Jamie_B

Ohio this week will hit the peak without overwhelming hospitals https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2020/04/university-of-washington-latest-projection-says-ohio-will-reach-coronavirus-peak-this-week-without-overwhelming-hospitals.html?utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2DaQEYU17iCnkAdQWFpUw0vkDqmmSqGusJuHNdgq4PHxJnc1D-Fi_NF0U I'm not a Republican, but the governor there handled this better than most states. I'm also not a Democrat, though I lean on the Bernie Sanders spectrum, but my Governor in VA is a moron and has handled this badly. Though not as bad as some of these Southern Governers.

Joe Burrow will be a Cincinnati Bengal. Bet on it.

Ignore the title, pay attention to the content of the video.

Completely agree on all accounts.

I don't disagree. That's the point of having the temporary safety net so that we can keep people home but at least temporarily financially secure until this is over.

I dont think any one wants their individual liberties taken away permanently, but in the short term we need to be thinking about the good of the collective.

1. No and you can do it without giving them that right. 2. Hard question to answer in the midst of the crisis, I'm sure that data will come out afterwards. But doesn't really cover what I am talking about with regard to tying healthcare to employment especially as so many are about to lose their jobs.

Thing is much like gun control we should not be talking about these things after a crisis, but beforehand so that were not in the situation we are in. I know this is a "black swan" but I really do believe that if we had a better government we might not have lost 3.2 million jobs (numbers still coming in as I know 2 people in the Cincy area that were layed off) St Louis Fed today said that 66 million are in "high risk" for job loss with this thing. This Politico article talks about the neglect we had at the state level for not getting funds for unemployment insurance. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/unemployed-workers-benefits-coronavirus-159192 We've had decades of "government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem" propaganda that now we are in the middle of a crisis and government is ill funded and ill prepared to fully handle it. Speaking to my teacher friends, I think the solution of letting the private ISPs implement it while getting supplements from the government to pay back the costs for said services, and we still need to reclassify these ISPs as utilities imho. As to the medicare for all question, it really just boils down to this for me. We are about to have massive unemployment, potentially the levels of the Great Depression. Now I hope this doesn't last long, but in a Pandemic we can't know that. As such tying healthcare to employment in a situation where unemployed people who cant be tested due to lack of insurance can just as easily pass this on to employed people, is insanity to me. We need to be covering everyone, and I think you have to untie it from employment.

I mentioned this in a separate thread but I'll repost and add to my thoughts here.... A few things we can and should do. Put a moratorium on all rent and utilities being collected until June 1, for those that got laid off. Get cash in people's hands right now., which means everyone, Dont means test it you put up red tape that keeps people from getting it who need it. You can tax the richer people to get it back later. Some things to consider for the future - 3.2 million people out of work now without health insurance, this adds to the problem because people cant be tested or will avoid it, this effects everyone not just these people. We need a healthcare system that covers everyone regardless of ability to pay that isn't tied to employment. We need Medicare for all. - We dont know how long this is going to last with any certainty, China's curve if they are reporting honestly which I doubt, has flattened but they are also starting to see some people who passed the test who are now getting it. That kind of bounce needs to be considered. What this means is it could effect voting, which is why we need same day registration. - Long term we are too reliant on the airlines and trucking for delivery with regard to our infrastructure, we need high speed rail - Because we are forcing the kids to do distance learning, we need to have basic internet for them. I spoke to a few teacher friends of mine and it sounds like Comcast has gone the route of providing it to the kids that have free or reduced lunch costs (and good on the schools for doing lunch pickups) but that means they dont have it right now because their installers arent going around installing it right now. So many of the kids are getting printed out packets. Once this is over they need to install the internet for those kids because there is still the possibility that we face this again in he winter. Also go back to reclassifying the ISPs as a utility.

Warrick didnt live up to his draft spot but once Chad came onto the scene I thought Peter played a pretty good #2 slot WR. And for ending his career early by playing hurt when he should not have so that the Bengals could make the playoffs (sad they missed them for him) in his final year, I will always be a fan.

All of this. Tibor's complaint that not every guy on that list was an all pro is silly the 3 guys you highlighted may not have been all pros but they all were very solid and played worthy of the spot they were drafted. In fact Jerome Bettis said that Teko Spikes was at the time he was playing the best linebacker he had faced.

Open to all of them.

Freeing up 8 million makes me wonder if they are about to sign someone?

Thought it deserved its own thread. 3rd and Dre is gone.

I suppose I could be on board with paying rent for people who are working (I am telecommuting, and thank God my company has unclassified work for me right now) so for those people life has not changed all that much, what would be your solution for people like my cousin who was just laid off? 100% agree with a WPA program right now and for the foreseeable short term to mid term future, that said those jobs need some spin up time too I would think?

I've not seen anything suggesting that we now have 0% payroll tax. As to this post putting people back to work before the curve has flattened puts the public at large at greater risk. We can't assume this is only related to older and sicker people, there have been young and healthy people dying. A few things we can and should do. Put a moratorium on all rent and utilities being collected until June 1. Get cash in people's hands right now., which means everyone, Dont means test it you put up red tape that keeps people from getting it who need it. You can tax the richer people to get it back later. Some things to consider for the future - 3.2 million people out of work now without health insurance, this adds to the problem because people cant be tested or will avoid it, this effects everyone not just these people. We need a healthcare system that covers everyone regardless of ability to pay that isn't tied to employment. We need Medicare for all. - We dont know how long this is going to last with any certainty, China's curve if they are reporting honestly which I doubt, has flattened but they are also starting to see some people who passed the test who are now getting it. That kind of bounce needs to be considered. What this means is it could effect voting, which is why we need same day registration. - Long term we are too reliant on the airlines and trucking for delivery with regard to our infrastructure, we need high speed rail

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Yeah one of my friends who is a flight attendant with Delta got sent home with it. Shes waiting on her test to be sure but her Dr. told her he didnt have to have a test to know she has it since she has all the symptoms.

where do you see this?

I guess it would depend on the Oline play, if they are getting Dalton killed I dont want Burrow starting as that would hurt his progress imo if he is getting killed too.

Panthers just released Newton. I'd bet against Andy being traded now. He's either going to be staring while Burrow learns like we did with Kitna and Palmer or he's going to be released.

I am working from home on a company specific project and no longer for the government for the next two weeks. Staying at home except to grocery shop, doing crossfit workouts in my driveway, and my masters classes have been moved all online now.