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When in doubt go with the older player IMO. The younger guys can come in later.

MILF Heaven LOL.

Problem with that is two fold. First, the very wealthy owners would start paying QB's $100M per year (and that in itself would cause other positions to go up) and second, the rest of the players would just demand more to fill the cap 'hole'. It would make it worse for the smaller market teams.

Jets are a Burrow short of that goal

I read somewhere an estimate of $280M by 2024

I think the recent elevation is WR salaries will unintentionally squeeze out other positions. Now we have very high salaries for QB, WR and edge rusher followed by Offensive tackles and cornerbacks. I think most teams would value safeties below these groups so it will now be tough to get the $20m per year safety.

Yes but you said 'good' teams dont start rookies. KC was and is more than a good team. Probbaly more accurate to say good teams dont plan to start any rookies but some deserve the starting spot.

Did KC not start two rookies on the OL last year?

The rationale is that the draft and the scouting process is subjective and different teams need different traits from players. Wait 3 years then we can see what this draft brought or did not. The Pats picked Cole Strange in round 1 and 'most' said he wasa third round pick. Lets see who was right - pats or the consensus of draft folk who are NOT employed by NFL teams.

Now that the team has, finally, embraced free agency as a way to build a team, the draft becomes importnat but NOT critical year to year. Where in the past we had to land like 50% 'good' players each year that is no longer a neccessity. To me, this provides the draft in a different context - very few, if any, immediate starters. Draft and develop and increase depth and competition. If there are large gaps (like OL was), fill in with free agency. When do have a nice run of great players who need to be re-signed, then you revert back to the depth created as you can't sign all the best ones all the time. Solid position to be in.

Read somewhere that PFF graded Volson as the highest OL in the East West Shrine game , and he played there as a guard.

SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Coastal Carolina, Heiligh was an inside and outside receiver in head coach Jamey Chadwell’s spread offense. A record-setting receiver in high school, his production improved each season at Coastal, and he leaves as the school’s all-time leader in catches (191) and receiving yards (2,825). Heiligh is a natural hands-catcher with a high football IQ and excellent timing in his route movements to find soft zones or create leverage vs. man coverage. However, his athletic testing was below average, confirming concerns on tape. Overall, Heiligh is a pedestrian athlete by NFL standards with questionable physicality to make a living on the outside, but he is a route technician with strong hands and a feel for always making himself available for his quarterback. He is a potential slot option

28. JEFFREY GUNTER | Coastal Carolina 6043 | 258 lbs. | rSR. Durham, N.C. (Riverside) 6/1/1999 (age 22.91) #94 BACKGROUND: Jeffrey Gunter grew up in Durham and started playing football at age 5. He enrolled at Riverside High, where he primarily lined up at safety and linebacker and finished his junior season with 28 tackles and 6.0 tackles for loss, earning All-Conference honors. At only 185 pounds, Gunter made the transition to defensive end as a senior and finished his 2016 season with 55 tackles, 12.0 tackles for loss, 8.0 sacks and an interception to earn All-Conference and All-Area honors. He also saw snaps on offense as a senior and had a touchdown reception. A two-star recruit out of high school, Gunter was the No. 178 strongside defensive end in the 2017 recruiting class and the No. 105 recruit in the state of North Carolina. At only 185 pounds as a senior, he went overlooked as a recruit and received several FCS offers, but Coastal Carolina took a chance and gave him his only FBS offer. After two seasons, Gunter entered the transfer portal and signed with Syracuse in February 2019. However, he backed out of that commitment a few weeks later and flipped to NC State, which is located 15 minutes from where he grew up. Gunter made the late switch because his mother (Jennifer) was going through an “ugly” divorce and needed his support. After sitting out the 2019 season with the Wolfpack because of transfer rules, he didn’t fit well with the coaching staff and decided to enter the transfer portal again, landing back at Coastal Carolina for his final two seasons. Gunter has been open about his long bouts of depression and the value of therapy to help mental health. He graduated with his degree in economics (December 2020). Gunter accepted his invitation to the 2022 East-West Shrine Bowl. [172] YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES 2017: (12/1) 26 3.5 0.0 0 0 0 Coastal Carolina 2018: (12/12) 49 14.0 5.0 1 2 0 Coastal Carolina; First Team All-Sun Belt; Led team in TFL, sacks; Blocked FG 2019: Sat out the season because of transfer rules NC State; Originally signed with Syracuse 2020: (12/12) 58 12.5 6.5 6 2 1 Coastal Carolina; First Team All-Sun Belt; Led the FBS in FFs 2021: (12/12) 41 10.0 6.5 2 1 0 Coastal Carolina; Second Team All-Sun Belt; Blocked PAT; Missed bowl game (ankle) Total: (48/37) 174 40.0 18.0 9 5 1 HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP COMBINE 6043 258 33 9 1/4 79 7/8 4.70 2.70 1.57 35 1/2 10’2” 4.35 7.21 - (no bench press — choice) PRO DAY - 256 - - - - - - - - - - 30 (stood on Combine numbers) STRENGTHS: Owns a moldable frame with adequate length ... above-average initial quickness to threaten the corner ... finishes with closing speed that most quarterbacks can’t escape ... rushes with aggression and spurts of power, flashing a forceful long-arm move ... expanded his pass rush arsenal as a senior, including effective cross-chop and club-rip moves ... has a knack for knocking the ball out (eight forced fumbles over the past two seasons) ... alert in the run game, and his hustle boosts his tackle production ... blocked a pair of kicks in college ... productive, durable and played in 48 of a possible 49 games in his four seasons at Coastal. WEAKNESSES: Stiff-hipped with poor flexibility when attempting to bend the corner ... loses his balance with sudden direction change ... late to protect his chest, and can be stymied by the punch of blockers ... still learning how to cleverly use his hands as a rusher ... his power moves lack potency to consistently bully blockers at the point of attack ... inconsistent edge-setter who can be widened out by drive blockers ... his hyper-charged pursuit leaves him out of control as a tackler, sliding off or missing the ball carrier ... NFL coaches view his play demeanor as a positive, but he needs to show more control with his aggression ... missed the 2021 bowl game because of a nagging ankle injury (December 2021). SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Coastal Carolina, Gunter played the “Bandit” edge rusher position in defensive coordinator Chad Staggs’ 3-4 base scheme. His four-year stint with the Chanticleers was sandwiched around one season at NC State, finishing his Coastal Carolina career No. 2 in tackles for loss (40.0) and sacks (18.0), behind his mentor Tarron Jackson (2021 sixth-rounder by the Philadelphia Eagles). Gunter bursts off the snap and flashes disruptive traits thanks to his closing speed and football radar. However, he relies more on aggression and effort than a strategic rush plan and lacks the fluidity to easily patch moves together. Overall, Gunter is tightly wound as a pass rusher, and his inconsistent power could limit his pro ceiling, but he has projectable linear athleticism with the competitive energy that is easy to appreciate. He projects as a subpackage rusher with the potential to be more with continued development. GRADE: 6th Round

"F*ck the ketchup bottle, I eat glass"

9. TYCEN ANDERSON | Toledo 6017 | 209 lbs. | rSR. Toledo, Ohio (St. John’s Jesuit) 6/13/1999 (age 22.88) #1 BACKGROUND: Tycen (TIE-sin) Anderson, who is one of four children, was born and raised in Toledo and started playing various sports at the youth level. He attended Martin Luther King Elementary followed by Rosary Cathedral and then St. John’s Jesuit High. He was a three-year starting cornerback and wide receiver, posting 15 tackles and four interceptions as a sophomore. Anderson was named First Team All-Conference as a junior with 30 tackles, five interceptions and five blocked kicks on special teams. As a senior, he earned First Team All-State, First Team All-District and First Team All-Conference with 40 tackles, five interceptions and six blocked kicks. Anderson also lettered in basketball and track (sprints, jumps, and relays) and finished fourth in the state in the long jump (23’5.5) in 2017. He has personal bests of 11.30 in the 100 meters, 22.80 in the 200 meters (22.80) and 45.31 in the 300-meter hurdles. A three-star recruit out of high school, Anderson was the No. 205 cornerback in the 2017 recruiting class and the No. 79 recruit in the state of Ohio. He received several FCS (Eastern Kentucky) and MAC offers (Bowling Green, Ohio) and even an SEC offer (Kentucky). But Anderson was sold on staying close to family and representing his home city, signing with Toledo as a defensive back. He took advantage of the free year of eligibility and returned for a fifth season in 2021. Anderson graduated with his degree in professional sales from the college of business (December 2020) and is working toward his MBA, carrying a 3.38 GPA. He became the first in his family to earn a college degree. Anderson accepted his invitation to the 2022 Senior Bowl. YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES 2017: (14/0) 31 1.5 0.0 0 5 1 Switched from CB to SS 2018: (13/1) 44 1.0 0.0 0 5 1 2019: (12/12) 84 3.5 0.0 0 5 0 2020: (6/6) 34 1.0 1.0 0 4 0 Second Team All-MAC; Team captain 2021: (10/8) 44 2.0 1.0 1 2 0 First Team All-MAC; Team captain; Missed the first three games with a knee injury Total: (55/27) 237 9.0 2.0 1 21 2 HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP COMBINE 6017 209 33 10 1/8 78 7/8 4.36 2.55 1.50 35 1/2 10’3” 4.28 6.64 - (no bench press – choice) PRO DAY 6017 207 33 1/8 9 3/4 80 1/8 - - - 37 - 4.27 - 12 (stood on Combine runs, broad, 3-cone) STRENGTHS: Tall, stretched-out frame … his strides are long and swift, helping him drive downhill and close ground … has twitch in his lower body to respond laterally with digs or out routes … comfortable with man-to-man concepts thanks to his balanced footwork and range … well-schooled operating in the box while also providing back-end potential … keeps his eyes before his feet as a tackler, relying on his long arms to expand his tackling radius … two-time team captain, and coaches say his leadership rallies the defense … was a high school valedictorian and earned several academic awards at Toledo … his special teams résumé is longer than a roller coaster line at Cedar Point. WEAKNESSES: Needs to play with better anticipation, especially from deep alignment … tends to be cautious with his trigger, leading to inconsistent angles in coverage and pursuit … needs to do a better job seeing through receivers to the quarterback … his off hand will get him in trouble at times (one defensive holding and two pass interference penalties in 2021) … only two career interceptions (and none since September 2018) … needs to be quicker diagnosing run from the box … will lose outside leverage and misjudge backfield speed … played hurt parts of the 2020 season and missed the first three games of his senior year because of a knee injury in 2021 preseason camp … production should be better with his talent and experience. SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Toledo, Anderson played free safety and nickel in defensive coordinator Craig Kuligowski’s scheme. A high school cornerback, he moved to safety for the Rockets and played a hybrid role in the box and vs. the slot, receiving All-MAC honors his final two seasons. Anderson is a toolsy prospect with the range and toughness to impact the game from various alignments on the field. Though he has above-average speed, he would benefit from additional urgency and anticipation to be more disruptive. Overall, Anderson has mediocre playmaking instincts vs. the run and the pass, but he is smart, long and athletic with glowing intangibles. He projects as a four-coverage special teamer who can compete for a nickel role on defense.

Why would the team have to explain that to you?

But player rankings are much different on each board. So this guy on their board is ranked higher.

Will give Duke the benefit of the doubt here but he may be a reach

Carter considered sitting out the 2020 season due to concerns about COVID-19 after friends of his family passed away from complications. After sitting out some practices, he decided to play and eventually led the Gators with five sacks and tied for the team lead with 9.5 tackles for loss among his 36 total stops in 12 games (11 starts). That success extended into the 2021 season, starting 12 games (32 tackles, 11 tackles for loss with eight sacks, two pass breakups) before opting out of the team's bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. The Tampa product played in nine games as a redshirt freshman in 2018 (eight tackles, two pass breakups) and started twice in 13 appearances the following fall (31 tackles, seven for loss with 4.5 sacks). Carter contributed on special teams, blocking a kick in in both 2018 and 2019. He switched from jersey No. 17 to No. 6 as a senior in 2021 as a nod to former Gator and current NFL pass rusher Dante Fowler Jr. -- by Chad Reuter

27. ZACHARY CARTER | Florida 6042 | 282 lbs. | rSR. Tampa, Fla. (Hillsborough) 4/7/1999 (age 23.06) #6 BACKGROUND: Zachary “Zach” Carter was born and raised in North Tampa, Fla., and started playing pee wee football for the Bay Area Raiders at age 7. At age 9, he stopped playing football to focus on baseball and basketball. After returning to football in the eighth grade, Carter enrolled at Hillsborough High, where he was a twosport letterman. He saw varsity reps as a freshman, when he started the final five games at offensive tackle in 2013. Carter started on both the offensive and defensive lines as a sophomore and registered 73 tackles and 3.0 sacks. As a junior, he saw reps at tight end and tackle on offense and was unblockable at defensive end with 76 tackles and 5.5 sacks. Carter played more defensive tackle as a senior and led Hillsborough to an 8-2 finish with 56 tackles and 6.5 sacks to earn 2016 First Team All-County and Tampa Player of the Year honors. He also lettered in basketball and averaged better than 11.0 points and 9.0 rebounds per game over his final three seasons as a power forward on varsity. A four-star recruit out of high school, Carter was the No. 3 strongside defensive end in the 2017 recruiting class and the No. 23 recruit in the state of Florida. His recruitment took off during his junior season, and he collected more than 40 offers, including national powers like Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State. However, Carter grew up dreaming of playing for the Gators and signed with Florida, becoming the school’s top-ranked defensive recruit in the 2017 class. His older brother (Frank) played offensive guard at FCS-level Jackson State (2014-16). Carter skipped Florida’s 2021 bowl game and accepted his invitation to the 2022 Senior Bowl. YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES 2017: Redshirted 2018: (9/0) 8 1.0 0.0 0 2 0 Blocked FG 2019: (13/2) 31 7.0 4.5 1 2 0 DE 2020: (12/11) 36 9.5 5.0 0 2 0 DT; Led team in TFL, sacks 2021: (12/12) 32 11.0 8.0 1 2 0 DT Total: (46/25) 107 28.5 17.5 2 8 0 HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP COMBINE 6042 282 33 1/2 10 1/4 80 3/8 4.99 2.87 1.68 27 1/2 9’2” - - 19 (no shuttles — left hamstring) PRO DAY 6040 287 33 10 1/4 81 5.00 2.66 1.69 - - 4.56 7.34 - (stood on Combine jumps, bench press) STRENGTHS: Moldable frame with adequate length ... accelerates quickly and gets into the chest of blockers ... transfers the energy from his first two steps into contact and leverages his body to generate movement ... hands are a blur ... has an array of rush moves, including an efficient arm-over and swipe technique to slingshot past blockers ... quick to fire through gaps and reset his vision to find the ball carrier ... uses length to lock out, read, and contain the edge in the run game ... wins with extra effort, and his motor stays cranked ... versatile, with experience up and down the defensive line from the A-gap to outside the tackle. WEAKNESSES: Narrow rusher and doesn’t have the body flexibility to bend the edge ... average explosion and inconsistent snap anticipation, a bad combo for a defensive lineman ... doesn’t have natural pass rush instincts ... flashes a variety of rush moves but struggles to efficiently patch them together ... physical hands can knock him off his rush track ... finds himself out-flanked in the run game ... late to unwind from blocks and must improve his shed skills ... lack of flexibility hurts his ability to break down in small spaces, leading to missed tackles ... below-average production and averaged less than three tackles per game as a college starter. SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida, Carter was used up and down the defensive line in former defensive coordinator Todd Grantham’s scheme, spending most of his time as either a three-technique or five-technique. His pass rush efficiency and backfield production improved each season in Gainesville, with 20.5 tackles for loss over his final 24 games. Carter is at his best with a runway, where he can rush head-up with physical hands to generate power, extending into blockers and putting them on skates. He has quick read-and-react ability in the run game, but powerful blockers can out-leverage him, leaving him late to shed. Overall, Carter is limited in the ways he wins as a pass rusher because of his stiffness and undeveloped counters, but he is a high-effort, quick-footed athlete who is well-versed with various defensive techniques. He projects as a rotational base end in the NFL. GRADE: 6th Round

In my mock i picked "Pick is in" in this spot

8. CAM TAYLOR-BRITT | Nebraska 5105 | 196 lbs. | SR. Montgomery, Ala. (Park Crossing) 10/15/1999 (age 22.54) #5 BACKGROUND: Cameron “Cam” Taylor-Britt, who is the oldest of three children, grew up in Montgomery, where he played running back and defensive back in youth football. He attended Prattville High and saw immediate varsity reps as a freshman. Taylor-Britt played wide receiver and safety as a sophomore but missed most of the year with a knee injury. He transitioned to quarterback as a junior, but his 2016 season was cut short because of another knee injury. Taylor-Britt transferred to Park Crossing High during the second semester of his junior year to play his final season of high school football. Replacing Malik Cunningham (who signed with Louisville) at quarterback, Taylor-Britt led Park Crossing to a 10-2 record and the second round of the Class 6A playoffs. He earned 2017 First Team Class 6A All-State honors with 2,496 total yards (1,466 passing, 1,030 rushing) and 30 total touchdowns (16 passing, 14 rushing). A three-star recruit out of high school, Taylor-Britt was the No. 60 athlete in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 25 recruit in the state of Alabama. His first offer was from Michigan followed by several other FBS programs, who were split on his best position between wide receiver and defensive back. Taylor-Britt originally committed to Missouri the summer before his senior year before decommitting three months later. He had a relationship with coach Scott Frost and became a part of his first recruiting class at Nebraska (as a defensive back). He legally added “Britt” to his last name in the summer of 2019 to reflect his stepfather (Darrell Britt) who was also his defensive backs coach in middle and high school. His younger brother (Jaden) is a defensive back at West Alabama. Taylor-Britt graduated with a degree in criminology and criminal justice (December 2021). He accepted his invitation to the 2022 Senior Bowl. [234] YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES 2018: (11/0) 12 0.0 0.0 0 3 0 2019: (11/10) 49 3.0 1.5 4 6 3 Seven starts at SS, three at CB; Led team in INTs, FFs; 38-yard INT TD; Missed one game (illness) 2020: (7/7) 28 3.0 0.0 0 6 2 CB; Second Team All-Big Ten; Led team in PD, INTs 2021: (12/12) 51 3.0 1.0 0 12 1 CB; Second Team All-Big Ten; Led team in PD; Blocked FG; Team captain Total: (41/29) 140 9.0 2.5 4 27 6 HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP COMBINE 5105 196 31 1/2 10 75 4.38 2.56 1.54 - - - - - (no jumps, shuttles, bench press – choice) PRO DAY 5105 207 31 1/4 9 1/8 75 1/2 - - - 33 1/2 9’11” 4.13 6.93 - (stood on Combine runs; no bench) STRENGTHS: Impressive size/speed/strength athlete … keeps his feet underneath him to match different types of receivers from press or off-coverage … tracks the ball well downfield to disrupt the catch point … receiver background and averaged 25.5 yards per interception return with one pick-six (6/150/1) … the word “physical” showed up more than any other word in my film study notes on him … uses his length and aggressive mentality to challenge receivers and quickly disengage from blocks … casts a wide net as a run defender … energetic by nature and the coaches say the temperature of the room rises when he enters … first-in, last-out type of guy and was voted a senior captain … experienced at both cornerback and safety … started 29 of Nebraska’s last 30 games. WEAKNESSES: Upright pattern movements … quick-twitch receivers will expose lagging redirect skills … often turns his hips at the snap and finds his body positioned incorrectly downfield … can be run off the top of routes and late to sink/react at the stem … his route anticipation remains a work in progress … grabby tendencies (eight total penalties the last two seasons) … inexperienced jam technique in press … guilty of biting on play-action and backfield fakes … eager run defender, but he had multiple missed tackles on several tapes … has some punt return experience but was a below-average decision-maker in this role … avoided injury in college, but missed most of his sophomore and junior years in high school: he suffered a torn meniscus in his right knee (September 2015) as a sophomore and required surgery; he suffered a torn ACL, two meniscal tears and a fractured patella in his right knee (September 2016) and required surgery. SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Nebraska, Taylor-Britt lined up at left cornerback in defensive coordinator Erik Chinander’s 4-2-5 base scheme. An All-State quarterback in high school, he transitioned to the secondary full-time in Lincoln and was productive on (24 passes defended and six interceptions during the last three seasons) and off (energetic and locker room leader) the field. Along with his plus size and length, Taylor-Britt has the springy athleticism and body control to disrupt passes and the toughness to be a force in run support, which will translate to cornerback or safety. He played a lot of bail and side-saddle technique in college and his patchy transition skills often left him out of position in coverage and contributed to missed tackles. Overall, Taylor-Britt must improve his route recognition at all levels, but his physical traits (size, length, athleticism), competitive nature, and ball skills give him NFL starting potential in press-man or zone-heavy schemes. GRADE: 2nd-3rd Round (No. 57 overall)

Maybe bye Vonn Bell

What did we give up for the trade?

Maybe we pick that DE we brought in, was it Malone? From somewhere like Eastern Kentucky