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  1. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21446162/vontaze-burfict-cincinnati-bengals-confirms-cursing-provocation-referees?sf173539675=1 Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict says NFL officials are in fact trying to provoke him. In his first comments since he was ejected Sunday for making contact with an official, Burfict confirmed a report earlier this week by ESPN's Adam Schefter that game officials are trying to get him to react. "The refs, they come up to me, talking to me disrespectfully, wanting me to curse back at them, but me cursing back at them isn't going to help me," Burfict said Friday. "I'm not going to get a flag in my favor next time around, but that's the way they handle business, I guess. I told Coach I'm just going to try to stay out of the refs' way." Late in the first half of Sunday's loss to Tennessee, Burfict made contact with down judge Jeff Bergman after the official put his arm up to stop a back-and-forth with a Titans offensive lineman. Burfict said he was just trying to lift the official's arm off him. "I knew I didn't do anything bad," Burfict said. "Obviously, you are not supposed to touch the officials, but I didn't think I touched him maliciously at all. I pretty much said, 'Excuse me.'" In Sunday's case, it was the arm in front of him that caused Burfict's reaction, but he said it is not uncommon for officials to curse at him in games, adding that Bergman cursed at him as he made the ejection call. Burfict originally didn't want to comment on whether he has been provoked because he doesn't "want to get on the refs' bad side." However, Burfict said he feels like he already is targeted unfairly. "I don't have crazy flags this year," he said. "... The refs aren't calling flags on me. It's more waiting for me to do something, and they see what happened first, but they are waiting for me to react rather than throwing something when they see a guy push me or do something that's not within the rules." After Monday's comments from a teammate that Burfict is being targeted by officials, an NFL spokesman denied those charges, saying it is not unusual for officials to come into contact with players and that there has been nothing unusual involving officials' interactions with Burfict. Burfict was not suspended for Sunday's incident but faces a possible fine. He already had been suspended for the first three games of this season and has been fined or suspended by the league 11 times, resulting in losses of more than $2.5 million over six seasons. Bengals defensive coordinator Paul Guenther said he has repeatedly told Burfict that he will be "held to a different set of standards" because of his history and expressed frustration from losing one of his best players. Burfict is adamant that if officials are watching him more closely than others, more calls should be made against his opponents. "If they are watching out for me, they should always see what the person does first," Burfict said. "Like in the Tennessee game, one of the O-linemen had me in between their legs like squeezing me. If they are obviously watching me like they say they are, they should see what the O-lineman or somebody else does to me to get me to react." Burfict expressed disappointment that he wasn't able to help his team more Sunday. After his ejection, DeMarco Murray scored on a rushing touchdown to put the Titans ahead 14-6 with 5:12 left in the second quarter. The 6-foot-1, 255-pound linebacker said he will continue to try not to react but admitted it's in his nature to defend himself. "I still think they shouldn't be allowed to touch us if we can't even touch them, not even in a physical way," Burfict said. "The thing about it is the game of football is physical, and in the heat of the moment, when a guy is talking s--- to you and you are getting pushed after the play and the ref comes up and puts his arm on you like you are the one that started something or pushed somebody first, every time that happens, it kind of gets old. You know you're not the one that started it, and the ref comes up to you -- it gets old. "In the heat of the moment, when someone is touching you, you're going to obviously get their hands off you, as well. That's how I was raised. I was raised to defend myself always."
  2. 2018 Coaching prospects

    Oh I do believe that this year is the most likely in quite some time that he'll actually go elsewhere or just retire, but I'm thinking back and I also thought he would have been anywhere but Cincinnati after 2010 and then let go after 2013 as well. Add 2015 to the list actually but I kinda figured the whole "our QB was injured" card would be played even though that was the biggest meltdown I've seen in the playoffs and you have to hold the coaching staff responsible for that as much (if not more) than the players. I'm just saying that we've been here at least one other time before, it's not a guarantee Marvin is gone just because he doesn't have an extension already. We won what, 4 games that year (2010)? Our franchise QB decides he'd rather sit on his couch than play another snap for Mike Brown? Hey Marvin, here's an extension! I dunno, I have this weird feeling that we aren't seeing the last of Marv even though a lot of signs point that direction.
  3. 2018 Coaching prospects

    For everybody that thinks it's a 100% chance that Marvin is gone, isn't that the same thing we all thought in 2010? Just throwing that out there.
  4. Current 2018 Draft Order

    That's true I forgot about that part. Honestly, I'm not really rooting for more wins at this point, I'd rather have the higher draft picks. The team might actually be forced to pick a once a decade type of prospect like Fitzpatrick if we end up in the top 5. I'm afraid of another TE or something if we drop to the mid round. Maybe we'll get lucky and draft another injured CB.
  5. Just an FYI you can't get a 3rd rounder for Whit since he's a 10+ year vet, so we're only looking at one 3rd round comp this year (Zeitler). To the bold, I'm in agreement with that, it would be nice to see a lot of new faces around for a re-build of the coaching staff. The issue is like I've previously outlined in this thread, there's a 0% chance there's a trade available that involves Andy for a starting caliber LT. There's really no reason to entertain a possibility that isn't even there. I'm not in love with Andy and I know we need a LT, but it's not happening. 1. No team is trading their starting, most important blocker to obtain a QB. 2. No team that needs a QB has multiple starting caliber LTs on their roster. 3. We aren't trading Andy Dalton in general, let alone in a player-for-player trade. If we did trade him I'd imagine it would be for high picks to try to obtain our next QB. 4. Any team that NEEDS a QB will already be in a good position to draft one in the upcoming draft. Jacksonville might be the only good team in the league without a good QB and without good draft position. 5. If you don't think very highly of a 30 year old Andy, what makes you think we're going to get a good return for him? I thought he wasn't good? Why would a team pay out a starting LT for a not so good QB? I don't understand your logic there. Andy isn't good enough for us to keep, but some team is going to give us their LT for him? Uhhhhhhhh?
  6. Everyone shits on Fred but I'd have to guess that he's played football at a higher level for a more respected coaching staff than 99% of other board members. I know his personal background a bit so it's not just some wild speculation from me either. Dude is kind of a dick and obviously likes to pick a fight, but I don't see the big issue with him most of the time
  7. Current 2018 Draft Order

    I'd imagine so. I don't know why I even think about a pick like that though, we'll just end up taking an injured WR or CB anyway. Last offseason at one point I said I'd be OK with basically any projected 1st rounder at #9 not named John Ross and look what happened, maybe I should spend the next few months talking about how terrible Minkah Fitzpatrick will translate to the NFL.
  8. Current 2018 Draft Order

    So refreshing. Isn't it awesome sitting here in mid-November discussing whether we'd rather have Minkah Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, or Quenton Nelson instead of something dumb like what our playoff implications will be once we beat the Broncos this weekend? THE BENGALS ARE BACK BAYBAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!
  9. I just don't think it's a realistic option even if the team did want to trade Andy for a tackle. Which of the other 31 teams has 2 starting caliber LTs (let's face it, no team is trading for a QB just to get rid of one of their best guys to block for him) and also needs a QB bad enough to trade for one but isn't drafting high enough to take one of the top prospects? I probably think Andy Dalton is better than a lot of other folks here, but let's be real, the dude is 30 years old and isn't a GREAT quarterback. Who is going to give up a decent to good LT for him? Any team with a good enough LT that we'd want that also happens to needs a QB that badly will just draft Jackson, Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, etc. before trading for a guy like Andy.
  10. A.J. on Vontaze Burfict

    Eh, I've seen some no name, random LBs/DBs get flagged for questionable hits too. Doesn't always mean the refs are out to get the guy. Is this something constantly happening to Burfict? IMO our safeties have been flagged on more bullshit calls in the past 10 years than Vontaze. Reggie crushes someone with his shoulder into the chest = flag.
  11. Ah I thought he was talking overall. My b Yeah I'm not sure how many attempted tackles he has but I'm just saying at this point in his career, Maualuga ain't very good. He was never that elite LB that Marvin always tried to find, but he wasn't as bad as people made him out to be in a few of his years here. He was an OK LB, glad the team decided to part ways with him after he declined a bit though.
  12. A.J. on Vontaze Burfict

    Lol He's not being discriminated against. He does (on film, no less) 100% of the dumb shit he gets in trouble for, there's not much more to it. I love Burfict but the dude can be wreckless (I don't mind that part as much) and he has a habit of doing unnecessary stuff after the whistle. The media and dumb casual NFL fans absolutely have it out for Burfict, but the media and fans don't really matter much when it comes to that. The NFL has only punished Burfict for breaking the rules, seems kinda like it makes sense to me.
  13. He's played the 130th most LB snaps in the league and only 30 LBs have missed more tackles than him. He's pretty bad.
  14. I don't want this to devolve into another Andy thread, but when I see stuff like this is drives me crazy. There are so many legitimate things to bitch about with Andy yet people need to make shit up about the guy. Andy's contract averages less than every QB in the league off their rookie contract not named Tyrod Taylor, Mike Glennon, and Jay Cutler (being signed off his couch). Say whatever you will about Andy, but the dude has, easily, the BEST QB contract in the NFL right now of any guy that isn't on their rookie deal. The absolute last thing you can complain about with him is his team friendly contract. Averages per year rank (starters only) off their rookie contracts: Andy - 19th of 22 Burfict - 12th (ALL LBs, including big $$$ rushers) of 50+ Kirkpatrick - 11th of 50+ Pacman - 21st of 50+ AJ Green - 3rd of 50+ Relative to their position, Andy gets paid like one of the worst QBs in the league and regardless of your opinion of the guy, he's obviously not among the worst starters in the NFL. His contract isn't stopping us from building a team so just cut it out with the nonsense.
  15. Hopefully. He played a few good games last year and had an OK season overall so I had decent expectations for his contract year, but he's been awwwwwwwwwwfffffuullllllllllll this season. Like historically bad C play. Maybe it's because it's so fresh in my mind, but I don't recall ever being this baffled before when watching a center play football at the NFL level.

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