KRUMRIE DRILL CALLED “USELESS”

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[quote][b]KRUMRIE DRILL CALLED “USELESS”[/b]
Posted by Mike Florio on April 5, 2008, 4:18 p.m.

The recent post from our own MDS regarding the complaints of USC coach Pete Carroll as to the hand-to-hand combat drill for which Chiefs assistant coach Tim Krumrie has become famous/notorious has prompted a couple of league insiders and media types to chime in regarding the exercise.

One league insider, a long-time scout, called the drill “useless.”

”It has nothing to do with football,” the source said. “Scouts and G.M.’s for years have looked at it and laughed. The only person who gets anything out of it is Krumrie. . . . I am surprised that a player hasn’t decked him. If I was a young defensive lineman I would beat the hell out of him. The league should outlaw the drill or better yet tell Krumrie that he can’t go to workouts.”

A media insider takes the opposite view: “Carroll complaining about that drill is stupid. It’s basically a wrestling drill to test hand speed and endurance. Kids don’t get ‘roughed up,’ they just get tired. I’m seem him do it like six times, no kid has ever some close to getting hurt because there’s no punching or hitting involved. It’s just about hand placement and how good a defensive linemen is at getting an offensive lineman’s hands off of him and for how long he can do it.”

Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com provided us with some more details about what went down at the USC pro day:

“The drill in question involved Krumrie heavily laying his hands on the shoulders of the defensive linemen. They are to slap his hands off. It went on for several minutes for each of the players. [Sedrick] Ellis went first, then [Lawrence] Jackson, then [Alex] Morrow. Ellis was the toughest of the bunch, with Jackson ultimately wearing down and lying exhausted on the ground. It was then that Carroll began fuming. He said something to Krumrie a moment after he worked out Morrow and then Carroll went on to speak to several other NFL personnel about the workout. He was pissed, but the comments were inaudible.”

We figure we’ll hear more about this. When we do, we’ll post it.[/quote]

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[quote][b]KRUMRIE DRILL GOT CARROLL MAD[/b]
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 5, 2008, 1:29 p.m.

With the help of some readers, we’ve filled in some of the gaps from yesterday’s report via the Los Angeles Times that USC head coach Pete Carroll was angry with a drill that an NFL coach conducted at the school’s pro day workouts this week.

The Times reported that Carroll watched some of his former players engage in “a hand-to-hand combat drill,” and that Carroll didn’t like the contact and vowed, “That won’t happen again here.”

We’ve since learned that the coach in question was Kansas City Chiefs defensive line coach Tim Krumrie, and we’ve been reminded of a PFT report from last year about Michigan’s pro day, when a source said Krumrie roughed up defensive tackle Alan Branch.

According to Scott Wolf of the San Bernardino Sun, Carroll got angry when USC draft prospects Sedrick Ellis, Lawrence Jackson and Alex Morrow were put through a drill in which they had to knock away Krumrie’s arms “until they almost fell from exhaustion.”

Krumrie was a two-time Pro Bowl defensive lineman who played for the Bengals for 12 years and is best remembered for a Theismannesque injury in Super Bowl XXIII. Apparently he misses the contact of his playing days and likes to test himself against the young bucks, and apparently Carroll is among those who thinks he goes too far.

We’re of two minds on this one. On the one hand, it’s understandable that Carroll wouldn’t want to see these players get roughed up in a drill when they’re not wearing pads. On the other hand, these guys aren’t Carroll’s players anymore, and if the NFL coaches at the pro day think the drill can help them evaluate the players, well, that’s what pro days are for.

Maybe the best way to handle it would be for one of these 22-year-old players in the drill with the 47-year-old Krumrie to knock his hands away hard enough that Krumrie decides he doesn’t want to run the drill anymore.[/quote]

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thats odd..



seriously? pete... seriously?

[joshua]

Sounds to me like he's more pissed about his players looking bad.