Knucklehead Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Does anyone on the boards have helpful advice about owning a tree frog? Specifically I'm interested in the red-eyed tree frog (insert reefer joke here). I've read about the habitat, food, humidity, etc. I was looking for first hand advice from current or previous owners. Does anyone know of a good website or message board that has more info? [img]http://aura.zaadz.com/photos/2/17513/large/Red_eyed_Tree_Frog_3.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Get this [img]http://www.exploratorium.edu/frogs/mainstory/images/redeye_lrg.jpg[/img] This! [img]http://www.surfnetusa.com/terry/scrap/tfxmas6.jpg[/img] you'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 You'll definetely need an aquarium that's been converted to dual use for reptiles like frogs (dammit, they have a name.....vicquarium?), with plenty of living plants, wood, stones and running water into a small pond. My brother had several of those at one point and they were cool to watch when stoned. I can't imagine trying to care for a pet(s) like this in my current chasing children around environment, as they would likely die from my lack of initiative to clean their cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 After Stray's advice, I think I'll get a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Knucklehead' post='372856' date='Oct 26 2006, 09:40 PM']After Stray's advice, I think I'll get a book [/quote] ..I just showed my wife that little guy....now she wants one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Knucklehead' post='372856' date='Oct 26 2006, 07:40 PM']After Stray's advice, I think I'll get a book [/quote] Good choice. Pets can suck if you aren't committed to them (I hate my dog, that barking, pooping monster!). I have committments to human children that supercede any time or caring I can give our dog, especially given my 60 hour workweeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='372860' date='Oct 26 2006, 09:45 PM']Good choice. Pets can suck if you aren't committed to them (I hate my dog, that barking, pooping monster!). I have committments to human children that supercede any time or caring I can give our dog, especially given my 60 hour workweeks.[/quote] be nice I have 3 dogs myself. those are my kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='372860' date='Oct 26 2006, 09:45 PM']Good choice. Pets can suck if you aren't committed to them (I hate my dog, that barking, pooping monster!). I have committments to human children that supercede any time or caring I can give our dog, especially given my 60 hour workweeks.[/quote] Oh no, I'm still getting one. I just think it's wiser to invest the $5 in a book instead of taking advice from the likes of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Knucklehead' post='372867' date='Oct 26 2006, 09:51 PM']Oh no, I'm still getting one. I just think it's wiser to invest the $5 in a book instead of taking advice from the likes of you! [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A-Men-HouseofPain Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 my mom use to have one for her first grade class. They have to have a heated environment i believe. They were not that hard to take care of tho. She woudlnt have had one if it was tough because my sister was very young, i was in like 2nd and 3rd grade so i was young and my mom had to deal with 30 first graders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 step 1 - purchase most colorful frog availible step 2 - lick its back step 3 - post on go-bengals.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Knucklehead' post='372867' date='Oct 26 2006, 07:51 PM']Oh no, I'm still getting one. I just think it's wiser to invest the $5 in a book instead of taking advice from the likes of you! [/quote] I am simply stating facts. They need a viquarium with warmth. I don't hate on anyone that keeps pets, hell, I had tropical fish before I got married with kids..... And you're funny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='372884' date='Oct 26 2006, 08:21 PM']step 1 - purchase most colorful frog availible step 2 - lick its back step 3 - post on go-bengals.com[/quote] Actually, that hallucinogenic property belongs to a toad, not a frog, which easily explains the difference betwewen crocodiles and alligators............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalBacker Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='372860' date='Oct 26 2006, 09:45 PM']Good choice. Pets can suck if you aren't committed to them (I hate my dog, that barking, pooping monster!). I have committments to human children that supercede any time or caring I can give our dog, especially given my 60 hour workweeks.[/quote] Fuckin'...............boo god damn it! Take just a few minutes every day to scratch your dog's head and back. Tell him/her that he/she is a good boy/girl. Let him/her lick your hand. Play with him/her for 2 minutes. Man's best friend if you let 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I'm thinking about doing a real replicated environment with live plants. Having a frog would be cool, but I think building/recreating the environment would be great too. Too bad I hae no clue what I'm doing. When I figure it out I'll prove to the world that a Bengals fan can do something without complaining about their thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldschooler Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote][size=5][b]Red Eyed Tree Frog Care Sheet and Information[/b][/size] [b]Common Name:[/b] Red Eyed Tree Frog [b]Latin name:[/b] Agalychnis callidryas [b]Native to:[/b] Southern Mexico to Eastern Panama [b]Size: [/b] Male red eye tree frogs average about 2 to 2½ inches (51 - 64 mm) snout-vent length. Females average 2½ to 3 inches (64mm - 76 mm) snout-vent length. [b]General appearance:[/b] All red eye tree frogs have their signature red eyes with vertical pupils and a green back and a creamy white belly. Some red eye tree frogs have white spots on their back as well. The feet are yellow to orange in color. Color and size can vary depending on the geographic location the frog comes from. Red eye tree frogs from the northern part of the range tend to be slightly smaller with blue display flanks while specimens from the southern part of the range tend to be larger but have less colorful display flanks. [b]Housing requirements:[/b] [b]Enclosure:[/b] Generally speaking, enclosures should be at least 10-gallons in size for a pair of red eye tree frogs. A good rule is to allow 5 gallons per frog kept. Cage tops should be half glass and half screen to help keep humidity levels higher. If possible try to use enclosures that are taller to allow the red eye tree frogs places to climb and room for foliage. [b]Temperature:[/b] Red eye tree frogs do best at temperature ranges of 60° - 85° F (15° - 30° C), though long periods of time at their temperature extremes can be unhealthy for the animals. They do well with average daytime temperatures of about 75°- 80° F (24° - 27° C) and nighttime temperatures of 70°- 75° F (21° - 24° C). [b]Heat/Light: [/b] Usually red eye tree frogs do well at room temperature, but if needed, an under-tank heater, low wattage incandescent bulb, or ceramic emitters can be used to raise the temperature of the enclosure. In summer months steps need to be taken to keep the enclosure cool, such as to make sure the enclosure is not in direct sunlight and to circulate the air in the room with a fan or open window. UV light has not been proven to be helpful or harmful to these animals but if your enclosure contains live plants you should provide some light for the plants. A 12-hour photoperiod should be provided and can be achieved by using a timer. [b]Substrate:[/b] The substrate provided should be able to help hold higher humidity levels. A layer of 3 to 5 inches (76 - 127 mm) of substrate such as orchid bark or potting soil and sphagnum moss can be used. If desired aquarium gravel can be used on the bottom level for drainage. [b]Environment:[/b] Because red eye tree frogs come from a tropical rain forest, a higher humidity level of 60% to 70% is a must. Higher humidity levels can be maintained by regular mistings, appropriate substrate, and partially cover the cage top. If water droplets begin to form on the glass, the humidity is probably too high. Red eye tree frogs also love to climb on broad-leaf plants such as Philodendron, Anthurium, and Mongtera species. [b]Diet:[/b] Like may amphibians, red eye tree frogs are insectivorous. Insects such as crickets, flies, fruit flies, and just about anything smaller than their mouth. Crickets are usually the easiest and most readily available food supply. When feed crickets it is important to gut load the crickets with a good diet to provide the best nutrition for your frog. Fresh water should be provided in a dish for the frogs because they will rehydrate themselves by soaking in the disk. They will often drink from the water accumulated on the plants from misting as well. [b]Maintenance:[/b] It is important to mist red eye tree frogs on a regular basis. Depending on your local environment, cage setup, and substrate you may have to mist as often as daily to only two to tree times a week. Owners should also be wary of unfiltered tap water as it may contain substances harmful to your frogs. It is best to use filtered and dechlorinated water for misting and drinking. The enclosure should be spot cleaned as needed and should be thoroughly cleaned and disinfected regularly to prevent mold from growing in the substrate. A 5% bleach solution makes an excellent disinfectant. Be sure to rinse the enclosure thoroughly after disinfecting. As always, be sure to wash your hands thoroughly after handling your frogs or any cage accessories. Other references or recommended reading: de Vosjoli, Phillippe, Robert Mailloux, and Drew Ready. Care and Breeding of Popular Tree Frogs. Santee, CA: Advanced Vivarium Systems, 1996 "Red-Eyed Tree Frog." 1998 Czar Helix. Retrieved 6 September 2002. [url="http://www.helixpro.net/anuran/redeye.htm"]http://www.helixpro.net/anuran/redeye.htm[/url] "Red Eyed Tree Frogs." California Zoological Supply. Retrieved 6 September 2002. [url="http://www.calzoo.com/html/redeyedtreefrogs.html"]http://www.calzoo.com/html/redeyedtreefrogs.html[/url] "Red Eyed Tree Frogs." Retrieved 6 September 2002 [url="http://www.geocities.com/.../redeye.html"]http://www.geocities.com/.../redeye.html[/url] Remember that in many places it is illeagal to take wildlife out of the wild without the proper permits from local, state, or federal authorities. Please do not release any captive reptiles or amphibians into the wild as this will disrupt the natural order of our environment. See our amphibian and reptile adoptions page for more information on what to do with unwanted herps.[/quote] [url="http://www.wnyherp.org/care-sheets/amphibians/red-eye-tree-frog.php"]http://www.wnyherp.org/care-sheets/amphibi...e-tree-frog.php[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dan_Bengals_FL- Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Nice work Old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='BengalBacker' post='372957' date='Oct 27 2006, 03:42 AM']Fuckin'...............boo god damn it! Take just a few minutes every day to scratch your dog's head and back. Tell him/her that he/she is a good boy/girl. Let him/her lick your hand. Play with him/her for 2 minutes. Man's best friend if you let 'em.[/quote] Whoa, Backer! I do all those things, and I am the main feeder and letter outter (?). I don't hate the dog, I was kidding. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't have let my wife get one though (she's the one that wanted her) for the simple fact that we have an infant that is continually eating the dog's hair because he's crawling around on the floor and then putting his hands into his mouth, and no matter how much I vacuum the floors or brush the dog, it never goes away. Hell, I'm the one that has to pick up her poop from the yard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 [quote name='Dan_Bengals_NJ' post='373095' date='Oct 27 2006, 11:33 AM']Nice work Old.[/quote] And he works for free. I read most of the web articles like the one posted. I'm really looking for personal, real-life, advice from people I trust and respect. Well trust anyway. No scratch that too. From fellow Bengal fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldschooler Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Sorry Knucklehead. That`s the best I could do. The only pets I`ve ever had are dogs and fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LeakyBengal Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Aren't those deadly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 [quote name='LeakyBengal' post='373338' date='Oct 27 2006, 05:24 PM']Aren't those deadly?[/quote] Only if you choke on it. You're thinking of the dart frogs and they don't have/lose their toxin in captivity. The poison doesn't originate from the frog, but from it's diet in the wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead Posted October 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Well I did it. Cost about $400 to get everything together. I started from scratch. I got a cool 20gal terrarium from [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/glass_terrariums_i.html"]exo-terra[/url]. Then a got a light, [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/analog_thermometer_i.html"]thermometer[/url], [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/hygrometer_i.html"]hygrometer[/url], substrate (wood chips), moss, logs, [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/water_falls_i.html"]water fall[/url], live plants, and the frog. Oh I had to get some crickets and cricket food too. It may seem like a lot, but it's not bad. It's my new hobby. I'll probably get a couple more to make it really cool. I haven't decided whether to get more RE's or something different. His name is Squishy. I'll post pics later for those who give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A-Men-HouseofPain Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 [quote name='Knucklehead' post='373819' date='Oct 28 2006, 08:49 PM']Well I did it. Cost about $400 to get everything together. I started from scratch. I got a cool 20gal terrarium from [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/glass_terrariums_i.html"]exo-terra[/url]. Then a got a light, [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/analog_thermometer_i.html"]thermometer[/url], [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/hygrometer_i.html"]hygrometer[/url], substrate (wood chips), moss, logs, [url="http://www.exo-terra.com/EN/products/water_falls_i.html"]water fall[/url], live plants, and the frog. Oh I had to get some crickets and cricket food too. It may seem like a lot, but it's not bad. It's my new hobby. I'll probably get a couple more to make it really cool. I haven't decided whether to get more RE's or something different. [b] His name is Squishy. I'll post pics later for those who give a shit.[/b][/quote] i do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalBacker Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I never expected to see a thread titled, "I'm buying a Tree Frog, need advice". Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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