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  1. 2024 O Line

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    4 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

     

    Hey I'll be happy to change my opinion just as soon as someone explains how "the algorithm" calculated a 0.5 difference between Stafford and Josh Allen.

     

    Until they show the math I'm going to assume they're making it up as they go.

     

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    Not really disagreeing with your opinion of PFF, but disagreeing with your reasons.  I'm definitely no fan of PFF, but it seems to me if they were just making it up, then the they'd have "invented" a better grade for Stroud.  More likely scenario is that there are actually algorithms but they simply don't tell the whole picture.  IMHO it's got to be stat based somehow obviously, but stats don't tell the whole story.  PFF grades may be PART of the evaluation, but not the only thing, and arguably not always the most important piece either.

     

    I'm always drawn to players with heart, in-game passion/attitude, and results when it really counts, i.e real-world context...stats/algorithms/combineNumbers/etc fail miserably in many of those cases...sometimes they are in sync but often times they do not.

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  2. Keeping our enemies close: 2024

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    8 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

    He along with other Eagles are old.

    Time to rebuild..

     

     

    Still can't believe how far the Eagles fell at the end of this season.  Before the season started, I put money on a Bengals/Eagles Super Bowl match-up...interestingly DraftKings still shows it as an "Open" bet so there must still be a chance, right?  :)

     

    Anyway, at least the Bengals have some reasonable excuses for not getting to the SB.

     

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  5. Bengals cap space update after season ends

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    34 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

     

     

    Was watching the Locked On Bengals guys and they mentioned Reader's knee is the same injury he had that kept him out his first year with us, but that Reader said it is not as bad, so there may be a shorter timeline to get him back. 

     

    They won't sign Jones, he's going to command top dollar and is 29 years old. 

     

    I think of the guys at the DT spot I would rather have Justin Madubuike but he's more of a 3T as a current 3-4 DE or Justin Jones from the Bears.

    Even if we sign Reader again I think we need to add another DT just because we have a bunch of JAGs at the position outside of Hill, and we don't know when Reader could be back, I'd be surprised if it was the start of the season.

    I was wondering about this...I watched the brief locker room interview with Reader thingy and my interpretation was the "not as bad" was based on him simply being thru it before and not necessarily because the injury was less severe than last time.  Here's hoping its both!

     

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  8. Taylor: Bengals still with a lot to play for even as post-season out of reach

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    15 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

     

    Can I quote you if we win and miss out on a player because of it? Like when we lost Ragnow and had to take Price instead.

    Are you 100% sure that the Bengals even had Ragnow ahead of Price on their big board?  Also, there are thousands of examples of the lower draft pick working out better than the higher draft pick, maybe just as many as vice-versa.  Tom Brady anyone?  Selectively quoting the past can result in conveniently making whatever point you want.

     

    I still say the draft is a crap shoot, especially with the Bengals draft record.  If we were talking the #1 pick versus the #32 that would be different IMHO.

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  9. Potential Bengals in the 2024 CFBP?

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    I don't watch much college football anymore...so...

     

    Watching the games tonight, I see more creativity in offensive play calls than what I'm used to seeing in the NFL.  Some very interesting and intriguing plays...mis-directions, lots of movement, impressive creativity...some successful, some not so much, but still intriguing. 

     

    So my question to all you college football gurus out there...is this normal for college football or is it just the teams that are playing tonight???

     

    While I'm at it, what's with the college punt formation where there's a line of 3 guys right in front of the punter?  Seems like blocking at the line would be more effective, i.e. block before the defenders can get up a head of steam?  I can see having one safety valve, but 3?

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  10. Keeping our enemies close: 2023

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    4 hours ago, Homer_Rice said:

    Well, now that the Bengals are out of it, I'm rooting for the Ravens or Browns to take it all. But not Pittsburg... .

     

    As much as I hate the teams in our division, I do share this sentiment.  The AFCN is the toughest division in the NFL so it makes sense that winning the SB would solidify that as long as its not the Stealers (just spit up in my mouth a little).

     

    1 hour ago, Elflocko said:

    Rooting for the Lions. A good friend here is from Detroit, and they’ve basically been the Bengals of the NFC… 

    I like the Lions to win the SB too...I spent alot of time in Detroit and watched Ford Field being built, RedWings fan, so there's that too.

     

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  11. Cleveland Football Team Week (Part 2)

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    2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

    The DCB isn’t really a factor. As posted above, of course do not play someone who is already hurt and/or on the border. Of that, there is consensus. 
     

    But the poppycock of treating this like the last preseason game in August, doesn’t apply. The “young guns” have already been playing. If the idea is to put D’Ante Smith, Jackson Carman, or all of the other inactive/non-playing scrubs to “see what they have”, has already been answered—not much. 
     

    And for the Draft Lust: it looks to be a difference between Pick 14 and Pick 17. Could be different based on all of the qualifiers, but tanking a game for the sake of 3-4 draft slots, is really marginal. 
     

    I won’t post Herm Edwards again, but it still is the objective. 
     

    The DCB is simply inherent in my fandom DNA at this point after enduring so many years of it...sorry.  Agree it may not be applicable the same way it was back in the dark days, but to me it is still a thing.  If for no other reason than the Bengals are not in the playoffs, lost the last couple games in disappointing fashion, and a win against CFT would be a "gee we ended on an encouraging up note to give us hope/momentum/marketingSpin" during the off-season.

     

    Yeah, the "see what they have" is not what I was referring to and the preseason analogy doesn't really fit for me either.  I'm thinking more about the skill positions and letting the younger guys who do have a future here get some valuable real in-season game experience and some real stats to boot.  I want to watch Chase Brown be the feature back for an entire game...I want to watch a whole game where WR's don't include Chase, Higgins, and Boyd...I especially want to see Yoshi play an entire game as a featured WR.  I'm not opposed to letting AJ QB.  I want the coaches to spend the week developing a game plan with those players as key personnel for the entire game.  That doesn't happen in preseason games where players are rotated ad-hoc between promising rooks and future insurance salesmen playing against other future insurance salesmen with little, if any, game plan involved.

     

    I agree with you on the draft stuff.  I get Jaime's (and others) point, I respect his (and others) viewpoint, I don't dispute their "fandom", and arguably it is the smart and logical thing to do to improve the team going forward.  However, at least to me, sports should be about competing, passion, and always playing to win.  I simply don't like the idea of "tanking for a better pick" regardless of how much sense it makes on paper.  You play the game to win...it's sports...it's a game...it's "Any Given Sunday".  Drafting is still a crap shoot in my opinion regardless of draft position, especially with the Bengal's luck/past at the positions of need, so the difference between 14 & 17 (or whatever) is not really a concern to me.

     

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  12. Cleveland Football Team Week (Part 2)

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    2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

    You have been rooting for this since Nov 16.

     

    What is the difference in High Holy Draft Picks between 9-8 and 8-9? What does having a winning season record do to a player’s psyche compared to being called a “loser”? What coveted FA’s are interested in a fan culture more interested in losing than winning? 
     

    Amortize the plus/minuses in terms of the large picture. 

    There are also a number of individual and team "milestones" up for grabs in this game (Team winning record as you said, Mixon near 1000 yds, Chase near 100 receptions, etc)...not to mention the beloved annual dead cat bounce.  That said, I'd like to see the young guns get some enhanced playing time.

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  16. WEEK 16: @ SQUEELERS (GameDey thread)

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    1 minute ago, Arkansas Bengal said:

    Losses to pissburgh hurt TWICE as much as losses to other teams because of the beatings we have received from them over the past 50 fucking years.  Not just on the scoreboard, but the fact that they have traditionally physically beaten up our players (ala Hines Ward and Joey Porter).

     

    I don't blame everyone for being pissed off--I fucking HATE losing to those assholes.

    Yeah, I really hate that part too...my biggest wish every season, regardless of how good or bad we are, is that we beat the Stealers.  The fact that Pickens had his best game ever was also a kick in the balls...so he'll be a f-ing hero now after being a media devil earlier in the week...uggghhhhh.

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  17. WEEK 16: @ SQUEELERS (GameDey thread)

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    Just now, Jamie_B said:

     

     

    Reality will kick you in the teeth next week.

    I guess we'll see...I'm more confident about beating the Chiefs then I was about beating the "nothing to lose, everything to gain, pissed off due to losing streak, division rival, always tough against us, and their super bowl" Stealers.  Honestly before today, I thought the hardest game to win of the remaining three would be against the Stealers.  Their injuries and lack of expectations just seemed to give them more focus and drive...kinda like it did for us the previous few weeks.

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  18. WEEK 16: @ SQUEELERS (GameDey thread)

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    1 minute ago, Duluoz said:

    This ugly loss has completely changed how I see the Bengals and its coaches. A single game shouldn't do that, but it has.

    Interestingly, that's exactly how I felt the previous 3 games during the winning streak with Jake.  I guess it depends on what side of the fence you're on.  Being a Bengals fan has always been a cruel roller coaster ride, even during the dark days with annual dead cat bounces.

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  19. Other Saturday Games Thread

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    36 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

    Do we care? 

    I think so.  I still get confused by all the different scenarios and I'm too lazy to play with the playoff machines.

     

    In general, my take is that we want a loss from any AFC team with a a winning record, so Go Chargers over the Bills.

     

    Tomorrow Go Atlanta over the Colts.  Cleveland vs Houston seems to be a confusing scenario so I dunno there. 

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  20. Random 2023 Bengals related stuff

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    19 hours ago, esjbh2 said:

    I know it was at one time.  I got one for Christmas last year, so I'm not sure if its still available a year later.

     

    1 hour ago, Jungletiger said:

     

    I don't know, I found it on X, on Chad's account.

    I just asked the person that gave me this item last Christmas.  He said he got it at a seasonal/popup kiosk at the Kenwood Mall in Cincinnati this time last year.  I can try to take a higher res photo of what I have if you'd like?

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