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14 minutes ago, JC said:
That’s fair. We haven’t seen much development. On the same token - they are the worst at drafting athletic linemen in the league. Their whole approach needs to change. Stop drafting linemen who don’t test at the combine/pro days and don’t score near the 8 RAS threshold.But...but...but... all that money in big name free agents....
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58 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:
He thinks Jonah will get a big FA deal ...
Who cares? It won't be out money.
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49 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:
For sure - a definite possibility just based on thier drafting in the past
Based on their drafting in the past I can see them trading down and taking a ham 'n egger JAG
to get an extra 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Bengal love those draft picks.
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39 minutes ago, Arkansas Bengal said:
Published: Jan 22, 2024 at 10:54 AM
Headshot_Author_Bucky_Brooks_1400x1000
Bucky Brooks
NFL.com Analyst
Here's my first projection of how the entire first round will play out in Detroit when the 2024 NFL Draft begins on April 25.
NOTES:
As of this writing, the draft order for picks 1-28 is set. The order for picks 29-32 will be determined by postseason results. Those picks are ordered in this mock based on regular-season record, with strength of schedule as the tiebreaker.
Pick
1
Chicago Bears
(via CAR)
Caleb Williams
USC · QB · Junior
GM Ryan Poles should take the best quarterback in the draft, with or without Justin Fields on the roster. The Bears could recreate the Alex Smith-Patrick Mahomes scenario for a season (with Williams enjoying a redshirt year before taking over) or they could move on from Fields this offseason to usher in a new era with a young -- and cheap -- franchise quarterback.
Pick
2
Washington Commanders
Drake Maye
North Carolina · QB · Sophomore (RS)
The Commanders could take Maye and sit him behind his former North Carolina teammate, Sam Howell, until he is ready to assume control as the franchise quarterback. Maye offers immense talent and potential, but with only two years of starting experience at UNC, he would benefit from an apprenticeship before taking over as QB1 down the road.
Pick
3
New England Patriots
Jayden Daniels
LSU · QB · Senior
If new head coach Jerod Mayo is serious about upgrading the most important position on the team, he cannot afford to bypass the Heisman Trophy winner at pick No. 3 in this exercise. The spectacular dual-threat playmaker would add some sizzle to an offense that lacked explosiveness under Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe.
Pick
4
Arizona Cardinals
Marvin Harrison Jr.
Ohio State · WR · Junior
The Cardinals add a Larry Fitzgerald-like playmaker to a lineup that desperately needs a No. 1 receiver on the perimeter. The Ohio State standout is a plug-and-play prospect with superstar potential.
Pick
5
Los Angeles Chargers
Brock Bowers
Georgia · TE · Junior
If the Chargers are committed to upgrading the supporting cast around Justin Herbert, Bowers could be the perfect pick as a playmaking tight end.
Pick
6
New York Giants
Rome Odunze
Washington · WR · Senior
If the Giants are going to continue with Daniel Jones as their QB1, they must add a legitimate No. 1 receiver to help the quarterback thrive. As a catch-and-run specialist with superior strength and power, Odunze could make the game easier for Jones.
Pick
7
Tennessee Titans
Olumuyiwa Fashanu
Penn State · OT · Junior (RS)
After dealing with a season of offensive woes, the Titans prioritize the front line with the selection of Fashanu.
Pick
8
Atlanta Falcons
Dallas Turner
Alabama · Edge · Junior
The need to upgrade the pass rush makes Turner the ideal pick at this point. The Alabama standout is an athletic speed rusher with outstanding first-step quickness.
Pick
9
Chicago Bears
Laiatu Latu
UCLA · Edge · Senior
Pairing an energetic pass rusher with Montez Sweat could help the Bears' defense continue to improve under Matt Eberflus. This ultra-athletic QB hunter routinely wins with an assortment of finesse moves off the edge.
Pick
10
New York Jets
Joe Alt
Notre Dame · OT · Junior
Fixing the offensive line is the top priority for GM Joe Douglas and Co. The Notre Dame standout is a Day 1 starter with strong hands and nimble feet.
Pick
11
Minnesota Vikings
Jared Verse
Florida State · Edge · Senior
Adding an athletic pass rusher to the lineup will enhance the Vikings’ aggressive schemes under Brian Flores. The Florida State standout flashes double-digit potential as a sack artist.
Pick
12
Denver Broncos
Terrion Arnold
Alabama · CB · Sophomore (RS)
The Broncos pair Pat Surtain II with Arnold, a polished cover corner. With exceptional instincts and awareness, the former Tide star is a scheme-friendly defensive playmaker on the perimeter.
Pick
13
Las Vegas Raiders
Taliese Fuaga
Oregon State · OT · Junior (RS)
Beefing up the offensive line is a top priority for a team that wants to control the trenches. Fuaga is a mauler/brawler with the size, strength and nastiness to help the Raiders dominate the point of attack.
Pick
14
New Orleans Saints
JC Latham
Alabama · OT · Junior
The Saints’ uncertainty at offensive tackle could lead the team to take another player at the position in Round 1. Latham is a massive brawler with the strength, power and length to punish defenders in the run game.
Pick
15
Indianapolis Colts
Malik Nabers
LSU · WR · Junior
Michael Pittman Jr.’s impending free agency could ultimately force GM Chris Ballard to take a No. 1 receiver early in the draft. Nabers is a baller with the ability to shine as a featured playmaker in the Colts’ scheme.
Pick
16
Seattle Seahawks
Byron Murphy II
Texas · DT · Junior
Fixing the defense is a must for Seattle after the unit struggled down the stretch. Murphy is a disruptive interior presence with the speed and quickness to dominate against the run or pass.
Pick
17
Jacksonville Jaguars
T'Vondre Sweat
Texas · DT · Senior
After watching the defense crumble over the second half of the season, the Jaguars are intent on upgrading the front line. Sweat is a massive interior defender with the strength, power and heavy hands to snuff out the run at the point of attack.
Pick
18
Cincinnati Bengals
Brian Thomas Jr.
LSU · WR · Junior
The potential loss of Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd in free agency could force the Bengals to take an offensive weapon early in the draft. Thomas is an athletic playmaker with the size and ball skills to thrive as a WR2 opposite Ja’Marr Chase.
Pick
19
Los Angeles Rams
Bo Nix
Oregon · QB · Senior
As Matthew Stafford heads toward his age-36 season, the Rams could target his eventual replacement early in the 2024 draft. Nix’s experience and maturity fits a locker room that takes a business-like approach to preparation.
Pick
20
Pittsburgh Stealers
Amarius Mims
Georgia · OT · Junior
A commitment to retool the offense could prompt the Stealers to add a massive blocker to the lineup. Mims’ size, athleticism and movement skills make him an intriguing option for a team that excels in player development.
Pick
21
Miami Dolphins
Jackson Powers-Johnson
Oregon · IOL · Junior
Beefing up the line could help the Dolphins upgrade an offense that struggled against physical defensive fronts.
Pick
22
Philadelphia Eagles
Nate Wiggins
Clemson · CB · Junior
The Eagles’ secondary woes will force GM Howie Roseman to address the situation in the draft. Wiggins is an athletic freak with the tools to flourish early in his career.
Pick
23
Houston Texans
(via CLE)
Troy Fautanu
Washington · OL · Senior
With C.J. Stroud blossoming into a franchise quarterback, the Texans must make a concerted effort to keep him protected. Fautanu would give the team the flexibility to reshuffle the O-line and put its five best pass protectors in front of the emerging superstar.
Pick
24
Dallas Cowboys
Tyler Guyton
Oklahoma · OT · Senior
The Cowboys must prepare for left tackle Tyron Smith’s eventual departure. Guyton is ideally suited to play on the right side, but his presence would give the 'Boys options for a potential reshuffle if Smith leaves Dallas this offseason.
Pick
25
Green Bay Packers
Kool-Aid McKinstry
Alabama · CB · Junior
Adding a dynamic cover corner would upgrade the Packers’ depth in the defensive backfield. McKinstry flashes CB1 skills, but needs some time to refine his technique before assuming that role as a pro.
Pick
26
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Keon Coleman
Florida State · WR · Junior
Mike Evans’ age (will turn 31 before next season) and impending free agency pushes WR1 to the top of the Buccaneers’ needs list. Coleman is a pass-catching phenom with outstanding ball skills and leaping ability.
Pick
27
Arizona Cardinals
(via HOU)
Jordan Morgan
Arizona · OT · Senior
The Cardinals commit to building up the front line. Morgan is a gritty player with the potential to fill a role on the interior or outside at tackle.
Pick
28
Buffalo Bills
Cooper DeJean
Iowa · DB · Junior
Sean McDermott loves versatile defensive backs with instincts and a high football IQ. DeJean is an A+ athlete with experience at multiple positions in the secondary.
Pick
29
Kansas City Chiefs
Kris Jenkins
Michigan · DT · Junior (RS)
The Chiefs’ surging defense has thrived with a collection of young players slotted into prominent roles. Jenkins is an intriguing prospect with the bloodlines -- his father, Kris Sr., was a four-time Pro Bowler -- and physical tools to blossom into a star.
Pick
30
Detroit Lions
Chop Robinson
Penn State · Edge · Junior
The Lions need to find a complementary pass rusher to place opposite Aidan Hutchinson. Robinson is a freak athlete.
Pick
31
San Francisco 49ers
Quinyon Mitchell
Toledo · CB · Senior
The sensational MAC standout possesses the prototypical dimensions and playmaking attributes to flourish for the 49ers.
Pick
32
Baltimore Ravens
Bralen Trice
Washington · Edge · Senior
The Ravens have a knack for selecting prospects who outperform their athletic-testing numbers. Trice is a standout football player with the polished pass-rushing skills to create problems for blockers.
Oh Hell no... and let Pittsburgh get Mims?
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How about the coaching staff doing more to develop both Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson into
more well rounded tight ends?
Now we've established Sample is an excellent blocker, how about getting him into the game as a
target more? IIRC he catches most of the balls thrown at him (most, not all) but how about getting
him into Joe's playbook a bit more.
One think I like about Tanner is that on 3rd and 4 he runs 5 or 6 yards to catch the ball not 2 like Irv Smurf.
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5 minutes ago, JC said:
I do think Jonah is solid and he’s going to get paid handsomely. But he’s built for zone scheme with his size and he doesn’t have great short area burst so he’s pretty limited at that. Even if the Bengals didn’t have Tee as a tag option - I’m not sure they would use it on Jonah. I think they want big and athletic.
I don't think Jonah can handle top level competition.
Yeah, who can, but in out division we see a hella lot of it.
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3 hours ago, Jamie_B said:
So far he was our best pick. I really hope Dax Hill turns it around next year, he showed glimpses but was not as good as I hoped he would be. If he can turn it around and be at least consistent in knowing where he is supposed to be and then be there the starters at S will be good for the next few years. If Turner can do the same, we are ok in the 2ndary for starters.
I'm wondering if a lot of the deal with Dax is they have not found the best
place and way to play him.
Does he seem like sort of a Safety or Outside cover linebacker or is that just me?
I think he can be a killer as soon as they figure out what to do with him.
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15 minutes ago, esjbh2 said:
I often wondered how much the opposite was true regarding the fondness of eachother. At times Lewis seemed to love Chad, but just as often that coach merely tolerated him.
I see your point. As much as I/we all liked Chad, I can see his antics being distracting.
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2 hours ago, texbengal said:Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
One of the freakiest athletes in the draft, Mims had an 85-inch wingspan in high school and now plays at 6-7, 340. The 21-year-old, former five-star runs like a tight end, has elite length and brings a punch that will deaden rushers cold.
However, Mims’ only starts in 2022 came in the College Football Playoff, and he was limited to six starts in 2023 by an early-season ankle injury. Technique-wise, he has a long way to go. Traits-wise, he’s a mutant.
Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC, Oregon
A 20-year-old Rimington winner, Powers-Johnson was an incredibly consistent anchor for Oregon’s offense, both in protection and as a run blocker. PFF credited him with just one pressure allowed last season, his lone year as a full-time starter.
Powers-Johnson plays with terrific agility and general movement skills as a heavy-handed center who carries his power on the move. He’s great as a puller and in the screen game, and in general, he’s just ahead of where most centers are at his age. He’s light on experience, but his run with the Ducks was fantastic.
Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
Another freaky prospect, Suamataia (a prep teammate of Puka Nacua’s) is a 6-6, 325-pound tackle who like Mims can resemble a big tight end in space. People at BYU think he has a shot to run in the 4.8s and, per Bruce Feldman’s Freaks List, he’s been clocked at 21.5 mph on the GPS.
****** OK... My eaqrlky decision, subject to change.
I really like Mims. I like the description "freaky" when applied to players.
The other two guys possible Round Two (?).if they fail and/or we trade up a bit to grab one?
Esp like the sounds of the young Center although I am hinky about interior O linemen named Jackson.
Jaxon, yes, Jackson no. Would anchor the center of the line for a decade and allow Karris to replace Cappa.
Suamataia called "freaky"... that word again. How low will he go?
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22 minutes ago, Arkansas Bengal said:
Report: Marvin Lewis is expected to join Antonio Pierce’s staff
Published January 19, 2024 09:27 PMThe Raiders have their head coach, taking the interim tag of Antonio Pierce’s title Friday. Now, he can begin the process of filling out his staff.Pierce reportedly is consulting with Tom Coughlin.
The Raiders want Marvin Lewis in some official capacity on staff, NFL Media reports. Pierce hired Lewis to help him after he was named interim coach halfway through the season.
Lewis now is expected to have a formal role.
It is not surprising given the long relationship between the men. Lewis coached Pierce in Washington and the two were on Herm Edwards’ staff at Arizona State before Pierce joined the Raiders in 2022.
Pierce will not retain most of the team’s offensive staff, including interim coordinator Bo Hardegree, per NFL Media.
The Raiders averaged 289.5 yards per game, which ranked 27th, and 19.5 points per game, which ranked 23rd.
Saw that elsewhere.
He'll have them up to mediocre in... a few years.
Or maybe down to mediocre.
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Pure speculation.
But if it would happen let him drop balls at critical times for them
(still like the guy a lot though... wish him well no matter where he ends up
except in the division
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15 hours ago, sparky151 said:
Maybe. OBj was a pro-bowler in 2022. He signed here and allowed the most QB pressures of any O-lineman in the NFL in 2023. One might think the team would be looking for an upgrade from Pollack but he seems to be bulletproof.
They have Volson to blame it on. Everything is blamed on Volson.
He's not a malcontent first round draft pick of big buck free agent.
Can't be Pollock.
So it has to be Volson. Who I do not think is nearly as bad as most on here.
Call it a sophomore slump or whatever, I'm still very much into giving him another year.
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1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:
It's almost like picking in the middle of the draft every year doesn't do anything to improve your team.
That was Marvin's downfall.
Among other things.
Everyone got better or worse except the guy in the middle.
Of course, the current staff is really into the free agency stuff.
And other teams don't think trading draft picks is poison.
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1 minute ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:
Well, we added to the bad Uggbuhei pick with our next pick, Jake Fisher.
Who adds to our questioning the scouting staff... who was supposed to
check his medical record? My money is onBoy Toy Troy.
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Just now, Jamie_B said:
Seeing as last year was one of the most loaded TE drafts and we didn't take one. We probably skip out on an OT this year too.
I'm still breathing a huge sigh of relief that we didn't take Leatherwood whenever it was he came out.
Actually, rather surprising, that.
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1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:
So you're saying we'll take a wide receiver.
1/2
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2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:
This team's biggest weakness is the inability to draft OL. Given that we have missed even on premium picks, maybe the team is gun-shy to try again. I am not sure drfated ones later is any help given that if you cant evaluate them higher up the draft it seems unlikely you can lower down? Just rambling...the whole OL drafting and scheme used is a hot mess...
Mentioned elsewhere we have not drafter O linemen high for a number of years.
Jonah was Jonah... he seemed to do OK but top level D linemen ate him up. Unfortunately in our division
he say Garret and Watt et al twice a year.
Who knows what Carman's story is? Heart not in it?
Last one taken high before that was Ogbuhei and was certainly nothing to write home about.
And I am not as down on Volson as a lot of people.
Rambling, too, and lost my train of thought... what I get for posting from work.
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22 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:
Jake from All State looks like he is really excited to be around Kermit and Mr Swift.
Told to me by a friend.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Also told to me by a friend.
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I'm not a big fan of statistics,
"Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics"
but these you rounded up are
cool, Mr Jesus
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