Jason Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Link: [url="http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0039626.cfm"]http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0039626.cfm[/url] South Dakota Abortion Ban by Steve Jordahl The South Dakota Senate has voted 23-12 to pass a total ban on abortion except in the rare case when the life of the mother is in danger. It is one of the most sweeping abortion bans since the Roe v Wade decision. Sponsor Roger Hunt says it was drafted keeping in mind the legal challenges that will follow in mind. “It probably will be litigated and probably will find its way through the federal system, likely to the United States Supreme Court.†The goal is to overturn Roe v Wade. Hunt says the state will defend the bill on two fronts – that technology has advanced so much since abortion was legalized it is no longer assumed that the pre-born baby is not a life, and that the decision doesn’t belong to the federal government in the first place. “There’s nothing in our United States Constitution that talks about abortion issues which means that that’s a power that’s delegated to the people of South Dakota.†Kelly Shackelford of the Liberty Legal Institute says among legal scholars, Roe has been on a shaky footing for a while. “The so called ‘law’ of Roe v Wade is a joke, and anybody that’s honest – legally – understands it is. It’s not in the Constitution, it’s created out of thin air.†If Roe were to be overturned by this or another lawsuit, states would be left to decide their own abortion laws. “All it does is it leaves the issue in the hands of the people, and that means that we’re going to have to win the debate.†In that case, South Dakota has provided a pretty good example. Shackelford agrees that technology puts us in a much better position to argue for protecting life, because the confusion and lies that were foisted on the public in the past can now be exposed. Hunt says several states, including Ohio, Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky are considering abortion bans similar to South Dakota’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 On a related note, Holland is proposing [b]MANDATORY[/b] abortions: Link: [url="http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48930"]http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48930[/url] Mandatory abortion proposed in Holland Official calls for debate to deal with issue of unwanted children Posted: February 21, 2006 11:44 a.m. Eastern A health official in the Netherlands has called for a debate on the idea of forced abortion and contraception to deal with what she sees as a crisis of unwanted children. Alderman Marianne van den Anker of the Leefbaar Rotterdam Party wants specifically to target communities of Antilleans and Arubans where she sees the biggest problems of unwanted children. Her comments have stirred protest by a health foundation working with those communities in Rotterdam. The group, which called the comments degrading, is asking Mayor Ivo Opstelten and other politicians to distance themselves from Van den Anker's views. Van den Anker is a mother of two children and the official in charge of Rotterdam's health and security portfolios. In an interview in a newspaper Saturday, she said she had tried everything to prevent child abuse. "I fail, I fail," she told the interviewer as she outlined her controversial idea for a debate on compulsory abortion and contraception. The target groups for her program are Antillean teenage mothers; drug addicts and people with mental handicaps, she said, according to a report in Expatica. According to the report, Van den Anker said children from these groups run an "unacceptable risk" of growing up without love and with "violence, neglect, mistreatment and sexual abuse." "The exceptions," she said, "and there are some, can be counted on a pair of hands." Van den Anker pointed to the growing number of Antillean youth gangs in Rotterdam whose members come from loveless homes. BTW, the primary racial makeup for the targeted population is black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 The South Dakota House passed the bill today, the Senate passed it yesterday, and the Governor says he will likely sign it if there are no technical complications in the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 the first step to the eroding of roe v. wade... it will finally be a real choice (by individual states)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 How long before the population of South Dakota passes that of the Netherlands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Just what Society and especially South Dakota needs...more unwanted children who are either neglected or put up for adoption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 [quote]Holland is proposing MANDATORY abortions: BTW, the primary racial makeup for the targeted population is black.[/quote] [center][color="#3333FF"][b]Maybe the Netherlands is taking a page out of right winger Bill Bennetts book .... [/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/color] [img]http://www.blackpresence.co.uk/images/bennett.jpg[/img] [size=3][i]"If you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country and your crime rate would go down."[/i][/size] [b]--- William Bennett, former Reagen education secretary [/b] [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 [quote name='The Scales' post='222874' date='Feb 25 2006, 04:23 PM']Just what Society Needs... unwanted children who are neglected or put up for adoption.[/quote] Might as well go on with a clean sweep and kill all unnecessary people then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 [quote]Might as well go on with a clean sweep and kill all unnecessary people then.[/quote] [size=4] Fuck yeah ..... I know just the family to start off with too ...... [img]http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7980/bushf30fy.jpg[/img][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 [quote name='The Scales' post='222874' date='Feb 25 2006, 04:23 PM']Just what Society Needs... unwanted children who are neglected or put up for adoption.[/quote] What's wrong with adoption???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 [quote name='Jason' post='223024' date='Feb 26 2006, 12:10 AM'][quote name='The Scales' post='222874' date='Feb 25 2006, 04:23 PM'] Just what Society Needs... unwanted children who are neglected or put up for adoption.[/quote] What's wrong with adoption???? [/quote] now not in all cases , but off the top of my head all those who don't get adopted...shit even some that do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 [quote name='The Scales' post='223072' date='Feb 26 2006, 01:50 AM'][quote name='Jason' post='223024' date='Feb 26 2006, 12:10 AM'] [quote name='The Scales' post='222874' date='Feb 25 2006, 04:23 PM'] Just what Society Needs... unwanted children who are neglected or put up for adoption.[/quote] What's wrong with adoption???? [/quote] now not in all cases , but off the top of my head all those who don't get adopted...shit even some that do... [/quote] All infants get adopted. It's the older kids that don't. Even some that do... what? You didn't finish the statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 [center][img]http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/060227/bagley.gif[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 [url="http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/13984932.htm"]the saga grows[/url] [i][b][size=3]Barbour says he'd likely sign bill to ban most abortions in Miss.[/size][/b] EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS Associated Press JACKSON, Miss. - Republican Gov. Haley Barbour said Wednesday that he likely would sign a bill to ban most abortions in Mississippi if it's approved by lawmakers. The state already has some of the strictest abortion laws in the nation. The bill that passed the House Public Health Committee on Tuesday would allow abortion only to save the pregnant woman's life. It would make no exception in cases of rape or incest. South Dakota lawmakers passed a similar bill last week that was intended to provoke a court showdown over the legality of abortion. Responding to questions about whether he'd sign a bill with no exceptions for rape or incest, Barbour said: "It hasn't gotten to my desk yet. When one gets there, we'll find out, and I suspect I'll sign it. But I would certainly rather it come to my desk with an exception for rape and incest. I think that's consistent with the opinion of the vast majority of Mississippians and Americans." The bill goes to the full House, which could vote next week. Speaker Billy McCoy, D-Rienzi, said he believes it will pass the House and move to the Senate. McCoy told The Associated Press that although he opposes abortion, he always has been willing to make an exception for pregnancies caused by rape or incest. "As I live longer and longer, the harder and harder it has become for me to accept abortion, period," McCoy said. He said he'll listen to arguments on both sides of the issue. He said not allowing exceptions for rape or incest would be "pretty tough." "It's also for those of us who don't believe in abortion to think about the taking of a human life, regardless of how it got started to be on this earth," McCoy said. Lt. Gov. Amy Tuck, a Republican, said she hasn't had a chance to read the House proposal. "I think this body will look very strongly on pro-life issues," said Tuck, who presides over the Senate. The lawmaker who introduced the near-ban, House Public Health Committee Chairman Steve Holland said he acted because he was tired of piecemeal attempts to add new abortion restrictions each year. Holland, D-Plantersville, said he has voted for some abortion restrictions and against others in the past. Mississippi already requires a 24-hour waiting period and counseling for all abortions, plus the consent of both parents for minors who seek the procedure. The state has one abortion clinic, in Jackson, and its leaders plan to fight if more restrictions are imposed. Also, Nsombi Lambright, executive director of the American Civil Liberties in Mississippi, said her office had been contacted Wednesday by other abortion-rights groups that might sue Mississippi if the new restrictions become law. "That's more of the state's legal resources going to something that didn't' have to happen," Lambright said. Terri Herring, president of Pro-Life Mississippi, said she hopes the state will outlaw abortion, but she's not certain whether there's a majority on the U.S. Supreme Court willing to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court ruling establishing the right to an abortion. "We feel like we are still one justice short of being able to overturn Roe," Herring said. The South Dakota legislation went to Republican Gov. Mike Rounds on Tuesday, and he has 15 days to act. Rounds has said he's inclined to sign the bill into law. ---_ The bill is Senate Bill 2922.[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 [b]Sometimes I wish that the GOP would just overturn the shit already .... so that the Democrats would never lose another National election again .... not only will the increase # of minorities benefit Democrats .... but also the Righties will lose this issue for fundraising .... In addition the wrath of women in the "Thinking states" (ie. - the ones on the coasts, or around the great lakes) would be royally pissed [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] .... and basically the GOP would be solidifying the Bible belt which they arelady had .... at the expense of most states where the avg IQ is above 80 ..... [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [center][img]http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/8/Q/bush_probomb.jpg[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 One thing I do believe contrary to some here might think is abortion should be a choice of the idividual. It shouldn't be someone elses decision on what me my wife want to do. My 2 cents [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/32.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 now let me just go ahead and make this statement right quick... many people who possess this mysteriously diminishing quality of common sense would lead you to believe that abortion is a non-issue... hell, perhaps when comparing all of the problems that we face as a nation, at home and abroad, this particular issue ranks at the bottom... but not me buddy, nosiree... abortion is my number one concern... right after gay marriage, brokeback mountain, and the farcical belief in diminishing family values... fuck all of the other real concerns that our nation faces each and every day... i say abortion is the tops! fuck yea! [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='225895' date='Mar 3 2006, 10:48 PM']now let me just go ahead and make this statement right quick... many people who possess this mysteriously diminishing quality of common sense would lead you to believe that abortion is a non-issue... hell, perhaps when comparing all of the problems that we face as a nation, at home and abroad, this particular issue ranks at the bottom... but not me buddy, nosiree... abortion is my number one concern... right after gay marriage, brokeback mountain, and the farcical belief in diminishing family values... fuck all of the other real concerns that our nation faces each and every day... i say abortion is the tops! fuck yea! [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img] [/quote] so you for it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='STRAYCAT' post='225898' date='Mar 3 2006, 10:52 PM'][quote name='Nati Ice' post='225895' date='Mar 3 2006, 10:48 PM'] now let me just go ahead and make this statement right quick... many people who possess this mysteriously diminishing quality of common sense would lead you to believe that abortion is a non-issue... hell, perhaps when comparing all of the problems that we face as a nation, at home and abroad, this particular issue ranks at the bottom... but not me buddy, nosiree... abortion is my number one concern... right after gay marriage, brokeback mountain, and the farcical belief in diminishing family values... fuck all of the other real concerns that our nation faces each and every day... i say abortion is the tops! fuck yea! [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//23.gif[/img] [/quote] so you for it or not [/quote]well im obviously against it... i mean as a relatively young straight middle-class white male, what issue affects me more... the state of our economy, the lack of funding to the public sector, the unnecessary rise in student loan costs, or the legality of abortion... and by god, if you guessed abortion... you would be right!! if you want to kill a baby im all for that, hell... i may even donate a bat as long as i get to take a whack... but if a poor young lower-class (most likely minority) female wants to abort her baby while its still a part of her own body... i say send her ass to jail, we cant be havin that shit 'round these parts... how dare she have the chance or right to lookout for the well-being of herself and the baby... fuck that shit... shes going to have that little future criminal and she should have thought about the consequences of her actions... how dare she not realize the repercussions... that little fucker is going to be raised on section 8, food stamps, and handouts alone... but shes not going to be allowed to kill it before it exists physically, we, as a nation, are going to kill it in every other aspect... we will give it the worst education possible, throw it in a "ghetto," throw in some health problems from an underweight and premature birth, and season it with the lack of opportunity in the surly reality that it will most likely face... mmmmmmm delicious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRAYCAT Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 What I am saying is say you and you girl have sex and guess what she is pregnant and you 2 decide you are not ready for that..should someone else decide for you? I say no. That is my liberal side of me. you should have the right to say I wish to abort this and will have a child when we are ready both mentally and financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='STRAYCAT' post='225914' date='Mar 3 2006, 11:25 PM']What I am saying is say you and you girl have sex and guess what she is pregnant and you 2 decide you are not ready for that..should someone else decide for you? I say no. That is my liberal side of me. you should have the right to say I wish to abort this and will have a child when we are ready both mentally and financially. [/quote] EXACTLY!!!!!!! you crazy pinko commie liberal... now most surely this means you support al qeada and socialism... correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='Jason' post='223103' date='Feb 26 2006, 09:44 AM'][quote name='The Scales' post='223072' date='Feb 26 2006, 01:50 AM'] [quote name='Jason' post='223024' date='Feb 26 2006, 12:10 AM'] [quote name='The Scales' post='222874' date='Feb 25 2006, 04:23 PM'] Just what Society Needs... unwanted children who are neglected or put up for adoption.[/quote] What's wrong with adoption???? [/quote] now not in all cases , but off the top of my head all those who don't get adopted...shit even some that do... [/quote] [b]All infants get adopted. It's the older kids that don't.[/b] Even some that do... what? You didn't finish the statement. [/quote] Wow! Is that what you believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest steggyD Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='STRAYCAT' post='225914' date='Mar 3 2006, 11:25 PM']What I am saying is say you and you girl have sex and guess what she is pregnant and you 2 decide you are not ready for that..should someone else decide for you? I say no. That is my liberal side of me. you should have the right to say I wish to abort this and will have a child when we are ready both mentally and financially. [/quote] It's called birth control. Try it instead of murder. I'd like to shoot anyone upside the head, when they figure out afterwards, "oh yeah, I'm not ready." No shit, dumbass, use a condom, have sex outside the fertile timeframe. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 steggy, just out of curiosity.... whats your view on abortion when there is rape, incest, or if a minor becomes pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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