PatternMaster
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47 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
... If Brian didn't want him despite almost unlimited cap space, why should Zac? 🤔
Because we have dirt on Callahan and made him do it...
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I'm glad to see the Bengals brought back Vonn, he was a glue guy who made everyone better...I wish he would have never left, probably could have made the playoffs if he was here instead of that dumpster fire of a franchise in Carolina.
The Bell, Stone, and Rankins signings are are all quality moves, just waiting to see what the front office does about RT...there weren't many options available going into FA and there are even fewer now.
I see that former first-round pick Andre Dillard was just cut by the Titans, the Bengals need to sign him ASAP
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Brian Callahan just did us a solid and released Andre Dillard, the Bengals should be all over him like a Spider Monkey..
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19 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
I've said I'll happily take both. 🐻 🐻
Brown at RT, Becton at LG.
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36 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
I will not allow Becton slander to ruin my vision. 😁
He was ascending under Pollack. Then the MetLife 'astroturf' injured him and he had no QB (Zach Wilson), which would make any OL look bad.
You mean reality...you sound like a delusional parent that swears that lil Johnny is a good kid, he just needs to stay away from the crystal meth and those bad kids who hang out in the alley...
Look BJ we all know you love a dancing bear...can I interest you in Trent Brown...He's just as big as Becton coming in at 6'8" and 360 lbs but he has played good football in the NFL. In Becton's best year he gave up 7 sacks, to me that screams he's not that good...
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6 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said:
I'd easily take Trent brown before him but I guess we'll see
Brown has been a better player and is less risky, but he doesn't know Frank Pollack so I don't know if that would work out...lol
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Hopefully, someone at PBS has come to their senses and realized that Becton is a bum that isn't worth being signed, regardless of how big he is..he sucks at playing football.
The Jets had one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL since he got there, drafted him #11 overall, and made no attempts to re-sign him...instead they replaced him as soon as possible, that should tell you everything you need to know about Becton.
Being big is cool but being able to play football at a high level is better
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3 hours ago, BlackJesus said:
lol...bro..you keep posting random fans opinions as if that is helping make your point...Will Lutz is a marketing guy..https://www.linkedin.com/in/willie-lutz-027026134/
His eyes for oline talent evaluation doesn't mean shit because he's a fan just like you and me...all of these guys you keep posting are just parroting opinions and giving uneducated takes to talk themselves into agreeing with whatever moves the Bengals might make. Willie Lutz's eye's for oline play is worth fuck all...he doesn't anything about Carman's floor and Becton's ceiling, he's just talking out of his ass.
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11 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Becton's 2020 grades under Pollack
He also gave up 7 sacks and 7 holding calls in 2020, if Carman or any other player had that stat line you and everyone else would be saying they need to be replaced.
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17 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
This description of Becton during the draft is also noteworthy ...
That was against lesser competition, he will be facing elite athletes, not bums in the ACC...Myles Garrett and Watt are not toys and if anyone will be getting thrown around it's Becton.
31 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:The Bengals wouldn't start Becton if he sucks in practice, camp, or pre season. It's not like if they sign him today, he's out there protecting Burrow tomorrow.
But there's huge potential there plus a body and frame that you cannot teach. They could even try him at LG in place of Volson if necessary.
The Bengals definitely would start Becton because they are starting Volson, who is also a diaster, it's what they do...And if you are moving him around to play positions he's never played before, why not move him to RB, TE, or DT...this isn't Madden where you can change someone's position by clicking a few buttons and it works out fine.
26 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
You are trying to use random scouting reports from non-NFL scouts based on what could happen vs. the last 4 years of tape on what has occurred to say that the Bengals should sign this guy. Mike Renner is an accounting major that has never played NFL football, worked as scout for any NFL team, but got a job at PFF and his now a draft guru because??? Mike Renner is watching film just like me and you giving us his uneducated opinion, it's worthless and doesn't cover up the last 4 years of bad or non-existent play of Becton.
14 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:I would start Becton over Flounder 100% of the time. Becton has elite measurables based on basic geometry and world class power with his hands. It's his feet and angles that are the problem. But that can be learned and fixed theoretically.
Meanwhile, Carman and the other bums (outside of Ford) have no clay to mold and shape. Their ceiling is already reached. And it stinks. So yes, I get Becton and see if he's able to be fixed. He's a rusty Porsche that needs a new engine, while the others are bicycles with flat tires.
What makes you think Carman and Smith have reached their ceiling but Becton has not, because he's bigger than them? There are plenty of big guys who can't play RT in the NFL at a high level, elite measurables don't mean shit if you can't put it all together and play consistently good football.
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18 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
The Bengals wouldn't start Becton if he sucks in practice, camp, or pre season. It's not like if they sign him today, he's out there protecting Burrow tomorrow.
But there's huge potential there plus a body and frame that you cannot teach. They could even try him at LG in place of Volson if necessary.
Are you sure about that, this is the same front office that re-signed and started multiple awful offensive linemen over the past few years, including Bobby Hart because and I quote current Bengals VP and Pumpkin's boy toy..Troy Blackburn..
Quote“For those who say you shouldn’t have signed Bobby Hart, who is going to play right tackle? Who? Oh, maybe you’ll draft one in the third round and he’ll come on. Really? You’re going to bet your season on that? We may still draft somebody. We haven’t had the draft yet. But you just can’t criticize. In our business you have to solve the problem. If you’re not going to play him, tell me who? Trent Brown at $17 million? Really? A seventh-round draft pick? Let go essentially by his team. Really? We can’t go to WalMart and buy off the shelf. A high quality starting right tackle? That doesn’t exist (in free agency). You have to deal in the universe of options you have. We ended up signing eight guys. That’s probably above average. Were they perfect? You’re not going to get perfect. …”
This was 5 years ago and the same decision makers are still in place and the Bengals still haven't found a solution to the RT problem, despite multiple picks and paying Bobby Hart 17 million dollars. I don't trust this front office and coaching staff to get this right because time shown that they are not capable of doing so..
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56 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Becton is low cost, but potentially high reward. That's why you give him a very cheap 2 year deal and hope that something clicks.
It's not like they would give him a big contract.
He's low-cost for a reason, he's not very good at playing football in the NFL...High reward comes with high risk, that's the other side of the deal...you don't get something for nothing.
The Jets need offensive linemen, if he was worth a damn they would re-sign him, because to your point..he's low cost..but they saw how badly he practiced/played and didn't even offer a vet minimum deal.
Outside of the Bengals is any other teams showing interest in Becton? The answer is no, because he's not a good NFL football player. Could he develop into one? Maybe, but it is highly unlikely he will.
Do you want to risk Burrow's health and on the slim chance Becton does a 180 turn in his career and becomes this high-reward player? I don't.
The Bengals have backup RT's on the roster, Smith, Carmen, Ford, etc..can all play at the same level as Becton is capable of playing, I just don't see the point of adding him to this roster. The Bengals need starting caliber players and Becton is not that.
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2 hours ago, BlackJesus said:
^ That's a Duke Tobin masterclass.
We get the pick and player, while you pay his salary. 🎩
Lol...as if they planned it that way...c'mon BJ...seriously...they let Bell leave and got lucky Carolina is the worst run org in pro sports and Bell was cut. I would say this is a lucky coincidence moreso than a masterclass..
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Just now, Cricket said:
Why only 17 games??? 😎Good point, 20 games..
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If a guy sucks on his current team, more than likely he's going to suck on this team too...At this point most players don't develop after 4 years in the league, they are who they are..Becton is a physical specimen that is highly inconsistent and should not be starting on a team that wants to win a Super Bowl, he would be a backup but not a starter.
Becton is the classic example of guys getting multiple chances based on draft status, something that was out of his control. If Becton had been drafted in 4th or 5th round he would be out of the NFL based on his production and tape, but he keeps getting chances because he was a first-round pick and he has "potential"...the only potential he has is the potential to get Burrow killed when misses a block or the potential to get a big play called back because he was called for holding...
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A few questions about Becton and Pollack, since that seems to be the connection and the way the Bengals are going to address RT.
1. What player can the Bengals objectively say Frank Pollack has coached up and improved their level of play?
2. What coach doesn't think he can't coach up a player with physical talent, that's a coach's job and their ego makes them believe they can get it done.
3. The Jets offensive line has been awful, why would we take a castoff from a bad offensive line and put him on our offensive line and realistically think he's going to improve the quality of play?
Becton will probably sign, but hopefully he's nothing more than a backup to the rookie RT that comes in and starts all 17 games next season.
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Becton sucks, I hope the Bengals don't sign him. He's big but slow and has awful technique. In his best season he allowed seven sacks, one QB hit, and 15 hurries in 387 pass-blocking snaps while committing seven penalties.
There are guys on the roster who can give you that type of production, hard pass.
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27 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said:
Reminds me of when Fisher went from guard to tackle to H-back to TE or whatever. He might not have been good to begin with but he never had a chance.
Typically switching positions at the NFL level is a huge red flag doesn't work out for the player, I remember the kid from Michigan, last name was Peppers and he got drafted by the Giants, he was playing all over the field in college and got to the NFL and tried to do the same...did work out, I think he ended up settling in at safety, at some point a player has to settle on one position at rock out.
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11 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Remember the Bengals play lots of dime defense with 6 DBs on the field.
So really they need 4 CB and 2 S of starter quality, or 3 / 3.
I'm sure Lou "the Alchemist" Anarumo will make something happen with Hill's skill set. I just hope he gets to settle in on position and master it for his long term development, moving around and playing different positions sounds cool but it doesn't help you specialize on one role. Dime or Nickel corner/safety.... whatever..he just needs to be on the field.
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1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:
Battle and Stone should start
Hill backup to them plus snaps at slot.
Keeps all fresh .
There was an article that mentioned that Hill might switch positions, I think he would be a better cover corner than safety, with the loss of Chido he could be an outside corner or even play in the slot after Hilton's contract is up.
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18 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:
It's not sad.
It was interesting to talk about a what if situation.
Have fun with it.
Carry on..
It's disappointing for me, I thought the Bengals would have been more active and aggressive in signing players, I know they have time to still get some deals done but time is slipping away.
I can see them bringing Jonah and DJ Reader back, or one of the two and drafting the replacement in the first round.
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The Vikings annouced they have no plans to trade Jefferson, this is pipe dream...it's sad the Bengals' free agency's biggest news is a pie-in-the-sky trade rumor instead of signing actual players in positions of need, like DT and RT.
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1 hour ago, IKOTA said:
😂 This man wasted all that time typing up this nonsense.
Exactly
I’m a believer JC! Enjoy your posts. Someone with actual football knowledge is refreshing.
and you wasted time reading it...so what's your point? You didn't actually refute anything I posted you just made bitchy remark, sounds about right for you.
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3 minutes ago, Griever said:
Mixon's farewell
Classy move by Joe Mixon, he's going to be missed. He was a leader and solid guy.
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Free Agency 2024
in THE BENGALS FORUM - For Bengals Fans *Only*
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