Ben Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [url="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html[/url] [quote]WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Video showing a plane crashing into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, will be released publicly for the first time on Tuesday, a judicial watchdog said. The Department of Defense will hand over tapes showing American Airlines Flight 77 striking its headquarters outside Washington to Judicial Watch, a public interest group that requested the video, the group said. The video will be available on the group's Web site after it receives the tape at 1 p.m., according to a news release from Judicial Watch. Still photographs of the aftermath of the attack showed the Pentagon on fire but no images of the Boeing 757 striking the building have ever been made public. (Watch fireballs engulf ruined parts of the Pentagon -- 0:55) "We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77. As always, our prayers remain with all those who suffered as a result of those murderous attacks." The Pentagon attack killed 184 people: Fifty-three passengers and six crew members on board American Airlines Flight 77, and 125 military and civilian personnel inside the building. Some conspiracy theorists have maintained the aircraft was shot down in flight, and that the Pentagon was struck by a missile. Judicial Watch filed a Freedom of Information Act request, but the government had refused to release the video until after the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the convicted al Qaeda conspirator who was sentenced earlier this month to life in prison. Judicial Watch is "a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law," according to its Web site. The group filed a lawsuit this year, arguing that there was "no legal basis" for the Pentagon's refusal to release the tape. The video requested by Judicial Watch was taken from security cameras at the Pentagon, the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, and Virginia Department of Transportation traffic cameras. Jill Farrell, Judicial Watch's director of media affairs, told CNN she would not know which video will be released "until we see it."[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 While this is awsome news, and hopefully should clear it up. I have a feeling those who want to believe what they want to believe will just say its doctored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [b]so instead of releasing the videos to the public record as they should be .... the govt hands them over to a conservative watch group to put on their own website .... aren't these videos important enough to release to the public at large ? [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='268856' date='May 16 2006, 01:24 PM']While this is awsome news, and hopefully should clear it up. I have a feeling those who want to believe what they want to believe will just say its doctored.[/quote] If you ever read the PNAC site(which the bulk of the current admin belong too), i can see where you would get extremeeely suspicious. They basically want to take over the world and have the us in control, ala Rome. They talk about needed an attack on U.S. Soil to to facilitate a campaign in the middle east. Some scary shit. But I still have trouble believing the conspiracies. Though the one flight being shot down in P.A....maybe. It was probably just a bunch of steeler fans w/ shotguns though. The recordings seem to discount that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='268862' date='May 16 2006, 01:30 PM'][b]so instead of releasing the videos to the public record as they should be .... the govt hands them over to a conservative watch group to put on their own website .... aren't these videos important enough to release to the public at large ? [/b][/quote] What does it matter, so long as they are relased and can be verified (hopefully by a non-bias authority) that they are indeed what the pentagon says they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Ben' post='268864' date='May 16 2006, 01:32 PM']If you ever read the PNAC site(which the bulk of the current admin belong too), i can see where you would get extremeeely suspicious. They basically want to take over the world and have the us in control, ala Rome. They talk about needed an attack on U.S. Soil to to facilitate a campaign in the middle east. Some scary shit. But I still have trouble believing the conspiracies. Though the one flight being shot down in P.A....maybe. It was probably just a bunch of steeler fans w/ shotguns though. The recordings seem to discount that though.[/quote] Fuck PNAC. I just want it verified that it was a 757, that's all I've ever argued. But I tend to be sceptical of conspiracies as well. Although I do wonder if the PA plane was shot down by the same guy that shot that bengals helmet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 The damn site is farked. Hopefully it will get posted to youtube or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 the general public didnt apply for the tapes to be released as that is pretty much impossible, they were released to the group that applied for the video. the same ones who are currently sharing it with us... is their site down for anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='268871' date='May 16 2006, 01:36 PM']the general public didnt apply for the tapes to be released as that is pretty much impossible, they were released to the group that applied for the video. the same ones who are currently sharing it with us... is their site down for [s]anyone[/s] EVERYONE else?[/quote] yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 The site is probably experiencing bandwith overload, it may be a little while before we get to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='268875' date='May 16 2006, 01:39 PM']The site is probably experiencing bandwith overload, it may be a little while before we get to see it.[/quote] i have no clue why they are having bandwidth problems... btw, about every 20 seconds i refresh the page, so i'll be the first one in once they get these "mysterious" bandwidth problems fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Jamie_B' post='268875' date='May 16 2006, 01:39 PM']The site is probably experiencing bandwith overload, it may be a little while before we get to see it.[/quote] fuckers...why couldnt they share it w/ cnn/foxnews/etc... that are used to this kind of bandwith hits. ///i bet its all part of the conspiracy...the video will end up being "corrupted" w/ no backup copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='bengalrick' post='268876' date='May 16 2006, 01:41 PM']i have no clue why they are having bandwidth problems... btw, about every 20 seconds i refresh the page, so i'll be the first one in once they get these "mysterious" bandwidth problems fixed [/quote] You are the bandwith problem then. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Ben' post='268877' date='May 16 2006, 01:42 PM']fuckers...why couldnt they share it w/ cnn/foxnews/etc... that are used to this kind of bandwith hits. ///i bet its all part of the conspiracy...the video will end up being "corrupted" w/ no backup copies [/quote] Im sure this will be the big story on all the channels and probabally will be on the various newscasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I like what someone on fark said, "now we know how long it takes them to fake a video" [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Ben' post='268886' date='May 16 2006, 01:47 PM']I like what someone on fark said, "now we know how long it takes them to fake a video" [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img][/quote] Like I said.... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 well ive got some good news and some bad news... it turns out that judicial watch .com sells some pretty dandy watches... the bad news is theyre like $6000 a pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='268888' date='May 16 2006, 01:49 PM']well ive got some good news and some bad news... it turns out that judicial watch .com sells some pretty dandy watches... the bad news is theyre like $6000 a pop[/quote] www.judicialwatch.org [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//3.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 IT WAS A PLANE!!! I reported to the Pentagon Aril 1, 2002 ( 6 months later). People were there when the plane hit. I heard countless scenario's describing the scene. I have been told the names of people seeing the plane come down. One of the girls I work with now, knows the Air Force Tech Sergeant assigned to document the crash. Once and for all, it was a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Lawman' post='268902' date='May 16 2006, 02:19 PM'] IT WAS A PLANE!!! I reported to the Pentagon Aril 1, 2002 ( 6 months later). People were there when the plane hit. I heard countless scenario's describing the scene. I have been told the names of people seeing the plane come down. One of the girls I work with now, knows the Air Force Tech Sergeant assigned to document the crash. Once and for all, it was a plane. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Ben' post='268886' date='May 16 2006, 01:47 PM']I like what someone on fark said, "now we know how long it takes them to fake a video" [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img][/quote] [b]can we all at least agree that "if" jar jar binks accidentally shows up in the backround footage .... that maybe the tape was edited ..... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='BlackJesus' post='268917' date='May 16 2006, 02:48 PM'][b]can we all at least agree that "if" jar jar binks accidentally shows up in the backround footage .... that maybe the tape was edited ..... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/b][/quote] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/24.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Lawman' post='268902' date='May 16 2006, 02:19 PM'] IT WAS A PLANE!!! I reported to the Pentagon Aril 1, 2002 [u](6 months later). [/u][/quote] [b]well shit on that note .... case closed but Lawman I hope that you are also honest enough to research and look at the numerous accounts of people who were eyewitnesses and believe they saw something other than a plane ...... in any dramatic situation like that .... there will always be differences in memory .... [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 i can't get video in media player at work, but someone tell me if [url="http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/05/16/breaking-video-of-plane-hitting-pentagon-on-911-to-be-released-at-1-pm/"]this is it[/url], or if this is the old tape that doesn't show a plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselman44 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='bengalrick' post='268940' date='May 16 2006, 03:17 PM']i can't get video in media player at work, but someone tell me if [url="http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/05/16/breaking-video-of-plane-hitting-pentagon-on-911-to-be-released-at-1-pm/"]this is it[/url], or if this is the old tape that doesn't show a plane?[/quote] I watched in Bengalrick and it showed what appeared to be the nose of a plane but not the an entire plane. Just a bunch of explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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