effort is. this is a random stat, the take is 100% legit and accurate, but all of the things that would make the bengals automatically improve as a team for things that lost us games, this is the one we get an ESPN/MSN/whatever level article for? not the kicking was off due to holder and snapper timing issues? not the defense having key players miss 70+ games? but.... we prolly will fumble less....

they already have this. 100% do have this. Seen it. Its possible some players are confused, and since they asked for 10 family passes, they just get to ALL wait in the general postgame area not in the room with food and snacks. Been to it. its smaller than most. but even the newest of arenas have "levels" of postgame accommodations, ive sat in the nba backrooms, ive had locker room access as a media member, and seem nfl finals level nba teams have a curtained area in the parking garage area for families to wait after the game, part of this is to discourage large entourages, there can be fights between family members, blaming players after a loss, bitching about not getting the ball even in a win. families and friends are sometimes emotional people. Keeping those groups small and not around is a very good idea. but every team and stadium or arena has place for legit close family after games.

good story, I always wonder if other teams fanbases are as bizzare as many of the Bengals fans i have met. Cincinnati is an odd split, you have the frontrunner fans of the steelers as they were winning when some were growing up, you have all the browns fans who were browns fans before the bengals existed, most random fans my age who ARENT from cincinnati, liked their helmets/uniforms when they were young and latched on. My dad was a bengals fan, he was frugal and wasnt going to spend his time and money on a team that wasnt winning when i grew up. The older I got the more I found he was a bigger fan than he let on, but as a result i never went to a bengals game until i was 22 years old and went on my own. bought tickets on the corner, marvin lewis season opener, and i was fucking hooked. I have posted it before, but thats my dad in the brown pants in between #67/#72 storming the field. He was a badass and he was awesome. When my friends all moved away or stopped going to games he went in on my season tickets and went to all the games with me for a few years, it was great, we would hit Frischs on mason montgomery rd by my apartment, and go to the game, when my son and I fly back I do the same, we hit either Frischs by the stadium(just west) or larosas, and the opposite after the game. It just feels right. I almost dont care how the games go, a win is always way better, but the time with my oldest is invaluable. The love of sports is deep with him and I, I have earned hours and hours and hours of time with him that he wouldnt have been off playing video games or fucking around on his phone if it were for sports. Here we are after seeing the Nuggets win their first championship (3 years ago), our season ticket seats, 8 rows off the court. endless hours spending time together. and this morning, he went for his morning workout, only other person in the gym was Derrick White from the Celtics, he lives up the street, is from Parker as well, went to my kids rival High School (well before him ) and he sent me the video of him dunking, something he has been working on for the last year, being able to dunk in a game is easily the difference between getting onto a D3 or D2 hoops team and the lower levels where he is now. And the difference in me paying for half his schooling and none of it.

they already turned down moving to baltimore back in the day, so relocation fees arent going to be the factor, they are a cincinnati family and want to remain so. something they get no credit for, ever.

not enough to even matter in a conversation about stadium funding. and if i recall isnt it based on a baseline revenue anything ABOVE said revenue isnt reported? its not like club seating is a free pocket stuff for teams. I think the same is for demand-based seat prices, team shared the season ticket price, but those single game or MNF game tickets that are suddently 4x the cost.. i think they all pocket that as well. This is why they tried to take away my season tickets, keep them, and charge tons more.. but in the end as far as hundreds of millions go, its pocket lint. if they bump to 10,000 club sats from 7600, even if those are $150 more per seat. thats what, a gain of... $360,000 x 8 = $2.9mil a year...lol its not much in the grand scheme of things.. will that even cover a wifi upgrade?

i didnt read much of this thread of the months, so i started from scratch is my give a shit level has been low as we all knew it would get worked out. As for this, i would be all in, BUT funds arent going to needs no matter what, toll bridge, privately paid stadium, all that, its not going to go to things of need, ever, no matter what, politicians are criminals, we have a toll road here in colorado, C470/E470, it was promoted as a toll road to build it, then after X profit was acquired, it would turn free and be handed over to the state for free, like it cost 50mil to build and they get money back and profit 150million, then hand it over. in the meantime, the gave power of the toll company to block vehicle registration if you had overdue tolls, they built toll booths then switched to license plate scans, added that onto the gap until the profit level, not accounting for the saved labor, so they net gained another 20 million profit in there. the time came for it to become free, the politicians played the card of "the budget is tight, taking on that maintenance will be a burden" and changed the deal not only to keep it a toll, raised the tolls, AND the section that was free, they added "express" lanes to it, instead of just expanding it, and made those tolls. counting on someone to do the right thing in business involving politics is a zero change porposition. i am as liberal as probably anyone in here. I have seen with my own eyes for too long that politicians value nothing involving the right thing to do, they dont value honestly, and they do not value human lives. keeping power and obtaining money is all that matters. Life is about leverage, whether you are a good guy or a bad guy, leverage is what you have, your job, your behaviors, what you own, how you act. is all based on leverage. the bengals may be the most ethical behaving nfl franchise in history. but are called cheap and greedy, its like no one has ever seen another franchise operate, how they treat staff, players, the cities, etc.

i hope this is good. should be.. with the mannings involved...

lmao, ive been part of friends and family there MANY times, never once was i in a parking lot, and this was mid 2000's over a few years, been the guests of both players and coaches and other staff before.. never was i in a parking lot. you know what there is tho? limits. so if youre bringing 12 people to the game, they all cant come hang with you, and if you didnt give the passes for your daughters because you gave it to your parents and grandparents and agent and brother and sister... thats on you. if each player and staff could bring 10 people, youre talking 1,000 people to deal with. this stadium was built 30 years ago, sofi can accommodate 5000 guests in its back rooms and dungeons and stuff, also has several media halls for postgame or post show stuff. the space doesnt exist.. youve seen them have to rip out one room or set of offices just to expact weight rooms right? we all have seen the photos. you have all seen within 10 ft of every single side of the stadium is a street used everday right? where we building the room for 800+ friends and family? i think they should have it.. but im not a dumbass and know when the thing was built, the limitations of space AND expansion. just cut ties with cincinnati, move it to kentucky, youll get the funding, pick a field, build it all there. Can it fit where tri county mall is? that space is useless. or stop complaining and be realistic. ALSO, lets not pretend if the bengals hit the city with "hey we need 3 million more to build a special structure to fit into this cramped space so more family members can hang out after the game" the city, EVERYONE OF YOUR IN HERE TALKING SHIT, the city, media, everyone would laugh at how stupid that is. or go take a tour and let me know where you see endless empty space in there that could be used for all these things right now. they can take away fan parking if you want. built it where player parking is, remove the road between the practice fields, move player parking over there? where yall want this to go? again.. they should have these things. but where you gonna put them?

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agreed. tho, the fact there is a verified premium paid twitter account called NFL FASHION ADVICE is seemingly an example of societal problems that i cannot quite put my finger on.

they made him a 2 and a 3 year extension offers, that i know. i THINK he wants the 2 year number for 3 years. I think they fucked up making the 2 year offer. as i am under the impression it was about 2-2.5 mil more per year, for obvious age reasons. things i know + things i think = 2 years 62mil and 3 years 85.5mil are the two offers. guarantees basically at 50% of total deal. i think he is taking the stance of "if im worth 2/$62 im worth 3/93mil. coming into the office with no agent, for a "face to face" like a spoiled athlete who has never been told no before. told to his face that these are the offers and they arent going to change, at all, this is it. want you here but this is what we feel is fair. he goes home, grumpy not getting his way, agent calls, bengals tell him the same. then he starts dropped "no communication" bullshit. yeah man what is there to communicate.. you need told for the 10th time that these are the offers? he's acting like a girl who just got broke up with and just wants to "talk" until he gets his way, the bengals dont play that shit, so he goes public, aka tells his girlfriends how bad a person the bengals are for not wanting to talk to him. you know its true, but its more fun to trash the team. I assume he caves as he does the math that clearing $1mil per week sounds so much better than clearing $400k, if he plays it out and drops to even 14 sacks, he isnt likely to make that money up on the market next year. as for the topic at hand.. I assume Stewert signs first as well, for the simple fact that the shit they are crying about is slowly and finally making its way around that its very common in a large amount of deals these days, and since no money can be disputed, theyll slowly appear as the villains and get the deal signed. I must say its disheartening to see players and family members year after year across the league not understand how anything works, being duped by agents wanting to get their name in the news on the guise of "fighting for their client" so they gain new clients, happy to slander, pointlessly, the bengals, who have clearly offered a standard deal that most other teams offer the same way, becuase the lazy fans and media will hop on it no problem. #403-479-5-never forget

lmao @T-Dub you saw this and were like "fuck yeah these small accounting decisions which prevent overpaying, DIDNT make the team better, SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON BIG DAWG. this thread is too much. wait till yall find out about the teams overall record for the last 55 years... and they made wise busniess decisions unrelated to on field product? fuck... get the pitchforks warmed up... front office is stoked about those losses in 1973, like they dont even care about the losses in 1985 or something... insane... DID THEY EVEN GET BETTER WITH THE OVERALL TEAM RECORD IN HISTORY BEING WHAT IT IS?!?!??!

LMAO value of what? on the market free for 31 teams to offer, he got about half what he made and only a 1 year deal and even that small paycheck is a small chunk based on playing time (just over 10% of the deal). do all of the other teams not have film from last year? they dont have his stats?poker face for what? Bengals: ahh yes fellow teams, we have this GREAT LB, whom is easily replaced with early/mid round draft picks for pennies, we would sure hate to partwith him, but if someone wanting to give us some draft picks or eyeblack markers, we could be perswaded form parting with this *reads from a note* this nfl starting caliber good linebacker we have" NFl Teams: WHAT?!?!?!? give them picks NOW, they said he is good, its WILD they wanna part ways with him.. i wont watch film or look at his production, give thm a 6th rounder NOW.. no way this guy who wasnt in the top 100 linebackers hits the market!!111 lmao. now im mad, why didnt they trade volson for a second rounder instead of offering a pay cut? idiot bengals and their dumb lack of poker face.. could prolly got a third rounder for Moss and stone each too i guess... fucking bengals.

Pratt was the 111th overall LB last season. Pratt was the 122d pass rush LB last season Pratt was the 125th coverage Lb last season Pratt was the 63rd run defense Lb last season. not sure many teams are looking at his age, recent performance, and thinking he is a starter..he is likely a mediocre depth piece no one takes much risk on. Bengals pay guys what they are worth within the marketplace. all 3 of them chose to take pay cuts instead of hitting the open market, all three of those players decided they were better off at the lower salary than testing the waters of free agency.. thats really all you need to know. how would overpaying guys make the team better? what kind of question is that? this is the nonsense fans keep spewing as if this isnt a multi billion dollar organization making decisions, making mountains out of mundane accounting decisions that are without a doubt CLEARLY the right move to make. wtf i the point of this dumbass shit? their decision on who handles the plumbing didnt make the team better, the decision on the painting crew for the tunnels didnt make the team better. its a fucking business and those are sound logical business decisions. wtf is wrong with yall? lol, a worthless organization in turmoil paying him less than we saved after a cap hit, over 10% of which is a playing time bonus, sounds about right for his recent on field production.

not really. "lou was fired because he didnt do ____" thats really it.. what else is being said? he had a makeshift group of backups to work with, and he left young players on the bench for worse veterans who were "smarter". those things happened.. who is piling on? whats being said that isnt true? and for the love of god what does the all time franchise record have to do with anything? dude what are you even talking about.. yeah man they are all in the offices with the all time team record on the wall giving eachother high fives.. wtf are you even talking about? what does 30 years ago have to do with katie troy and taylor? nothing.. wtf are you talking about. good lord man.. wtf is going on. i dont know what any of those things are.. obviously i assume some good defenses before color tv was invented? 😀 man im 44 and have no idea who was on those teams/groups even.. i mostly agree that players are the key, having good ones usually equals success, but there some great examples of coaches with no name uys around one good palyer winnig a ton. tom brady got a bunch of undersized white guys a ton of money and rings.. id imagine the coaches had something to do with that as well. i see last year as the defense was fucked with injuries, and also Lou halted progress with how he handles the young players and snaps and his scheme with who he had. both were bad. like when? about who? we just making shit up again? i bet this has to do with the teams all time record, doesnt it?

I have been dying for content to obsorb this offseason that isnt some dumbass talking about flags or a 7 minute podcast monologue intro that makes me want to swerve off a bridge on my way to work (you know you are paul). Bengals Booth had a PFF guy on, and at first i felt i was going to hate it, but he was pretty realistic with draft picks, the important metrics for certain positions, at first i thought he was going to glaze the Stewert pick, then i thought he was going to trash it and honestly in the end it was an even keel fair assessment. I will get to the point of the title shortly, i swear. The stewert assessment is essentially: His sacks are low but thats not that vital of a stat, but there is a reason for it His pressure rate is incredibly high which is a great sign His individual win rate is middle of the pack, that of an average veteran long term DE in the league. (the rate at which you beat your guy whether you have a chance to get a sack or not). The last one is an interesting stat. and it indicates he is currently not a star level player. But he mentions players like Aaron Rodgers who are getting the ball out in 2-2.5 seconds, even a trey hendrickson winning in 1.5-2 seconds still isnt getting a sack maybe not even a pressure, due to the ball being released immediately. The bengals speaking on Stewert right after the draft talking about fine tuning his hands and winning tools, so thats there logic here. worst case they likely have a solid long term DE who should be in the league a long time, and if they can improve his skillset/tools then he can be a star level player with his traits. i think we all knew the second part with the high pick number, but i had not considered the first part, as he was good against the run, athletic and sound, so he isnt a boom or bust guy, thats just another lazy take resting completely on sack numbers alone. ANYWAY. the top is actually about Geno Stone, the guy broke down the data of Stone earlier in the league before joining the bengals, essentially he performed really well in single high safety situations, and not as well in double high/cover 2 situations. Loud runs lots of cover 2 and 2 high safety looks. So whats the deal here? Stones comments make even more sense now when he talked about Lou this offseason without saying more, comments like "i was put in some situations" talking about his underperformance, and why he feels this season will be better for him, post Lou's firing. So should the bengals not have signed him? Should Lou have used him differently? The Bengals obviously had this information and without a doubt Lou had this information, both knowing his strengths and weaknesses. Is the team responsible to ONLY gather players that fit the scheme perfectly? Is the Coach responsible to fit his scheme around the players he has? Honestly it has to be both, IMO, the PFF guy said "Al Golden will absolutely build his scheme around the guys he has on the roster, he did already run single high a lot at Notre Dame" so it made me wonder, was Lou really that stubborn? should the bengals have acted differently in acquiring players (did they go after others and this was the best that agreed to sign here?). etc. Thoughts?

unpinning this due to lack of forth coming events, feel free to repin if we disagree.

laziness. no one researches anymore, like 3 guys have inside info, if that, aside from that the "media" isnt exactly filled with people who have degrees in journalism, worked thier way up, build relationships, its a bunch of dudes like you and me, who started a youtube podcast, and just have done it the longest, hell i had a media pass for the bengals just from having this forum back in the day. and thats when there was KIND of some criteria to meet.. I could get a media pass today, no problem. so you cant possible watch any of these podcast or media twitter accounts and think these guys are leaving their office chair and actually doing stuff right? even at practice and camp, 5-20 media folks stand there with their iphones, record clips for twitter, joke with eachother, talk about lunch, use said phone to poorly record interviews, all think the same thing, and post it.. they need followers they need hits, they need shares, they need subscribers.. the #1 only thing they do not need what so ever.. is to be right or put in effort or learn anything. the bengals PR team sends them information to release, and they do it, rarely, as the bengals dont do contract stuff in the media, but other things, health stuff signing stuff, etc.. then agents reach out, look at the video i posted... Dingleberry did his own fact checking and contract details around the league.. the stewerts agent reached out to him, pissed and got him to sway back some.. why? because goodberry needs that connect, and if he does his bidding a little, when goodberry reaches out, the agent might reply. 15 years ago, guys would chase down family members, get a cousin to leak info, fat boy andre smiths agent, alvin keels emailed me then text me wanting me to post positive stuff about him during the contract issues, and the proof? it works. look at all of you, look at everyone on social media.. they dont care about any of the facts, its easy and lazy to zap the bengals, they wont dispute or fight back, they ignore it.. so they are easy to slander.. and everyone gets an east post, podcast episode (or 10), no one cares about the facts or details, not even a little bit. no one cares about anything, they just wanna check a box for their day, get some clicks if possible, and go back to doom scrolling on instagram and twitter. all of the sports media, scouts sites, analysts, all for show and clicks, look at collinsowrth, he doesnt give a fuck about anything, he wants some zingers for the show and to go home. and everyone behaves as if we have good reliable crack journalism. its laughable. how many different stories over what the "language" in the contract relates to have been posted in this thread alone? 8? 5? a whole lot more than 1... how many weeks did it take for ANYONE to bring to light that the language is in the majority of first round contracts, its just new for the bengals to add it.... ? hell the hundred or so people who supposidly love and follow the team and gobble every media tidbit there is, still think mike brown is in these contract negotiations. people believe what they want. facts arent a part of the equation any longer. havent been in 10 years.

this must be an RSS feed or something, i havent posted shit.. i been getting emails about people posting articles and the links are all broken as awell..

whats the date, realistically, that any of this actually matters? First day of camp? First preseason game? First regular season game? Its tough to pretend it matters before camp. he was involved in everything except slapping some tackle dummies around so far.. so i cant force myself to be upset so far..