T-Dub

100%. Really the problem is that everyone knows that shit on some level but they want to ignore it so instead it's fun to attack me on a personal level in order to deny it. There have been people on this board for years that did nothing at all but troll and they don't have to endure this kind of abuse. At this point the owner of the place is making it personal though so I no longer feel welcome. There are people who I've never even heard of on here suddenly talking at me like they know me. For those of you I've had good interactions with, cya round, The rest of y'all can eat a fat dick, enjoy your little circlejerk and one less regular on your site to argue with.

Gosh are you ok? Do you need to talk to someone? Boy you must really be a miserably depressed person to not like this Bengals draft pick. I hope things get better for you soon.

Jesus Christ ,man, you talked more shit about this team than anyone. Literal YEARS of ragging on Dalton nonstop that everyone else had to endure. At the end of the day it's just football. I never thought to myself "Wow I better put on some patented Bob Bratkowski bifocals and psychoanalyze this guy over the bridge of a well-worn copy of Atlas Shrugged." I just figured you really hated Dalton for whatever reason right out of the gate, kinda weird I guess but nothing that I felt the need to try and project into some bullshit character failing or life lesson on your part. I argued with you about Dalton and left it at that. Climb down from the fuckin' soapbox & go condescend to someone you actually know and genuinely give a shit about. because this concern troll stuff is weaksauce. I promise some internet football shitposting is not that serious to me and you needn't pretend to worry yourself about it beyond that.

Please tell me more about what I think I thought this guy sounded good until more details started to come out. Recovering from back surgery + Paul Alexander still having his stubby little fingers in the pie made me reconsider. Is that really so hard to understand?

I mean.. is he healthy now? Maybe I misunderstood but it sounded like he's recovering from back surgery. If this were a 4th or 5th round pick I wouldn't mind so much but considering the high pick & all the other players they passed on to take him.. Plus they're already carrying a LT that can't seem to stay on the field, a center also coming back from IR, and of course the OL being awful even apart from the injuries.. Then SI runs this article interviewing Ketchup Whisperer about the guy with the actual OL coach only chiming in at the end and it feels like they're trolling. They've got to be trolling... right? I'm really trying not to be so down on the team and the upcoming season but fuckin A man, throw me a bone here...

Ketchup Whisperer talked to Ol' Musty about it and they agreed that tapioca is the best pudding flavor and also draft this kid LOL why not Not joking, see the SI article in the Carman thread. TW: nausea.

I couldn't even finish the article Quick, someone tell me I'm an awful person for feeling sick after the first 2 paragraphs. What in the actual fuck did I just read? Did someone forget to take away Ketchup Whisperer's keys? Thanks a lot SI, I'm at work and it's a little early to be hitting the sauce but..

Which really begs the question as to "why?" Willie Anderson? Because he grew up a fan of the team? Redeeming? I'm ready for him to come in here and never miss a game in his career but for a team that has been crippled by bad OL picks and injury-prone players it's hard to get my head around. Why not draft a healthy player instead? Maybe I'm way off base but when you talk about the Bengals culture what I see all too often is someone trying to run a billion-dollar business in a grimy, cut-throat pro sports league like it's a local nonprofit charity. There's this disconnect where they don't want to acknowledge that in the end they are selling a product and that product hasn't been very good. Or maybe that's just me being negative or w/e?

For a top 2nd round pick that definitely bugs the shit out of me. I really dont understand their fascination with spending millions of dollars to play at Florence Nightingale. It's the NFL, there are no Good Boy Points to be earned here.

OK, I give it a C+. Seems we whiffed on Price unless Pollack can save him, but we got Bates in the 2nd and I'm not even sure that guy has hit his ceiling yet despite turning into a damned good safety already. I think Hubbard is legit & would probably go higher in a re-draft. The rest of the class are about as expected for later draft picks, some contributors and some not. Overall not a bad draft but taking a center at #21 overall only to see him clinging to a back up spot by his fingernails 3 years later hurts an otherwise decent haul.

No disrespect intended to Willie but in the absence of an actual scouting department the recommendation of someone who is basically a client is the kind of endorsement we are left to rely on instead.

Yeah that certainly didn't help. Can add offense ToP to that list as well. Lots of 3 & outs.

I'm just glad whatever LB they coveted in the 2nd got swooped up and "forced" them to take OL. I may feel differently when our current LB are getting blocked into pretzels and trucked by 180lb H-backs but if JB survives 16 games it'll be worth it.

I guess they got good value at the picks, based on a bunch of mock drafts, for whatever that's worth. Beyond that, yeah. Who knows which of these guys can actually play at this level? Ask again in December, & even then some of these guys are pretty raw. Not sure why it took 2 years for the FO to embrace the kind of long term rebuilding strategy that implies, but here we are.. better late than never, I suppose.

You're actually one of two that it's recently gotten personal with. Quit acting like you speak for "absolutely everybody" when; nobody died and left you in charge, I don't think I missed an election, and you're full of shit anyway. I don't think anyone here needs you to speak for them. Just put me on ignore if it's such a big problem that you can't leave it alone? FFS dude everyone's already moved on but you.

Can we? That'd be ideal but in all likelihood someone on the OL will miss games this season, I'd really like to see them pick up some other average vet "jobber" type that can play a couple of different positions so these rooks aren't the only option besides Jordan/Johnson. I can see carrying them into TC but no reason those two should make the final roster again barring injuries. One halfway decent FA should be able to effectively replace both of them.

Maybe? Could just be how their board shook out but it seems like they were really targeting pass rushers.

Price is a weird case, he seemed like he was coming along fine at first and then went over a cliff. IDK if that's Ketchup Whisperer, being benched, injuries, Turner being an inept asshole or a combination of all those (more likely) but I really think the blame there is on the team as much as Price. The potential sure looked like it was there at the beginning. As to Hopkins, he's looked at least average at times so I find it hard to tell. When 2 or more members of the OL are terribad it makes the whole unit look like shit. We just need 6-7 guys that aren't a complete liability if we have to play them. This was never going to be a great OL this year given where they're starting from but yeah, I wish they'd done a little more to move the needle at least. At this point I think we're going to have to hope Pollack can duct tape something together that will hold up ok for a season & at least make it clear where the holes are.. hard to do that underwater, so to speak.

Sure, let me know what post you were responding to then because surely it couldn't have been this one: What did I say there that wasn't objective? It's a fairly mundane statement about the draft. In fact I went on to say that I thought you were aware of all that & wonder about why I needed to spell it out in the first place. That's it. Instead of disagreeing, or refuting any of it, or offering a different perspective that had anything to do with our draft or even football in general you instead went with the extremely phony and condescending concern-troll routine. Sorry dude but you're kinda full of shit here.

So can this kid reasonably make some kicks from beyond 40 yards or nah? Seems to be mixed opinions & I can't imagine trading in Ample Randle for another guy that they don't trust at that range. Any NFL PK should be good enough inside 50 to at least make it worth a try.

Squeaky toys are the annoying rubber dog toys that keep making the same sound over and over & annoying the shit out of you. Let it go,

Trying to remember the last big draft pick the Bengals made from UT and all I can think of is that one backup QB who I think got arrested for tipping cows or a DUI on a riding lawnmower.. Something like that?

If they can also throw away the shotgun draw play on 3rd & short that'd be cool

I see, that plus: Squares blitzers and sticks a heavy lead shoulder into chip blocks. Makes me think he's intended as more of a Gio replacement.

Wasn't even talking to you but you can't resist stirring up more shit. Get off my dick, loser.