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  1. 2017 Play off Picture

    That's where I'm at. This isn't a good team. We can only beat the absolute worst teams in the league it seems. When we play anyone decent we get shut out or have like 150 yards of total offense, no sacks, few turnovers, no big ST plays, etc. I'm glad people can be this positive, but I have a feeling everyone will be super down again within the next 2 or 3 weeks. Back to reality we shall go!
  2. 2017 Play off Picture

    Are people seriously talking about making the playoffs and winning a game? lmfao I hate being so negative but we actually just suck this year. It's crazy how beating a couple of really, really, really shitty teams can make people go from thinking we're picking top 5 in the draft to having a chance of winning a playoff game. Yikes.
  3. I mean our RG play has been bad enough that I just want to see any other name at that spot at this point. You've mentioned Hubbard in your posts, and while I don't think he's very good, he played some OG in high school and college so I'd give him a shot there before Mewhort. When Fluker was where? Alabama? Lol I hope that's not what you're talking about. It's not like Fluker is a guy that's only been around for a year and we aren't sure what his development will be like. He wasn't good in San Diego and he isn't good in NY. With Fluker on the line the Chargers were widely known as the team with the worst OL in football for his last couple of years there. He wasn't the diamond in the rough on the line either, he was contributing to them being awful. 2017 Andre isn't amazing but if he keeps up playing reasonably well then that's just 1 less spot we need to worry about an upgrade. DJ Fluker is awful.
  4. 2018 Coaching prospects

    He coached the team for an entire year without a contract (something people act like hasn't happened before), we won 4 games that year and he was handed an extension. The point is that there isn't an exact science for if Mike will/won't give Marv extensions, there's no guarantee he isn't our coach after this year. You, of all people, should understand that you can't predict something like this with 100% accuracy. There's a very real chance Marvin Lewis is our HC in 2018.
  5. 2017 Play off Picture

    The run blocking is near historically bad. We're 32nd in both rushing yards and YPC. The next team is Arizona who is missing their star back and they also have the 5th passing YPG, so it's not like they need to have high rushing yardage. We're 27th in passing yards and 32nd in rushing yards...WTF? The Saints have more rushing yards in the last 4 games than we have in all 10 of ours. The Jaguars have had 135+ yards is all but 1 game this year. Wouldn't it be crazy to have a run game like that? We never do, and this year is even worse than usual. We have talented RBs too, Mixon and Gio aren't terrible, it's clearly an OL problem.
  6. If Fred is being down on the team you know that we have some legitimate issues right now. I try to never root for the team to lose but I don't see the point in making the playoffs this year. If I lived in the area and attended the games, that would be the only way I'd root for wins right now so I could enjoy myself more watching them live. We can't make a serious run with this team, backing into the playoffs just ensures that we extend Marvin's WC losing streak and then miss out on the top prospects. Our offense is equally boring and terrible and then our defense isn't the 2000 Ravens to make up for it. We aren't even excelling at ST like we have in the past. We suck.
  7. Big 'Dre is better than Fluker. Richburg would be fine if we can't land Jensen. I think one of the low R1/high R2 LTs end up being better suited for immediately starting in the NFL than McGlinchey, but I wouldn't hate the pick to see if he can hang here. Haarrrdddd pass on Mewhort. Dude has some serious issues with that knee, this wasn't just a freak accident that put him on IR.
  8. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21446162/vontaze-burfict-cincinnati-bengals-confirms-cursing-provocation-referees?sf173539675=1 Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict says NFL officials are in fact trying to provoke him. In his first comments since he was ejected Sunday for making contact with an official, Burfict confirmed a report earlier this week by ESPN's Adam Schefter that game officials are trying to get him to react. "The refs, they come up to me, talking to me disrespectfully, wanting me to curse back at them, but me cursing back at them isn't going to help me," Burfict said Friday. "I'm not going to get a flag in my favor next time around, but that's the way they handle business, I guess. I told Coach I'm just going to try to stay out of the refs' way." Late in the first half of Sunday's loss to Tennessee, Burfict made contact with down judge Jeff Bergman after the official put his arm up to stop a back-and-forth with a Titans offensive lineman. Burfict said he was just trying to lift the official's arm off him. "I knew I didn't do anything bad," Burfict said. "Obviously, you are not supposed to touch the officials, but I didn't think I touched him maliciously at all. I pretty much said, 'Excuse me.'" In Sunday's case, it was the arm in front of him that caused Burfict's reaction, but he said it is not uncommon for officials to curse at him in games, adding that Bergman cursed at him as he made the ejection call. Burfict originally didn't want to comment on whether he has been provoked because he doesn't "want to get on the refs' bad side." However, Burfict said he feels like he already is targeted unfairly. "I don't have crazy flags this year," he said. "... The refs aren't calling flags on me. It's more waiting for me to do something, and they see what happened first, but they are waiting for me to react rather than throwing something when they see a guy push me or do something that's not within the rules." After Monday's comments from a teammate that Burfict is being targeted by officials, an NFL spokesman denied those charges, saying it is not unusual for officials to come into contact with players and that there has been nothing unusual involving officials' interactions with Burfict. Burfict was not suspended for Sunday's incident but faces a possible fine. He already had been suspended for the first three games of this season and has been fined or suspended by the league 11 times, resulting in losses of more than $2.5 million over six seasons. Bengals defensive coordinator Paul Guenther said he has repeatedly told Burfict that he will be "held to a different set of standards" because of his history and expressed frustration from losing one of his best players. Burfict is adamant that if officials are watching him more closely than others, more calls should be made against his opponents. "If they are watching out for me, they should always see what the person does first," Burfict said. "Like in the Tennessee game, one of the O-linemen had me in between their legs like squeezing me. If they are obviously watching me like they say they are, they should see what the O-lineman or somebody else does to me to get me to react." Burfict expressed disappointment that he wasn't able to help his team more Sunday. After his ejection, DeMarco Murray scored on a rushing touchdown to put the Titans ahead 14-6 with 5:12 left in the second quarter. The 6-foot-1, 255-pound linebacker said he will continue to try not to react but admitted it's in his nature to defend himself. "I still think they shouldn't be allowed to touch us if we can't even touch them, not even in a physical way," Burfict said. "The thing about it is the game of football is physical, and in the heat of the moment, when a guy is talking s--- to you and you are getting pushed after the play and the ref comes up and puts his arm on you like you are the one that started something or pushed somebody first, every time that happens, it kind of gets old. You know you're not the one that started it, and the ref comes up to you -- it gets old. "In the heat of the moment, when someone is touching you, you're going to obviously get their hands off you, as well. That's how I was raised. I was raised to defend myself always."
  9. 2018 Coaching prospects

    Oh I do believe that this year is the most likely in quite some time that he'll actually go elsewhere or just retire, but I'm thinking back and I also thought he would have been anywhere but Cincinnati after 2010 and then let go after 2013 as well. Add 2015 to the list actually but I kinda figured the whole "our QB was injured" card would be played even though that was the biggest meltdown I've seen in the playoffs and you have to hold the coaching staff responsible for that as much (if not more) than the players. I'm just saying that we've been here at least one other time before, it's not a guarantee Marvin is gone just because he doesn't have an extension already. We won what, 4 games that year (2010)? Our franchise QB decides he'd rather sit on his couch than play another snap for Mike Brown? Hey Marvin, here's an extension! I dunno, I have this weird feeling that we aren't seeing the last of Marv even though a lot of signs point that direction.
  10. 2018 Coaching prospects

    For everybody that thinks it's a 100% chance that Marvin is gone, isn't that the same thing we all thought in 2010? Just throwing that out there.
  11. Current 2018 Draft Order

    That's true I forgot about that part. Honestly, I'm not really rooting for more wins at this point, I'd rather have the higher draft picks. The team might actually be forced to pick a once a decade type of prospect like Fitzpatrick if we end up in the top 5. I'm afraid of another TE or something if we drop to the mid round. Maybe we'll get lucky and draft another injured CB.
  12. Just an FYI you can't get a 3rd rounder for Whit since he's a 10+ year vet, so we're only looking at one 3rd round comp this year (Zeitler). To the bold, I'm in agreement with that, it would be nice to see a lot of new faces around for a re-build of the coaching staff. The issue is like I've previously outlined in this thread, there's a 0% chance there's a trade available that involves Andy for a starting caliber LT. There's really no reason to entertain a possibility that isn't even there. I'm not in love with Andy and I know we need a LT, but it's not happening. 1. No team is trading their starting, most important blocker to obtain a QB. 2. No team that needs a QB has multiple starting caliber LTs on their roster. 3. We aren't trading Andy Dalton in general, let alone in a player-for-player trade. If we did trade him I'd imagine it would be for high picks to try to obtain our next QB. 4. Any team that NEEDS a QB will already be in a good position to draft one in the upcoming draft. Jacksonville might be the only good team in the league without a good QB and without good draft position. 5. If you don't think very highly of a 30 year old Andy, what makes you think we're going to get a good return for him? I thought he wasn't good? Why would a team pay out a starting LT for a not so good QB? I don't understand your logic there. Andy isn't good enough for us to keep, but some team is going to give us their LT for him? Uhhhhhhhh?
  13. Everyone shits on Fred but I'd have to guess that he's played football at a higher level for a more respected coaching staff than 99% of other board members. I know his personal background a bit so it's not just some wild speculation from me either. Dude is kind of a dick and obviously likes to pick a fight, but I don't see the big issue with him most of the time
  14. Current 2018 Draft Order

    I'd imagine so. I don't know why I even think about a pick like that though, we'll just end up taking an injured WR or CB anyway. Last offseason at one point I said I'd be OK with basically any projected 1st rounder at #9 not named John Ross and look what happened, maybe I should spend the next few months talking about how terrible Minkah Fitzpatrick will translate to the NFL.
  15. Current 2018 Draft Order

    So refreshing. Isn't it awesome sitting here in mid-November discussing whether we'd rather have Minkah Fitzpatrick, Lamar Jackson, or Quenton Nelson instead of something dumb like what our playoff implications will be once we beat the Broncos this weekend? THE BENGALS ARE BACK BAYBAAYYY!!!!!!!!!!
  16. I just don't think it's a realistic option even if the team did want to trade Andy for a tackle. Which of the other 31 teams has 2 starting caliber LTs (let's face it, no team is trading for a QB just to get rid of one of their best guys to block for him) and also needs a QB bad enough to trade for one but isn't drafting high enough to take one of the top prospects? I probably think Andy Dalton is better than a lot of other folks here, but let's be real, the dude is 30 years old and isn't a GREAT quarterback. Who is going to give up a decent to good LT for him? Any team with a good enough LT that we'd want that also happens to needs a QB that badly will just draft Jackson, Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, etc. before trading for a guy like Andy.
  17. A.J. on Vontaze Burfict

    Eh, I've seen some no name, random LBs/DBs get flagged for questionable hits too. Doesn't always mean the refs are out to get the guy. Is this something constantly happening to Burfict? IMO our safeties have been flagged on more bullshit calls in the past 10 years than Vontaze. Reggie crushes someone with his shoulder into the chest = flag.
  18. Ah I thought he was talking overall. My b Yeah I'm not sure how many attempted tackles he has but I'm just saying at this point in his career, Maualuga ain't very good. He was never that elite LB that Marvin always tried to find, but he wasn't as bad as people made him out to be in a few of his years here. He was an OK LB, glad the team decided to part ways with him after he declined a bit though.
  19. A.J. on Vontaze Burfict

    Lol He's not being discriminated against. He does (on film, no less) 100% of the dumb shit he gets in trouble for, there's not much more to it. I love Burfict but the dude can be wreckless (I don't mind that part as much) and he has a habit of doing unnecessary stuff after the whistle. The media and dumb casual NFL fans absolutely have it out for Burfict, but the media and fans don't really matter much when it comes to that. The NFL has only punished Burfict for breaking the rules, seems kinda like it makes sense to me.
  20. He's played the 130th most LB snaps in the league and only 30 LBs have missed more tackles than him. He's pretty bad.
  21. I don't want this to devolve into another Andy thread, but when I see stuff like this is drives me crazy. There are so many legitimate things to bitch about with Andy yet people need to make shit up about the guy. Andy's contract averages less than every QB in the league off their rookie contract not named Tyrod Taylor, Mike Glennon, and Jay Cutler (being signed off his couch). Say whatever you will about Andy, but the dude has, easily, the BEST QB contract in the NFL right now of any guy that isn't on their rookie deal. The absolute last thing you can complain about with him is his team friendly contract. Averages per year rank (starters only) off their rookie contracts: Andy - 19th of 22 Burfict - 12th (ALL LBs, including big $$$ rushers) of 50+ Kirkpatrick - 11th of 50+ Pacman - 21st of 50+ AJ Green - 3rd of 50+ Relative to their position, Andy gets paid like one of the worst QBs in the league and regardless of your opinion of the guy, he's obviously not among the worst starters in the NFL. His contract isn't stopping us from building a team so just cut it out with the nonsense.
  22. Hopefully. He played a few good games last year and had an OK season overall so I had decent expectations for his contract year, but he's been awwwwwwwwwwfffffuullllllllllll this season. Like historically bad C play. Maybe it's because it's so fresh in my mind, but I don't recall ever being this baffled before when watching a center play football at the NFL level.
  23. The OL is obviously an issue but people are being crazy with this whole drafting offense almost every round stuff. I'm all aboard the "take a safety" train, but Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James are a LOT better than the next tier of safeties and I can't say the same for the OTs. I'd try to find a way to get Fitzpatrick & a guy like Martinas Rankin even if it means having to trade up a few spots. Too bad we didn't trade that Scooter kid, eh? If we don't use our top pick on one of the best 2 safeties then I'd say just don't take a safety at that point. You either take the game changer or you let Iloka and Williams play another year. I don't see any guys that would be available in 2-4 that I'd see starting over our guys, but I'll absolutely take Fitzpatrick with a top 5 pick and start him immediately. I feel the same with a DT. Either take Payne with your top pick or else forget about DT all together and let our guys continue to play and develop. OT/G/LB in round 2, lots of C/G/TE/LB picks to think about in 3-4, round out the draft trying to find more help at CB depth because Josh Shaw sucks and Pacman is almost AARP eligible, WR I guess, and whichever positions of need we didn't hit in the top 4 rounds. Cooter for HC, trade AJM. Target Ryan Jensen with everything possible in free agency and Josh Kline if the Titans don't bring him back for some reason. That would really open up the draft for us to not have to worry about the interior line whatsoever if we took care of C and RG both in free agency with Boling already on the roster.
  24. Current 2018 Draft Order

    Can't get higher than a 5th round comp for a 10+ year vet regardless of any other factors that typically determine the comp pick. Just the way it is. Another one of those random "cause we said so" type of rules.
  25. He is and he'll probably be super expensive due to being one of the only LTs worth much next year, but he's still light years ahead of Oogie. Ty Nsekhe? He's a RFA, I wouldn't mind going after a guy like that. Honestly at this point up until next off season I'm probably going to get excited about the idea of any tackle not named Ogbuehi, any center that isn't Bodine, and any RG period haha

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