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  1. 1 hour ago, High School Harry said:

    Ancient Bengals History...

    In the 1977 Draft Paul Brown used a 4th round draft pick for Georgia ORT Mike Wilson who would have gone

    in the first round if he had not already signed a contract with Toronto in the CFL.

    He played there a year before coming to the Bengals to play ORT for many years overlooked because he

    played next to ORG Max Montoya and he was the book end for young OLT Anthony Munoz.

    He was one of my favorite Bengals ever.  Mike Wilson was overlooked and underrated.

    It is strange to think that, at one time, players often made more money in the CFL than in the NFL. Today, the annual team salary cap in the CFL is around $6M - for the whole team!

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  2. 2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

    Perhaps a small observation, but Austin news says he was “booked into Travis County Jail at 2:12pm…”, but that he was “arrested overnight”. 
     

    That would make more sense. A person can be arrested for suspicion, but not charged/booked until later. 

    Yes, the news feeds now say the uincident occurred at 4:41 AM but he was charged at 2 pm

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  3. What does this mean for his draft stock?

    Despite an All-American 2023 season, Sweat entered the draft process with several questions to answer in NFL team interviews. According to a team source, he was up front with teams about his “partying” as an underclassman and made it a point of emphasis to teams that it was all in the past.

    A DWI charge three weeks before draft weekend obviously won’t help give NFL teams confidence about his off-field decision-making and focus. Because of these concerns, Sweat is a very hard player to project in the NFL Draft. Based on feedback from teams, my best guess is he will still be available as we start day three of the NFL Draft in the fourth round. — Dane Brugler, national NFL writer

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

    What other issues are those? Just weight? 
     

    Seen the clips of him on the field. He doesn’t look like he takes plays off. Motor looks sound. 
     

    Like I said, he may not be everything and a bag of chips. Might be what is so desperately needed as an interior run stopper. Might not. 
     

    But to give some 22-year old college dumbass a “baggage” moniker after this, is a tad harsh. 

    Many sights have noted he had some questions about his dedication. The DUI situation is even worse given it happened at 2 in the afternoon. His character flags are well known in the draft pages, whether they are all true or not. 

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  5. 13 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

    If the guy is all that and a bag of chips, then a flub-up by a 22-year old college kid should not deter them from taking the chance to shore up arguably the weakest area of their defense. 
     

    “Character concerns” has always made me lol. If someone is pushing narcotics or trafficking children…then it’s a non-stater. A boozy (and who the heck knows what “drunk” is in Texas anyway) night out in Austin does not a Tony Montana make. 

    Bo Callahan had character concerns. These days, teams have to be very careful with prospects who have shown immaturity (for the record, at that age I was VERY immature, thankfully there were no cell phones in the day). Given the money awarded players they need to be fully committed to football and to the craft of thier position. Maybe Sweat is, maybe he is not. But even earlier in the year there were flags raised about his weight and 'party' habits. Problem is, he can come out and say he made a mistake and learned his lesson, blah, blah, blah. But he has no chance to provie it before the draft. It is literally an idiot move he made. As in dumbass. I say he will fall to at least round 3 and perhaps further. Could be wrong, one team could take an earlier gamble. 

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  6. 5 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

    Mike and Duke see character flaws before the draft as "discounts" on talent.

     

    They took Carman despite the rape allegation. 

     

    So why remove Sweat from your board for a DUI? 

    One was an allegattion, this one may be fact. If it turns out to be all true, I suspect he falls to the 5th round

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  7. 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

    Good call.

    I'm all  in on trading up for him where you 

    said..

     

    I think his weight dropped from 360 to 345 which shows some commitment.

     

     

     

    I am not sure he is fully committed to football via weight management. He may be another Andre Smith type. SOme teams may fiund him a bit too riky in round 2 whcih is why some sites have him more of a 3rd round guy. 1st round talent but you had better be very sure of his committment.

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  8. As the 2024 NFL Draft class continues to take shape, it’s time again to take stock of which prospects are dominating the early-round conversation.

    The Athletic’s consensus Big Board combines rankings from a wide range of draft experts to identify how the top prospects are viewed relative to the rest of their class. In theory, by the time we reach the draft weekend, these rankings should help give us a handle on how the picks could (or, at least, should) play out.

    Let’s see how things have shifted since our March board.

    2024 NFL Draft Consensus Board
      PLAYER POS SCHOOL LAST CHANGE
    1
    Caleb Williams
    QB
    team-logo-252-50x50.pngUSC
    2
    1
    2
    Marvin Harrison Jr.
    WR
    1
    -1
    3
    Drake Maye
    QB
    3
    0
    4
    Malik Nabers
    WR
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    4
    0
    5
    Rome Odunze
    WR
    5
    0
    6
    Brock Bowers
    TE
    6
    0
    7
    Joe Alt
    OT
    7
    0
    8
    Dallas Turner
    EDGE
    8
    0
    9
    Jayden Daniels
    QB
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    9
    0
    10
    Jared Verse
    EDGE
    10
    0
    11
    Olu Fashanu
    OT
    11
    0
    12
    JC Latham
    OT
    12
    0
    13
    Terrion Arnold
    CB
    13
    0
    14
    Laiatu Latu
    EDGE
    16
    2
    15
    Quinyon Mitchell
    CB
    15
    0
    16
    Taliese Fuaga
    G/T
    14
    -2
    17
    Troy Fautanu
    OT
    17
    0
    18
    Byron Murphy II
    DT
    18
    0
    19
    Amarius Mims
    OT
    19
    0
    20
    Brian Thomas Jr.
    WR
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    20
    0
    21
    J.J. McCarthy
    QB
    21
    0
    22
    Nate Wiggins
    CB
    22
    0
    23
    Jer'Zhan Newton
    DT
    23
    0
    24
    Cooper DeJean
    CB
    25
    1
    25
    Chop Robinson
    EDGE
    26
    1
    26
    Tyler Guyton
    OT
    24
    -2
    27
    Kool-Aid McKinstry
    CB
    28
    1
    28
    Graham Barton
    C/G
    27
    -1
    29
    Adonai Mitchell
    WR
    29
    0
    30
    Jackson Powers-Johnson
    C
    30
    0
    31
    Ladd McConkey
    WR
    31
    0
    32
    Bo Nix
    QB
    33
    1
    33
    Darius Robinson
    EDGE
    32
    -1
    34
    Jordan Morgan
    OT
    34
    0
    35
    Ennis Rakestraw Jr.
    CB
    35
    0
    36
    Troy Franklin
    WR
    36
    0
    37
    Kamari Lassiter
    CB
    37
    0
    38
    Keon Coleman
    WR
    38
    0
    39
    Edgerrin Cooper
    LB
    39
    0
    40
    Michael Penix Jr.
    QB
    45
    5
    41
    Xavier Worthy
    WR
    40
    -1
    42
    Payton Wilson
    LB
    41
    -1
    43
    Braden Fiske
    DT
    42
    -1
    44
    Roman Wilson
    WR
    46
    2
    45
    Tyler Nubin
    S
    43
    -2
    46
    Zach Frazier
    C
    44
    -2
    47
    T'Vondre Sweat
    DT
    47
    0
    48
    Junior Colson
    LB
    50
    2
    49
    Ricky Pearsall
    WR
    49
    0
    50
    Ja'Tavion Sanders
    TE
    55
    5
    51
    Chris Braswell
    EDGE
    48
    -3
    52
    Jonathon Brooks
    RB
    51
    -1
    53
    Kingsley Suamataia
    OT
    team-logo-217-50x50.pngBYU
    53
    0
    54
    Kris Jenkins Jr.
    DT
    52
    -2
    55
    Javon Bullard
    S
    54
    -1
    56
    Malachi Corley
    WR
    56
    0
    57
    T.J. Tampa
    CB
    57
    0
    58
    Xavier Legette
    WR
    58
    0
    59
    Marshawn Kneeland
    EDGE
    59
    0
    60
    Bralen Trice
    EDGE
    61
    1
    61
    Christian Haynes
    G
    62
    1
    62
    Cooper Beebe
    G
    63
    1
    63
    Ruke Orhorhoro
    DT
    69
    6
    64
    Adisa Isaac
    EDGE
    60
    -4
    65
    Mike Sainristil
    CB
    67
    2
    66
    Kiran Amegadjie
    OT
    65
    -1
    67
    Patrick Paul
    OT
    66
    -1
    68
    Jaden Hicks
    S
    70
    2
    69
    Ja'Lynn Polk
    WR
    71
    2
    70
    Trey Benson
    RB
    85
    15
    71
    Max Melton
    CB
    74
    3
    72
    Jermaine Burton
    WR
    64
    -8
    73
    Calen Bullock
    S
    team-logo-252-50x50.pngUSC
    73
    0
    74
    Devontez Walker
    WR
    68
    -6
    75
    Blake Fisher
    OT
    81
    6
    76
    Mike Hall Jr.
    DT
    78
    2
    77
    Jonah Elliss
    EDGE
    79
    2
    78
    Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
    LB
    72
    -6
    79
    Blake Corum
    RB
    75
    -4
    80
    Jaylen Wright
    RB
    80
    0
    81
    Jalen McMillan
    WR
    82
    1
    82
    Brandon Dorlus
    DT
    77
    -5
    83
    Maason Smith
    DT
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    87
    4
    84
    Kamren Kinchens
    S
    76
    -8
    85
    Austin Booker
    EDGE
    83
    -2
    86
    Cole Bishop
    S
    88
    2
    87
    Dominick Puni
    G/T
    86
    -1
    88
    Javon Baker
    WR
    team-logo-155-50x50.pngUCF
    84
    -4
    89
    Andru Phillips
    CB
    90
    1
    90
    Cade Stover
    TE
    89
    -1
    91
    Kris Abrams-Draine
    CB
    91
    0
    92
    Renardo Green
    CB
    94
    2
    93
    D.J. James
    CB
    92
    -1
    94
    Cedric Gray
    LB
    95
    1
    95
    Sedrick Van Pran-Granger
    C
    96
    1
    96
    Dadrion Taylor-Demerson
    S
    NR
    NR
    97
    Braelon Allen
    RB
    99
    2
    98
    Cam Hart
    CB
    98
    0
    99
    Khyree Jackson
    CB
    NR
    NR
    100
    Spencer Rattler
    QB
    100
    0

    A few thoughts on the updated board from draft analyst Nick Baumgardner:

    1. How high can Jackson Powers-Johnson climb?

    Oregon center Jackson Powers-Johnson holds steady at No. 30 on the consensus board, which means most everyone agrees he’s at least first-round worthy. But, given that there are a few teams in Round 1 in need of a center, the big question with him  is: How early will he hear his name called?

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    Since 2000, only nine centers have been drafted before pick 25, the last three being Cesar Ruiz (No. 24, New Orleans in 2020), Garrett Bradbury (No. 18, Minnesota in 2019) and Frank Ragnow (No. 18, Detroit in 2018). The Saints just extended Ruiz, Bradbury has 71 career starts and Ragnow is an All-Pro, so it’d be hard to argue against the value of those selections. Baltimore also picked Tyler Linderbaum at No. 25 in 2022, and he’s already a Pro Bowler. Center may not be a popular pick with fans, but it can absolutely be worth it if the player’s good enough.

    The tricky thing with Powers-Johnson is his lack of experience. He started one year at center in college and won a Rimington Trophy, and he looked outstanding at the Senior Bowl, to a point where I’m not sure he lost a single one-on-one rep. But the samples aren’t large.

    I do think he’ll go higher than No. 30, though. Keep an eye on Pittsburgh, which needs a center and holds pick 20. It only takes one team.

    2. Trey Benson on the rise

    The highest riser in this installment was Florida State running back Trey Benson (up 15 spots to No. 70), perhaps earning some residuals from his combine performance early last month. Benson, at 216 pounds, ran a 4.39-second 40-yard dash (with a 1.52 10-yard split). He also posted a 33 1/2-inch vertical jump and a broad jump of 10 feet, 2 inches.

    There’s nothing super surprising about any of that, as Benson’s athleticism at his size has always stood out on tape. But it does bring up the question of how things will unfold for this running back class come draft weekend.

    The best of the bunch, Texas’ Jonathon Brooks, is coming off an injury and doesn’t have a deep tape resume. And there are questions with every back in the class — Benson’s a great athlete, but teams might have concerns with his vision as a ball carrier; Bucky Irvin is incredibly elusive, but he’s very small. We could go down the list.

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    Same time, Benson, Brooks, Irving, Blake Corum, Braelon Allen and Jaylen Wright all could enter a backfield and make an impact next year. Don’t be shocked if we see a RB run on Day 2.

    3. Kamren Kinchens slides

    Miami safety Kamren Kinchens turned in a disappointing 4.65 40 at the combine in March. He did improve on that time with a reported 4.57 during Miami’s pro day later in the month, but he dropped eight spots on the consensus board anyway.

    Though his 40 time isn’t irrelevant, it’s also important to point out that Kinchens’ efficiency as a coverage defender on tape is more impressive than his testing. He showed really good ball skills and range as a deep rover for the Hurricanes and was never afraid to go after the big play (or hit). In November, Kinchens became the first Miami player to record 10 career interceptions since the late great Sean Taylor (Kinchens finished with 11). Elite company there.

    No one expected Kinchens to burn up the track with his 40 time, and he’s got the ball skills and physical confidence to play either safety spot. This is one where you trust the tape (and your defensive backs coach). If Kinchens can eliminate some of the riskier stuff from his game, he has what he needs to be a really good player in the NFL.

    4. Too high, too low …

    Two guys I think are ranked too high on this board: Dallas Turner (No. 😎 and Michael Penix Jr. (No. 40). I like Turner as the top edge in this class, but not as the top defender overall (his Alabama teammate, cornerback Terrion Arnold, gets my vote there). As for Penix, I just can’t get there on him as a top-50 prospect this year, even with the impressive 4.46 40 he reportedly put up.

    Two guys I think are ranked too low: Powers-Johnson (see above) and Florida State wide receiver Keon Coleman (see last month’s consensus board write-up).

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