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  1. 45 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:

     

    I'm sure he wants more money than Becton, but with the increase in the cap and Jonah's salary coming off the books that shouldn't have been a factor.

     

    The Bengals should be trying to get the absolute best 5 players they can get to play offensive line, not who the mediocre at best offensive line coach has a relationship with...seriously, what are they doing???

    And not just the best 5, we need some usefull depth. The Fords and Cartmans of the world are not exactly bench strength

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  2. I will post this article from The Athletic, but not sure how the format will display, revised consensus top 100:

     

    2024 NFL Draft Consensus Board
      PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL LAST CHANGE
    1
    Marvin Harrison Jr.
    WR
    2
    1
    2
    Caleb Williams
    QB
    team-logo-252-50x50.pngUSC
    1
    -1
    3
    Drake Maye
    QB
    3
    0
    4
    Malik Nabers
    WR
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    8
    4
    5
    Rome Odunze
    WR
    6
    1
    6
    Brock Bowers
    TE
    4
    -2
    7
    Joe Alt
    OT
    5
    -2
    8
    Dallas Turner
    EDGE
    9
    1
    9
    Jayden Daniels
    QB
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    10
    1
    10
    Jared Verse
    EDGE
    11
    1
    11
    Olu Fashanu
    OT
    7
    -4
    12
    JC Latham
    OT
    12
    0
    13
    Terrion Arnold
    CB
    15
    2
    14
    Taliese Fuaga
    G/T
    14
    0
    15
    Quinyon Mitchell
    CB
    16
    1
    16
    Laiatu Latu
    EDGE
    13
    -3
    17
    Troy Fautanu
    G/T
    25
    8
    18
    Byron Murphy II
    DT
    19
    1
    19
    Amarius Mims
    OT
    18
    -1
    20
    Brian Thomas Jr.
    WR
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    21
    1
    21
    Nate Wiggins
    CB
    17
    -4
    22
    J.J. McCarthy
    QB
    26
    4
    23
    Jer'Zhan Newton
    DT
    23
    0
    24
    Tyler Guyton
    OT
    24
    0
    25
    Cooper DeJean
    CB
    20
    -5
    26
    Chop Robinson
    EDGE
    28
    2
    27
    Graham Barton
    OL
    32
    5
    28
    Kool-Aid McKinstry
    CB
    22
    -6
    29
    Adonai Mitchell
    WR
    33
    4
    30
    Jackson Powers-Johnson
    C
    29
    -1
    31
    Ladd McConkey
    WR
    36
    5
    32
    Darius Robinson
    Edge
    43
    11
    33
    Bo Nix
    QB
    30
    -3
    34
    Jordan Morgan
    G/T
    35
    1
    35
    Ennis Rakestraw Jr.
    CB
    31
    -4
    36
    Troy Franklin
    WR
    34
    -2
    37
    Kamari Lassiter
    CB
    37
    0
    38
    Keon Coleman
    WR
    27
    -11
    39
    Edgerrin Cooper
    LB
    40
    1
    40
    Xavier Worthy
    WR
    39
    -1
    41
    Payton Wilson
    LB
    51
    10
    42
    Braden Fiske
    DT
    86
    44
    43
    Tyler Nubin
    S
    47
    4
    44
    Zach Frazier
    C/G
    45
    1
    45
    Michael Penix Jr.
    QB
    38
    -7
    46
    Roman Wilson
    WR
    47
    1
    47
    T'Vondre Sweat
    DT
    61
    14
    48
    Chris Braswell
    EDGE
    42
    -6
    49
    Ricky Pearsall
    WR
    78
    29
    50
    Junior Colson
    LB
    63
    13
    51
    Jonathon Brooks
    RB
    60
    9
    52
    Kris Jenkins Jr.
    DT
    50
    -2
    53
    Kingsley Suamataia
    OT
    team-logo-217-50x50.pngBYU
    44
    -9
    54
    Javon Bullard
    S
    52
    -2
    55
    Ja'Tavion Sanders
    TE
    41
    -14
    56
    Malachi Corley
    WR
    62
    6
    57
    T.J. Tampa
    CB
    55
    -2
    58
    Xavier Legette
    WR
    59
    1
    59
    Marshawn Kneeland
    EDGE
    71
    12
    60
    Adisa Isaac
    EDGE
    58
    -2
    61
    Bralen Trice
    EDGE
    48
    -13
    62
    Christian Haynes
    G
    77
    15
    63
    Cooper Beebe
    IOL
    66
    3
    64
    Jermaine Burton
    WR
    69
    5
    65
    Kiran Amegadjie
    OT
    72
    7
    66
    Patrick Paul
    OT
    56
    -10
    67
    Mike Sainristil
    CB
    68
    1
    68
    Devontez Walker
    WR
    49
    -19
    69
    Ruke Orhorhoro
    DT
    76
    7
    70
    Jaden Hicks
    S
    64
    -6
    71
    Ja'Lynn Polk
    WR
    53
    -18
    72
    Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
    LB
    65
    -7
    73
    Calen Bullock
    S
    team-logo-252-50x50.pngUSC
    57
    -16
    74
    Max Melton
    CB
    NR
    NR
    75
    Blake Corum
    RB
    75
    0
    76
    Kamren Kinchens
    S
    54
    -22
    77
    Brandon Dorlus
    DT
    74
    -3
    78
    Michael Hall Jr.
    DT
    73
    -5
    79
    Jonah Elliss
    EDGE
    67
    -12
    80
    Jaylen Wright
    RB
    NR
    NR
    81
    Blake Fisher
    OT
    85
    4
    82
    Jalen McMillan
    WR
    81
    -1
    83
    Austin Booker
    EDGE
    NR
    NR
    84
    Javon Baker
    WR
    team-logo-155-50x50.pngUCF
    NR
    NR
    85
    Trey Benson
    RB
    84
    -1
    86
    Dominick Puni
    G
    87
    1
    87
    Maason Smith
    DT
    team-logo-267-50x50.pngLSU
    88
    1
    88
    Cole Bishop
    S
    96
    8
    89
    Cade Stover
    TE
    NR
    NR
    90
    Andru Phillips
    CB
    NR
    NR
    91
    Kris Abrams-Draine
    CB
    82
    -9
    92
    D.J. James
    CB
    NR
    NR
    93
    Zak Zinter
    G
    99
    6
    94
    Renardo Green
    CB
    NR
    NR
    95
    Cedric Gray
    LB
    90
    -5
    96
    Sedrick Van Pran
    C
    83
    -13
    97
    Theo Johnson
    TE
    NR
    NR
    98
    Cam Hart
    CB
    94
    -4
    99
    Braelon Allen
    RB
    80
    -19
    100
    Spencer Rattler
    QB
    NR
    NR
  3. Just now, BlackJesus said:

    I wouldn't even trade him to Baltimore for their 1st Rd pick.  As it's never a good idea to make a division rival better. 

     

    The only way I would even consider trading him to the Ravens would be for like 3 first Rd picks. Something that might cripple their future regardless of how good he was. 

    I would tell them "all your picks in 2024 and 2025", otherwise f*ck off.

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  4. 17 minutes ago, spicoli said:


    The Bengals absolutely will not reach to fill a need. That is guaranteed. 

    Agreed. That is the only guarantee of the drfat. Oh wait, other than we will not select at QB anywhere near the top....2 guarantees. Amongst the gaurantees are.....nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

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  5. 19 minutes ago, SF2 said:

    I dunno. There isn’t much history of a QB literally being given away or cut by 2 decent organizations then having a Renaissance and becoming good. Wilson is just weird and he has never been a great QB.   
     

    Fields has been terrible in Chicago.  Sure, you can blame the organization to some extent but he really likes throwing the ball to the wrong colored jersey.   If you can’t do it by year 3 you simply can’t do it. 
     

    I don’t see how taking on 2 marginal and cheap QBs can be a great move.  You are basically giving up on yet another season. 

    Maybe I should have said a good move for us? LOL.

     

    I see these as good moves in the sense that they quickly recognized Pickett Mittens was not going to cut it so these moves are transitioanl to keep them 'competitive' or seen as such. Wilson is a head case but so was Jen and too many other Stealers to count. Fields is a cheap back-up shot in the dark type at this point. 

     

    The problem for almost all teams in the AFC is theysee thier QB's compared to Mahomes, Burrow, Allen and it is bad enough with one of those types in the conference let alone 3. 

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  6. I would suspect they would be offerring Becton a marginal/reasonable base salasry with bonuses available for snap counts or games started. He is , at this point, a backup and even if we sign him, there is a fiar chance that a RT we drafted in iether R1 or R2 could outplay him. 

     

    Still early in the post season here, what date did we pick up Brown last year?

  7. Hate the Stealers as much as anyone but I have to say these were 2 good moves. Wilson is probably done but they are paying him nothing and as much as he is a locker room shithead, the Stoolers seem to actually like that. 
     

    Fields is better than Pickett and I will give the Stoolers credit for realizing what most knew, Pickett was never going to develop. So they cut thier losses. 
     

    neither of these guys or Burrow or Lamar obviously but they will keep the Stoolers in the mix. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

    The NFL has the "funding rule" which requires guaranteed future payments to be put in escrow. It's an obsolete relic from the days when teams folded with players not getting paid. But it hasn't been needed since the depression.

     

    Florio checked on it last year to see how much the Browns had put in escrow for Watson. It turned out the answer was zero. It's a league rule, not in the CBA but the owners like having it around so some of them can plead cash flow problems. But it's no longer necessary and doesn't seem to be enforced anyway.

     

    Zero for the idiot Watson? wow, did not know that. I suppose one could argue each contract is essentially secured by the NFL so no need for escrow. 

     

    Appreciate your insight on this.

  9. 1 hour ago, snarkster said:

    From what I've seen there is a grand total of four guys in the draft who could remotely be considered a NT:

     

    Sweat (Texas)  Rd 2-3

    McKinley (Miss St)  Rd 3-4

    Jefferson (LSU)  Rd 5-6

    Anderson (FAU)  Rd 6-FA

     

    Am I missing anyone?

    Justin Rogers (Auburn) 6-3 346 lbs

    Evan Anderson (FAU) - 6-3 356 lbs

  10. 2 hours ago, JC said:

    If they franchise him again next year I think I’ll rip my hair out. If you are going to guarantee two years in full - why not do it now and get an extra two years of control.
     

    I think it’s certainly possible. But it will be frustrating and probably a signal that things are changing as much as we would hope or they’re cash poor.

    They are not cash poor. The league allows each team to have a line of credit up to 50% of the franchise value; now some owners may be over leveraged in other ways and can't access this but the Brown family would have little to no debt. Having said that - the USE of a line of credit today, to be repaid in the future has not really been part of thier make-up. But we have now given several contracts though with large guarantees (and I believe these amounts have to be put in escrow) which no doubt has moved us into the line of credit mode. Up front money and guarantees are now 'normal' practice for contracts so we have no choice but to adjust. 

    For Tee, he may want say $50M up front/guaranteed which means $50M out the door today compared to say $45M - $50M spread out over the next two years if they double tag him. It is a big difference. 

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  11. 1 hour ago, MichaelWeston said:

    Vikings add another first rounder. Trying to collect picks to move up to get a QB I think. 

    This is an interesting trade since it even involves a 2025 pick:

     

    Per multiple reports, Minnesota has acquired the No. 23 overall pick and No. 232 in the seventh round. In exchange, Houston has received No. 42 in the second round, No. 188 in the sixth round, and a second-round pick in 2025.

    That gives the Vikings two first-round selections in this year’s draft, as they also have their original No. 11 overall pick after finishing the season 7-10.

    The pick at No. 23 is originally from the Browns, who sent the selection to the Texans as part of the deal for quarterback Deshaun Watson.

    By making this trade in mid-March, the Vikings have some options before the draft. They could potentially package No. 11 and No. 23 to move up into the top 10 for a quarterback. Or if that’s not enough, they could package No. 11 and No. 23 with a player — perhaps receiver Justin Jefferson, who is seeking a new contract — to move up for the quarterback they want.

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