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1 hour ago, dex said:
Wonder if the Bengals would pass on a prospect because his agent is very difficult to deal with?
Muleghetta, the agent who represented both Bates and Higgins, also represents Taliese Fuega.
That would be very petty and stupid...ultimately the player makes the decisions, not the agents so blaming the agents is misguided, they are fiduciaries, not decision-makers.
If Bates wanted to be a Bengal he would be, if Tee wanted to sign a long-term deal he would... the agent just gets his clients the best deals possible.
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If I were a GM of a NFL franchise I would prioritize my draft board based on the following:
- Rounds 1 and 2 would be players that have a mix of high levels of production and athletic potential, as these are the players that most likely to have success in the NFL.
- Rounds 3 and 4 would be players that have a high level of production over athletic potential, as I feel that production trumps athletic potential and this is proven by HOF players who are marginal athletes but are football savants and know how to play the game at a high level. There are plenty of great athletes that can't play football.
- Rounds 5-7 would be freak athletes that need to be coached up, basically taking a flyer on these guys to see if you can develop them.
My overall draft strategy would prioritize production over athletic ability as production is the best way to determine if someone will be successful at the NFL level. Too often teams fall in love with an athletic freak that didn't produce at a high-level college and it doesn't work out in the NFL.
I would love to hear your draft strategy if you were running an NFL draft as a GM/Director of Personnel.
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On 4/12/2024 at 7:19 PM, sparky151 said:
And only 24 of his 712 snaps last year were in the A gap (with 13 of those in 1 game). He had 60 snaps in a B gap and the rest were over or outside a tackle. That's why PFF rates him as an Edge player. We're well stocked there. Signing him wouldn't help us at NT.
I'm aware, but he can do it. At this point he's the best option available, it's either him or an unproven rookie. Maybe someone will get cut before the season starts or they will make a trade like they did for Hill.
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18 minutes ago, sparky151 said:
Campbell is way past his prime. He's very tall and was was a very good player in his day. He's also a former NFL Man of the Year. But he doesn't move well these days.
Not sure he's better than Josh Tupou at this point.
LOL...That's a clown statement bro...look at his stats from last year...he balled out.
https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/calais-campbell/4364
Tupou has never had a season with 47 tackles, 7 sacks, a FF..that's a career for him.
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Just sign Calais Campbell and get it over with already...he's monster that can play the run and pass well. He played in a 4-3 in Jax...get er done!!
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23 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
The Bengals picks from the aforementioned Sporting News 7 round Mock ...
18. Cincinnati Bengals (9-8)
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J.C. Latham, OT, Alabama (6-6, 342 pounds)
The Bengals moved on from Jonah Williams and Orlando Brown Jr. didn't come through as expected, so going for Latham to protect Joe Burrow is smart.
49. Cincinnati Bengals
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Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan (5-8, 182 pounds)
The Bengals didn't re-sign Chidobe Awuzie, but they should be OK trying to replace him by getting the former Wolverines teammate of other starter D.J. Turner.
80. Cincinnati Bengals
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Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas (6-4, 245 pounds)
The Bengals did re-sign Drew Sample and add Mike Gesicki to their tight end room, but they still need more athletic, nside pass-catching options with Tyler Boyd not re-signed. Sanders has loads of potential as a short-to-intermediate target.
97. Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory)
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Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville (6-0, 188 pounds)
The Bengals should think about adding this pass-catcher with some dangerous big-play skills to help replace Tyler Boyd directly after taking a tight end shot on Ja'Tavion Sanders.
115. Cincinnati Bengals
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Cole Bishop, S, Utah (6-2, 206 pounds)
149. Cincinnati Bengals
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Dallin Holker, TE, Colorado State (6-3, 241 pounds)
194. Cincinnati Bengals
- Myles Murphy, DT, North Carolina (6-4, 309 pounds)
214. Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory)
- Michael Wiley, RB, Arizona (5-10, 210 pounds)
224. Cincinnati Bengals (from Cardinals through Texans)
- Jaxon Janke, WR, South Dakota State (6-2, 210 pounds)
237. Cincinnati Bengals
- Evan Anderson, DT, FAU (6-3, 326 pounds)
basura ....no way they Bengals draft 2 TEs....the sporting news should just stop doing this pointless exercise as it's just embarrassing.
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55 minutes ago, spicoli said:
Guys like him are just easy to slot is all. The league has always been “skeptical” of fat guys, it’s nothing new.You're a fatist...guys like him...what is that supposed to mean...
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1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:
The experience factor is the main thing. If he is all that and a bag of chips, one would think he would have been starting sooner. If that were solely due to injuries, then that is another area to ponder
He is certainly a physically gifted player, and at 18, not that much of a reach (if that is even applicable). If he is going to develop, that would be evident in the first season.
Not that huge of a risk.
Keep in mind he was playing behind future NFL players, so that's why he was sitting. The starting LT and RT were both drafted in the 2023 draft with Jones going in the first round and McClendon going in the 5th round, but he was still getting playing time early in the games. It's very rare that one team has two OT's drafted so that does explain why Mims didnt' start as much as some of the other top prospects in this draft.
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11 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Cedric's selling point coming out was his arm length (which was 34"). Which is larger than average yes, but seems small compared to Mims' and Paul's other worldly 36".
Cedric was also injured the year prior as Mims was. But really to me they are totally different players. Mim's looks like he was carved on Mount Olympus, while Cedric looked like a schlub. Mim's also has very light feet like a ballerina, Cedric did not.
Mims is a powerful player, whereas Cedric was not. I remember watching training camp downtown in 2014 and saw Dunlap pick up Cedric off the ground and plant him in the dirt with a simple one-handed power move, it was embarrassing...Cedric's shoulders were the first thing to hit the ground, at that moment I realized he was in over his head and would struggle to play OT in the NFL.
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29 minutes ago, gupps said:
For some reason Mims reminds me of Cedric Ogbuehi and I have no idea why. Give me Fuaga (probably not happening) or Latham. I double dip in the 3rd also with an interior lineman
Mims is not like Ogbeuhi...he comes from a much better program where he practiced against and with future and current NFL players every day and is a physical freak of nature. Drafting him in the first round and allowing him to sit behind Trent Brown would be an ideal situation.
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The Bengals better draft an OT in the first round or miss out one, there a 4-5 really good OT's in this draft and after that the talent falls off a cliff..waiting until pick 49 will be too long.
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On 4/5/2024 at 7:33 PM, SF2 said:
Diggs averaged 40 yards a game the second half of last year. The Bills went 6-2. He isn’t all that.
He was getting double-teamed because he was their best weapon, if you look at Josh Allens' stats before he came to Buffalo you will see his impact. The Bills decimated their team, especially their WR corps this offseason so we will see how good Allen really is.
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2 hours ago, Griever said:
Yep...I think the days of picking the smaller, perceived more "athletic" tackles are over for now. Think about Jonah, his measurements we're 6'4", just over 300 lbs.
Compare that with Mims like you said...now we're talking absolute mountains at Tackle
Jonah should be playing G, that's his ideal position in the NFL. He's playing out of position at T as he's not strong enough to physically overpower the modern DE or big enough to make hard from them to go around or athletic enough to keep up with them. He would be a good G, but his ego will not allow him to play that position.
I hope he has success in AZ though, he was a warrior for the Bengals and gave it his all...
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17 hours ago, BlackJesus said:
Whenever the dream is about to die, they sprinkle a tiny glimmer of hope on it ...
Jefferson is definitely going to be a Bengal, the Bengals will trade Tee Higgins for him on draft day...watch..
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42 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:
Don't see that being the case and not because of this move. They had to punt like half of their defense off the roster just to get cap compliant and currently only have $4M of cap space this year and $6M next year. $55M of dead cap this year, with Diggs bein $31M of it. They don't even have a 3rd round pick in this draft either so no capital to move up in the 1st round.
I seem to recall Beane saying he'd never want to be in a position to draft a Ja'Marr Chase because that means you'd have to go through some lean years. Seems like the tax man has come to collect on that receipt, if he doesn't get fired first.
Josh Allen can't QB sneak his way to the playoffs because this current crop of receivers isn't scaring anyone and they will struggle to get open. Cutting Diggs was a cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face kind of move that could spell the end of the road for Beane and the coaching staff. If Buffalo struggles, because they are the 3rd best team in their division right now, and miss the playoffs then you can see the clear regression from the Bills. They went from Super Bowl darlings a few years ago to a team that is a shell of its former self.
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6 hours ago, claptonrocks said:
Yes .
He's a head problem...
I think the happiest Bill after this trade is Josh Allen..
Josh Allen was a mid-level player before Diggs came to town.
Allen's QB rating, comp %, TDs, Yards, games won, etc...all went up dramatically when Diggs played with him. Allen is going to have to prove that he can win without Diggs
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43 minutes ago, Griever said:
Tee is tagged, 99% sure he won't sit out (rarely pays off). Draft a WR, see how Charlie and Andrei develop. If still WR needy next season, repeat. Tag him again. If he produces well, the cost of the two tag years makes sense. Plus it's guaranteed money for Tee.
I doubt they would tag him again, that's paying a ton of money, almost $45 million, to a guy in 2 seasons to be the #2 WR. Also, they will do a long-term deal with JaMarr in the next 12 months which will preclude them from tagging Tee again. You can't pay 2 WRs $20+ million each, no team in the NFL is capable of doing that.
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Trading Tee Higgins makes no sense for the Bengals, he's worth more to us than any draft pick at this point. No rookie WR is going to come in and have the same impact of Tee Higgins unless it's one of the top 3 WRs in the draft and even that is arguable. I don't think any team is going to give the Bengals a first-round pick for Tee so trading him for a 2nd pick when you can probably get a 3rd round comp pick in the future.
Tee will have to stay in Cincy and get his $21 million, as long he doesn't have a career ending injury he will hit FA and get even more money ala Jessie Bates. Bates has made $36 million in the last two seasons, so the franchise tag worked out well for him.
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6 hours ago, T-Dub said:
Don't have a problem with any of that, the roster is a different subject. I'm simply tired of hearing the players reference a Super Bowl 2 years ago that they lost. They barely managed 9-8 last year.
I think they could win one this season if they can lock it in and quit talking like they've already done it. Seem a little too up on themselves for a group that just lost every division game that mattered.
Think Zac needs to sit them down day one of camp and give them a reality check. They were average last year. That's what all the yapping earns them.
You're not putting any context into this, they were 9-8 mainly because the starting QB was hurt for all but 2 games he played in last year. If Burrow is healthy this team has proven to be one of the best in the NFL.
I believe they have the best offensive line since Burrow has been in NFL and the offense is tailored made for him, he has a pass blocking RB and his former QB coach is now the OC.
This could definitely be the year they win it all because they will be playing the last place schedule so it will be a weaker schedule than previous years as well, not that it matters because...
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I hope the Bengals go after Calais Campbell, he's the best option that is available. I know he's 37 years old but he's still playing at a high level and is a great locker room guy that any young player they bring in can learn from.
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10 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:
Where we’re at is no different than the past 3 years. We still have a legitimate chance to win it all, but the division is the toughest in the league and the AFC is loaded. That’s reality, not an excuse. It may or may not end up how we want but there’s no games till September. The roster isn’t even close to being finished and it’s very reasonable to like what has happened to this point. Especially when guys like Mixon and Jonah are no longer here as many people wanted.I don't think that losing Mixon and Jonah necessarily makes us that much better as both of those guys were critical to the recent success that has justified our excitement of the current path of the Bengals. They have been replaced, but it remains to be seen if their replacements are upgrades.
I agree that the roster is dynamic and will hopefully add more depth and another playmaker at TE and WR before opening day.
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12 hours ago, happyrid said:
Need to draft a WR early too. Good ones are getting crazy expensive in FA.
The Browns are screwing the rest of the NFL, that Jerry Jeudy deal is nuts...
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2 hours ago, BlackJesus said:
Fiske really flashes on tape ...
I love to see him next to Henderickson and have those two just play like madmen...With Fiske, Henderickson, and Hubbard we would have the scrappiest, high-motor gamers who play the game the right way with good fundamentals and are sneaky athletic lunch pail guys who are heady and gritty..
https://awfulannouncing.com/2014/your-white-guy-code-word-power-rankings.html
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25 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:
I have probably mentioned this before; I watch mostly west coast college football--and Oregon State in particular. Don't be fooled: Fuaga is as natural a RT as you will find anywhere. He gets higher "grades" for run blocking, but my eyes didn't deceive me watching him pass block. Big man...anchors superbly...deft enough to stay with edge rushers, and rarely gets swim moved inside. Long time starter also. No "breaking in" like Mims.
Forget the guard stuff--this is a tackle.
Any thoughts on the kid from BYU that is related to Penei Sewell...Kingsley Abunchofvowels...or something like that.
These Nigerian and Polynesian players' last names have got me like...
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2024 NFL Mock Draft
in THE BENGALS FORUM - For Bengals Fans *Only*
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The Bengals can outbid other teams, they are allowed to do that...lol..