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  1. 43 minutes ago, Griever said:

    Tee is tagged, 99% sure he won't sit out (rarely pays off). Draft a WR, see how Charlie and Andrei develop. If still WR needy next season, repeat. Tag him again. If he produces well, the cost of the two tag years makes sense. Plus it's guaranteed money for Tee.

     

    I doubt they would tag him again, that's paying a ton of money, almost $45 million, to a guy in 2 seasons to be the #2 WR. Also, they will do a long-term deal with JaMarr in the next 12 months which will preclude them from tagging Tee again. You can't pay 2 WRs $20+ million each, no team in the NFL is capable of doing that. 

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  2. Trading Tee Higgins makes no sense for the Bengals, he's worth more to us than any draft pick at this point. No rookie WR is going to come in and have the same impact of Tee Higgins unless it's one of the top 3 WRs in the draft and even that is arguable. I don't think any team is going to give the Bengals a first-round pick for Tee so trading him for a 2nd pick when you can probably get a 3rd round comp pick in the future. 

     

    Tee will have to stay in Cincy and get his $21 million, as long he doesn't have a career ending injury he will hit FA and get even more money ala Jessie Bates. Bates has made $36 million in the last two seasons, so the franchise tag worked out well for him. 

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  3. 6 hours ago, T-Dub said:

     

    Don't have a problem with any of that, the roster is a different subject. I'm simply tired of hearing the players reference a Super Bowl 2 years ago that they lost. They barely managed 9-8 last year. 

     

    I think they could win one this season if they can lock it in and quit talking like they've already done it. Seem a little too up on themselves for a group that just lost every division game that mattered.

     

    Think Zac needs to sit them down day one of camp and give them a reality check. They were average last year. That's what all the yapping earns them.

     

    You're not putting any context into this, they were 9-8 mainly because the starting QB was hurt for all but 2 games he played in last year. If Burrow is healthy this team has proven to be one of the best in the NFL. 

     

    I believe they have the best offensive line since Burrow has been in NFL and the offense is tailored made for him, he has a pass blocking RB and his former QB coach is now the OC. 

     

    This could definitely be the year they win it all because they will be playing the last place schedule so it will be a weaker schedule than previous years as well, not that it matters because...

     

     

     

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  4. 10 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:


    Where we’re at is no different than the past 3 years.  We still have a legitimate chance to win it all, but the division is the toughest in the league and the AFC is loaded.  That’s reality, not an excuse.  It may or may not end up how we want but there’s no games till September.  The roster isn’t even close to being finished and it’s very reasonable to like what has happened to this point.  Especially when guys like Mixon and Jonah are no longer here as many people wanted.  

     

    I don't think that losing Mixon and Jonah necessarily makes us that much better as both of those guys were critical to the recent success that has justified our excitement of the current path of the Bengals.  They have been replaced, but it remains to be seen if their replacements are upgrades. 

     

    I agree that the roster is dynamic and will hopefully add more depth and another playmaker at TE and WR before opening day. 

  5. 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

    Fiske really flashes on tape ...

     

     

    I love to see him next to Henderickson and have those two just play like madmen...With Fiske, Henderickson, and Hubbard we would have the scrappiest, high-motor gamers who play the game the right way with good fundamentals and are sneaky athletic lunch pail guys who are heady and gritty..

     

    https://awfulannouncing.com/2014/your-white-guy-code-word-power-rankings.html

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  6. 25 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

    I have probably mentioned this before; I watch mostly west coast college football--and Oregon State in particular. Don't be fooled: Fuaga is as natural a RT as you will find anywhere. He gets higher "grades" for run blocking, but my eyes didn't deceive me watching him pass block. Big man...anchors superbly...deft enough to stay with edge rushers, and rarely gets swim moved inside. Long time starter also. No "breaking in" like Mims. 

     

    Forget the guard stuff--this is a tackle. 

     

    Any thoughts on the kid from BYU that is related to Penei Sewell...Kingsley Abunchofvowels...or something like that.

     

    These Nigerian and  Polynesian players' last names have got me like...

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  7. 6 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

    Did they offer Becton a contract?  At work and did not see it if they did.

    BUT... all's well that ends well and glad Brown is here.

     

    They did from what I could tell, but he wanted to weigh his options and left town without signing it. I know in years past players and their agents would come to Cincy to set a market and drum up interest only to get another team to sign them for a similar deal..not sure if that was Becton's play but thankfully the door on him going to this team has closed. 

     

    Sounds like he took this opportunity for granted, it will be interesting to see where he lands. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

    And, this time of year especially after the first week flurry, it is all about the coin/length of deal/guarantees. These guys—and especially their agents—no long care about “playing with Joe”. As long as the moolah is right, they couldn’t care less about the team. If it happens to be a contending one, icing on the cake. But neither Brown or Becton is demanding “I have to be here!”

     

    To your point, the guys who say that come off like used car salesmen trying to sell you a lemon...i.e. La'El Collins getting a Bengals tattoo and talking all this stuff about being a bodyguard when he knew he was banged up and couldn't play well...he was trying to win over the fanbase and provide cover for when he got on the field it was obvious he's a liability.

     

    It's a business and these guys are independent contractors, so maximizing their earning potential is paramount. 

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  9. 34 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

     

    That is interesting. I wonder if he wanted to play LT. I also wonder if he will cost more. 

     

    Brown is pretty clearly much steadier in terms of play and even durability than Becton. 

     

    I'm sure he wants more money than Becton, but with the increase in the cap and Jonah's salary coming off the books that shouldn't have been a factor.

     

    The Bengals should be trying to get the absolute best 5 players they can get to play offensive line, not who the mediocre at best offensive line coach has a relationship with...seriously, what are they doing???

  10. If Brown is such an obvious upgrade over Becton, who didn't want to play here...why did the Bengals not target Brown from the beginning of FA, like why waste time on a lesser player like Becton?

     

    Is it purely because of the Frank Pollack connection, because if so that is a huge waste of time and misstep? This idea that Pollack was going to rehab Becton's career is hilarious because he hasn't been able to develop one decent starter out of the 7 draft picks the Bengals have used on the offensive line in the past 5 years. These are talented players who have all the tools to be successful but Pollack has only managed to get one to start, and he's the worst player on the offensive line, a legit liability that should be replaced. 

     

    The Bengals wasted a whole week on Becton when they should have been targeting Brown from the beginning, but better late than never...I guess...let's hope they get a deal done with Brown. 

  11. 26 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

     

    Actually I watched some highlights, he's got good feet and showed some moves.  He's not just out there being a boulder in the middle of the line, dude can pass rush or chase down RB's.  Showed some patience at times as well.  He looks persistent which I like to see from the DL, a lot of young guys will decide they're out of a play and jog it off.

     

    He's still just a prospect & I think would definitely benefit from being in a rotation while he gets up to NFL conditioning, but I wouldn't hate it at #18.

     

     

     

     

    My only concern with taking him at #18 is that he's run down only type of player and typically those guys aren't drafted in the first round, if he's there in the 2nd round then, yes, take him. 

     

    Also, to your point these big guys get worn down as the season goes along, he needs to be apart of a deep rotation. The Eagles drafted Jordan Davis in the top 10 last year and by the end of the season he was useless because he was playing more snaps at a higher level than he had ever played in his life. 

    3 minutes ago, alleycat said:

    Haha. After effects of my trauma from not taking Dawand Jones last year, who I went on the record saying was worth a first. 

     

    Yeah, I think he had a medical issue which is why he fell last year and he did end up getting hurt...Brown would be an ideal signing, but pairing him with a first-round rookie RT would be a huge get. 

     

    Just sign him to a big 1 year deal, similar to Collins, with tons of incentives on playing time. 

     

    Looks like Karras and Joey B are going back to Ruby's...it's a tough job but those steaks aren't going to eat themselves...lol

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  12. 38 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

    Trade Dax Hill for a NT? (since the S room is full and stacked now) 

     

    Bengals don't have many pieces they can move for a DT, as it will only leave another hole. 

     

    LOL...what...no...crazy man...why would we trade a former first-round pick that has played well enough and has a future on this team when they can sign or draft a NT. 

     

    44 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

    If the Bengals can't find another DT, I really think it pushes Sweat way up their draft board. Maybe even to 18. 

     

    I don't think the Bengals or any NFL team takes that approach to the draft, where they move a guy up their draft board because of who they are not able to sign in FA. If they did that they would over draft players consistently, which doesn't help the player or the team. A player gets a draft grade that is determined by their ability and production during college, not by who the team was able to sign in FA. It's called staying true to the draft board, doing what you are suggesting would get you fired. 

    18 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

    The word on Tart was that he was cut in Tenn because he was lazy and not wanting to put in effort. Sounds like his interview didn't make them feel that wasn't true.

     

    Not surprised that he's getting a bad rap, getting released by 2 teams in one season isn't a good look. Both teams need DTs and one team released him and another team didn't bother to bring him back, similar to Becton but not worse..imo. 

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  13. I like the Rankins signing, he will improve the interior pass rush but they need to get a run stuffer to combat the teams in this division that ran all over the defense last year. Having Bell back and adding Stone should improve the run defense but they need a space eater that can dominate the line of scrimmage. Not thrilled about expecting a rookie to come in and be that guy as there is a huge difference between the NFL and CFB when it comes to technique and strength on the lines of scrimmage. 

     

    Tart would be the next target as he's best player at position  of need. 

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  14. 50 minutes ago, texbengal said:

     

    Another first round bust.  Athletic guy, has had some starts but mainly due to injury of regular starters. Philly didn't pick up his 5th year option, went to FA - and Tennessee with an isht line didn't want him, after having had him last year. I'd pass. 
     

     

    #betterthanBecton

     

  15. I'm glad to see the Bengals brought back Vonn, he was a glue guy who made everyone better...I wish he would have never left, probably could have made the playoffs if he was here instead of that dumpster fire of a franchise in Carolina.

     

    The Bell, Stone, and Rankins signings are are all quality moves, just waiting to see what the front office does about RT...there weren't many options available going into FA and there are even fewer now. 

     

    I see that former first-round pick Andre Dillard was just cut by the Titans, the Bengals need to sign him ASAP

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