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On 3/20/2024 at 9:52 AM, PatternMaster said:
I don't think that losing Mixon and Jonah necessarily makes us that much better as both of those guys were critical to the recent success that has justified our excitement of the current path of the Bengals. They have been replaced, but it remains to be seen if their replacements are upgrades.
I agree that the roster is dynamic and will hopefully add more depth and another playmaker at TE and WR before opening day.
Don't have a problem with any of that, the roster is a different subject. I'm simply tired of hearing the players reference a Super Bowl 2 years ago that they lost. They barely managed 9-8 last year.
I think they could win one this season if they can lock it in and quit talking like they've already done it. Seem a little too up on themselves for a group that just lost every division game that mattered.
There's not going to be a postseason to worry about if they can't beat AFCN teams. This idea they can just tank 6 losses like it doesnt matter because the Chiefs.. Im sorry, what?
Some of y'all are on some heavy copium with that line...
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8 hours ago, SF2 said:
To be fair, the Bengals have picked only one offensive lineman higher than the 4th round over the last 5 years and that was Carman at #46 in the second round. You are asking way too much of Pollack if all he gets are middle round picks and marginal or injury prone FAs.
Kansas City has only one lineman chosen later than the 3rd round.
I used to give the same excuse actually but who has he made better, FA or draft pick. The big name FA's have kind of fizzled, they look average at best here. Carman himself seems to have all the tools but zero motivation, content to remain a backup. We could point to Volson as a later pick that Pollack has developed into a starter, but should he really be starting?
They let the position coaches be draft scouts and then they end up with these pet project types wasting everyone's time.
Pollack's OL has underperformed across the board, it's not just poor drafting. In either case though no one will be held responsible.
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12 hours ago, PatternMaster said:
I don't think that losing Mixon and Jonah necessarily makes us that much better as both of those guys were critical to the recent success that has justified our excitement of the current path of the Bengals. They have been replaced, but it remains to be seen if their replacements are upgrades.
I agree that the roster is dynamic and will hopefully add more depth and another playmaker at TE and WR before opening day.
Don't have a problem with any of that, the roster is a different subject. I'm simply tired of hearing the players reference a Super Bowl 2 years ago that they lost. They barely managed 9-8 last year.
I think they could win one this season if they can lock it in and quit talking like they've already done it. Seem a little too up on themselves for a group that just lost every division game that mattered.
Think Zac needs to sit them down day one of camp and give them a reality check. They were average last year. That's what all the yapping earns them.
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10 hours ago, texbengal said:
True, Hill has hardly played and when he did he was a human penalty flag.
They do need depth for sure but other than Price and Zeitler, they don’t typically go early with interior OL.
Perhaps why they've had to bring IOL in as free agents. After watching Cappa on tape getting abused by our new DT I'd call it mixed results at best. Volson was a 4th round pick and a marginal starter. Maybe they should try drafting them earlier and see how that goes?
The bigger concern to me is that Pollack is their primary OL scout. I'm starting to see that as a problem regardless of the round they're being drafted. Believe most teams would've fired him by now.
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2 hours ago, claptonrocks said:
Obtaining a decent NT would make it them an A+..😎
In the vids I watched Rankins was mostly lining up at NT but this keeps coming up, is the expectation he'd be rotating in only for passing downs here?
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2 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:
I will just pipe in and say several sites have noted that given his athletic absolute he does not seem to have a full drive for football. The vowel guy from Yale does however.
You know Ol' Musty loves those ivy leaguers.. They're gonna logic and reason right down the field.
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4 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:
I love to see him next to Henderickson and have those two just play like madmen...With Fiske, Henderickson, and Hubbard we would have the scrappiest, high-motor gamers who play the game the right way with good fundamentals and are sneaky athletic lunch pail guys who are heady and gritty..
https://awfulannouncing.com/2014/your-white-guy-code-word-power-rankings.html
He looked disruptive, like he's a factor on every snap. Atkins was the same way.
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48 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
I know he's signed an extension since but I still question if Sample would be on the team if they hadn't blown a 2nd round pick on him initially. 3 TD's in 5 years... Is his blocking really that exceptional? He is what he is, wouldn't they be better served by someone that can play the position?
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Just now, Inigo Montoya said:
Why bother. Nuance would mean actually acknowledging the occasional thing the team does that you like. I know better than to think that will ever happen with you.
Yeah you should probably just give up.
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4 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Wasn't Rankins usually lined up at NT for Houston? He made Cappa look like a traffic cone:
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Good that it's less of an immediate necessity but I'd still go OL with 2 of the first 3 picks if the value is there. They might get more out of IOL in the first, or another position group that teams don't usually go for in the top 10. If there are already 4-5 tackles off the board but one G/C it stands to reason that 2nd best IOL is a better prospect than the remaining OTs. Same with interior DL, TE or DB that typically come off the board mid-round.
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5 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:
The games aren’t going to be played for months. Are you going to do nothing but be negative until then? They’ve done what you wanted. Jonah is gone and a veteran has been signed to replace him. We still have the draft to add more pieces. You should be happy but nope. I doubt anything, even winning a Super Bowl, would change it for you.Here we go with the armchair psychology shit again... Just do us both a favor & put me on ignore if nuance is beyond your capabilities.
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1 hour ago, Griever said:
Oh shit are they really going to run the dilapidated husk of Aaron Rodgers back out there for another season? It's close to FrankenBen level, let the man rest.
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42 minutes ago, kennethmw said:
In the two years Burrow has finished the year healthy, we have gone to the AFC Championship game. Healthy, this team is not Carolina or the Patsies, its one of the best teams in the league. The League knows that.
They sure do, meaning we get their best shot every week. That's what losing a Super Bowl 2 years ago gets them - better prepared opponents.
Just sayin, they need to quit talking about the last one like it was anything but a huge disappointment and go get theirs so we don't have that in common with the Panthers.
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5 hours ago, PatternMaster said:
If Brown is such an obvious upgrade over Becton, who didn't want to play here...why did the Bengals not target Brown from the beginning of FA, like why waste time on a lesser player like Becton?
Is it purely because of the Frank Pollack connection, because if so that is a huge waste of time and misstep? This idea that Pollack was going to rehab Becton's career is hilarious because he hasn't been able to develop one decent starter out of the 7 draft picks the Bengals have used on the offensive line in the past 5 years. These are talented players who have all the tools to be successful but Pollack has only managed to get one to start, and he's the worst player on the offensive line, a legit liability that should be replaced.
The Bengals wasted a whole week on Becton when they should have been targeting Brown from the beginning, but better late than never...I guess...let's hope they get a deal done with Brown.
It probably was Pollack and I agree it's ridiculous. This OL has done nothing but underperform. Instead if holding him accountable the team will instead publish some fawning article about his model train collection or some such bullshit.
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6 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:
I thought that too until I saw how Creed Humphries played at such a high level his rook yr.
I believe JPJ will start and play effactively from jump.
Sticking Karras back at guard would work as well imo.
You'd have Volson and Ford as backups which would make the bench stronger.
They'll draft a OT though because it's a bigger need and the right thing to do.
I have some doubts as to whether an OT is going to be among their BPA's at 18. Just as likely they take a WR or anything but a QB really, based on how they've been drafting.
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23 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
Well.. So far? Because all y'all actually "did" was lose a Superbowl but you seem to think that means something years later. That's a big part of why you haven't done it again.
There's no do-overs, all it means is that it's going to be harder the next time because no one is overlooking the Bengals now.
This whole organization needs to stop strutting around like they've done something and get back to work.
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2 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said:
Any news on a DT?
They signed Sheldon Rankins from the Texans
https://www.bengals.com/news/sheldon-rankins-free-agency-2024-defensive-tackle-houtson-texans
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45 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:
I believe you said you'd consider trading Tee for 33 and 38 from some team
If you mean Tee for two 2nd round picks, yeah. Not to move up 5 spots in the 2nd round.
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23 hours ago, claptonrocks said:
Then the Bengals would have drafted Penei Sewell...😎
Which does seem like kind of a big deal when they don't have a starting RT on the roster. I'd still rather have Chase & will instead point to not making a single OL pick last year.
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1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:
So you think he won't be doubled?
Actually I watched some highlights, he's got good feet and showed some moves. He's not just out there being a boulder in the middle of the line, dude can pass rush or chase down RB's. Showed some patience at times as well. He looks persistent which I like to see from the DL, a lot of young guys will decide they're out of a play and jog it off.
He's still just a prospect & I think would definitely benefit from being in a rotation while he gets up to NFL conditioning, but I wouldn't hate it at #18.
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5 hours ago, SF2 said:
I understand this reasoning but you are still basically putting yourself in draft purgatory. You get 9 to 11 wins and what? Another draft unable to get one of the top QB prospects? One and done in the playoffs?
One can only hope.
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30 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:
Not my words, but paraphrasing
We have to block TikTok to stop China from influencing us on the same phones they sell us.
If the powers that be want to have a conversation about how social media algos are being written & why, across the board, that's a different conversation.
Or if we're worried about China "influencing" us, anyone else familiar with the OceanWide Plaza mess in DTLA?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanwide_Plaza
Would love to see the feds turn a team of forensic accountants loose on that shit. Or just seize it, but they won't, because Chinese influence 💰💰💰
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Why is the OL set? Neither Volson nor Cappa are untouchable and the new RT is on a 1 year deal. There's no reason at all they shouldn't be drafting OL early and often, and no reason why those guys couldn't earn a starting position right away.