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PatternMaster

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  1. NFL.com had him as the 2nd ILB in the draft. He seems like a hard working, mature young man.

     

    NGL...I wanted Ratledge but I don't hate it. He can compete for a starting role or play ST.

     

    Married w/2 kids and he used to door dash after games to put food on the table, he's a grown man that will be dependable.  

     

    Stewart can get pressure but can't tackle, Knight can clean up and make sure to get guys on the ground. 

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  4. 34 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

    One of the things I think has the potential to change now is if FAs want to come here, and not just to play with Joe. When I was watching the response to the Tee/Jamar signings in the media, Keyshawn Johnson and Michael Irvin both said Cincinnati is a place when they were in the league even that nobody wanted to go because they knew they were not going to get paid, both of them said this changes that.

     

    To think it took the players and their agent holding the franchise hostage to drag them into the 21st century when it comes to team building is crazy. 

     

    If Burrow hadn't made an ultimatum of re-signing Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson and Geiski and Rocky Arceniuex ensuring that Chase and Higgins were a package deal then this would have never happened. 

     

    The Bengals still have work to do to improve the team, until then they need to keep changing the narrative and perception of the franchise. These deals should have been done a year ago, they cost themselves time and money by being "tough" in negotiations. 

     

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  6. 6 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

     

    And there's nothing wrong with the Slaton signing. It's the Hill and Ossai signings that are highly questionable. We could have had Sweat+Onwuzurike for about the cost of Hill, Ossai, and Pratt. 

     

    You're assuming they wanted to come here, there has to be mutual interest

     

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  7. Pearce us the speed rusher this team needs.

     

    Green is a lil too rapey for me

     

    Stewart doesn't have enough production 

     

    Nolen would be a depth player, the Bengals have more pressing needs on both sides of the ball than drafting a 2nd or 3rd stringer in the first round.

     

    Safety isn't a bigger need than DE so no Starks for me. 

     

    I really like the 2 DEs from OSU or Scrouton from A&M.

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  12. 15 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

    Bengals should seriously consider drafting Xavier Watts, who Al Golden knows very well. And let him wear #0. 

     

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    If Watts is there in the 2nd round I would take him, especially if they draft a DE in the first. He can come in and be a defense QB and make sure everyone is properly aligned, which was a big problem last year.

  13. 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

    My Thoughts

    1- Battle back and most likely starts

    2- Stone I assume we cut him we save 6.5M

    3-Bell I think is gone

    4-Anderson-I think we'd all love to see some snaps from scrimmage for him

    5-Key is back as futures

    6-Jules is back as a futures....I really like Jules, he has a future

    7-I think we will take the ND safety in the first round, I don't necessarily disagree that its too early but I think he will be seen as the centerpiece to make the D work. 


    I think they will give Stone a shot with a new DC that can adjust his scheme to match the players on the roster. It seems like Lou waited until the season was over to make adjustments and simplify things for guys like Stone, whose play improved towards the season. I agree that his tackling left a lot to be desired but he does have value in coverage, he has 11 ints in the past 2 seasons, which makes him 2nd in the NFL behind Kerby Joseph with 13. 

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  14. 10 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

    Would Vonn Bell bite on a 2.5 yr deal?

    I think he'd like to go for a championship with this team.

    Be nice to have him as a reserve.


    Bell is slow af, I be surprised if any team picked him up. I think his playing days are done. 

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  18. The Bengals should go all in on Baun, I would cut Pratt and give Baun a big contract with early guaranteed money. Our LB play was extremely inconsistent last year and Baun would be a big-time upgrade over Pratt, teaming him with Wilson will be a great combo. 

    https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/2/23/24359809/zack-baun-bengals-coach-mike-hodges-eagles

     

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    “He had a lot of influence on my game,” Baun said via Bengals.com. “From the jump during COVID, he was helping me out, obviously making that transition from on the ball to off the ball. Great coach. Very detail-oriented and even better person. A friend for life.”

     

    Hodges coached Baun while the two were with the Saints. Hodges was named the team’s linebackers coach the same year they selected Baun in the third round out of Wisconsin. While with the Badgers, Baun was a linebacker but was used more as a defensive end and pass rusher. When he was selected by the Saints, he had to make the transition to NFL linebacker.

     

    Baun didn’t have a ton of success with the Saints, only starting 14 games through his time in New Orleans. He signed a one-year deal with the Eagles in early 2024 and had a breakout season.

     

    Baun started 16 games and finished the season with 3.5 sacks, 151 tackles, five forced fumbles, and four passes defensed. He made First Team All-Pro and has set himself up nicely to sign a big deal, either in Philadelphia or elsewhere.

     

     

    For a new coach, getting players they are familiar with is a big plus, especially if it's an All-Pro coming in the door with a Super Bowl ring. 

  19. New York No GIF by Talk Stoop

     

    Wait I missed it..what r u apologizing for...u know what, nevermind 

     

    Whose going to apologize to Sam Hubbard for the slander his good name has suffered recently? That's what the "collective" really wants to know,.

     

    When is BJ going to apologize for not finishing the Whodeyian Chronicles because he was busy getting his PHD...that was like 20 years ago..still waiting. 

     

    When is Oldschooler going to apologize to me for being wrong so often?

     

    Or Go going to apologize to John Thornton for crashing his message board and taking his idea???? 

     

     

    :ninja:

  20. 15 hours ago, sparky151 said:

     

    Teams get better by replacing players like Sam with someone more capable, whether a rookie or vet. 

     

     

    Eagles defer cap hits as much as possible. They'll likely move on from Bradberry and Huff this offseason, maybe Slay as well. Eagles draft much better than the Bengals so they have that going for them and their GM is more creative. They also have ownership which stays in its lane (checkwriting) and doesn't try to run the front office with various relatives. 

     

    The cap deferrals might mean they get cap constrained in the future. But they also may be able to manage their way through it. They currently have an inexpensive defense with lots of good players on rookie and low-cost deals. That allowed them to get great value for money and led them to the Super Bowl this year. Bengals aren't really ready to match up with the Eagles as we saw in the regular season. At some point, they'll have to pay Jalen Carter, Quinyon Mitchell, etc. But it may be after Lane Johnson, Dallas Goedert, etc are gone. 

     

    The Bengals are a better team with a healthy Sam Hubbard. He's a leader on and off the field, a Cincinnati guy that stands up for all of the city....that means something to the Bengals, the business community, and the fans

     

    Also, you have no clue if the Eagles will release those players, that's all pure conjecture to fit your argument. 

     

    Laurie runs the Eagles like modern business, you hit the nail on the head. He hires smart people like Howie Rosemond gets out of the way, he doesn't fancy himself a football man because of his dad or grandfather's accomplishments...it's a meritocracy

     

    15 hours ago, sparky151 said:

     

    Well yes, the team would like the community to vote them more money along with extending the very team-friendly lease.

     

    Of course players should be released when they can no longer play to the level they were at previously. Hubbard has been playing on 1 leg for a couple of seasons now. When healthy, he was an above average run defender but never much of a pass rusher. He only rarely beat his man, he got some sacks when his teammate flushed the QB in his direction. 

     

     

    Hubbard on 1 leg was very much deadweight. Ossai outperformed him over the last half of the season. I agree with releasing Cappa, Rankins, Volson, and Moss. But Hubbard too and probably Stone and Pratt. 

     

    Hubbard played well in 2023, not sure where this narrative is coming from that he's  holding the team back or dead weight...he's 8th all time on the franchise sack list and only 5 sacks from being in the top 5..

     

    I can't wait to see everyone that wanted him gone eat crow when he comes back healthy in 2025.

     

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  23. 13 hours ago, LostInDaJungle said:

    He's been a part of Bengals defense that has failed to do that pretty consistently.

    And that's the basic job. Yes, he can do the basic job. Mostly. At best, he comes back healthy and is a slightly above average DE again. Who, to be fair, has shown up in big moments.

    That's a position we need to get much younger at quickly either way. Murphy can be just as effective setting the edge. Time to clear out the old growth and let Murphy battle a draft pick (or FA) for the honor of being named starter. Hubbard would be better served with less reps at this point in his career anyway. Guy has more braces on his body than Forrest Gump.

    Hubbard, at best is an expensive luxury. I have no issue with keeping him, but if he's your excuse for why the Bengals are out of money... Why are you not extending Hendrickson?? To keep Sam Hubbard because he's a good dude? Why are you not resigning Tee? Because good ol' Sammy signed your wife's tits once?? Sam Hubbard at his current best still leaves the defense needing to upgrade LE. Hubbard has been pretty average throughout.

    Really, it's not even a problem for Sam Hubbard if he's worth his current contract on the open market. Tell Trey you want to cut him and he's popping champagne. If you think it's "mean", you're admitting he's not worth what we pay him. And really... He's only going to make $4 million plus a year with some other team. Bummer. He'll have to fill up with regular unleaded.  

    I have zero interest in being the nicest team to never win a Super Bowl.

     

    Who said Hubbard was the reason the reason are poor? Rankins is making the same amount as Hubbard, who would you rather have?

     

    Cappa, Rankins, Volson, and Moss should get cut before Hubbard. That almost 30 million in cap savings by cutting those 4 players. 

     

    This idea that Hubbard is some albatross around the Bengals neck is silly. He's not dead weight or the reason why Hendrickson, Chase, or Higgins haven't gotten new deals.

  24. On 2/7/2025 at 2:27 PM, T-Dub said:

     

    But he shows up for every community photo op!

     

    That's very important if you're running a charity trust fund that also manages a football team. Win-win!

     

    You're joking but that does matter. The team wants it's players to be good ambassadors in the community that they rely on for support. 

     

    On 2/7/2025 at 12:41 PM, Inigo Montoya said:

    Counterpoint:  Hubbard has been washed for two years and is not a starting caliber player at this point.

     

    Blame it on injuries or whatever else but it’s painfully obvious to everyone who has watched him play.  
     

    He needs to take a steep pay cut or he’s getting released.

     

    Injuries or whatever...lol..it's not whatever. It's injuries. Let's make this a realistic example, if you were injured on the job would u expect to be fired even though you have been an exemplary employee...of course not. 

     

    Hubbard is a team captain that performs at a high level when he's on the field, cutting him before his contract expires because of injuries is not going to happen.

     

    When healthy Hubbard is the 2nd best DE on the roster currently, until that changes I don't see Hubbard getting cut.

     

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  25. Spotrac has a great tool that allows you to manage the cap of any of your favorite sports team

     

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/manage/_/team/cin#

     

    If you use this site it's pretty realistic and it shows how easy it would be to keep everyone that deserves to be kept while adding talented vets to compete for starting spots. If the Bengals don't re-sign Tee, extend Chase and Henderickson, and add proven vets it's because they don't want to not because they don't have the money to do so.

     

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