No wonder the American public still thinks Iraq attacked us on 9/11

[Ben]

[quote name='bengalrick' post='429218' date='Jan 18 2007, 04:57 PM']i think there is a pretty long list of things that 90% of people could agree on... things like not having children until your married, divorse is taboo, work hard for what you get, be independant, etc...[/quote]

So you want the entire nation to become catholics?

Do we do forced sterlizations and children are only concieved in labs once gov't approval is granted?

Also..... how do you legislate "working hard" and i'm not sure what you mean by "be independent"? Are you referring to gov't handout type programs?

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='Ben' post='429228' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:11 PM']So you want the entire nation to become catholics?

Do we do forced sterlizations and children are only concieved in labs once gov't approval is granted?

Also..... how do you legislate "working hard" and i'm not sure what you mean by "be independent"? Are you referring to gov't handout type programs?[/quote]

i didn't know that these were catholic values... they should be common sense problems that we need to fix... as a matter of fact, "forced sterilizations" would spit in catholics face b/c that is a big no-no to them....

do i really need to define independance for you ben? yes, don't be too dependant on things like the gov't...

[Ben]

[quote name='bengalrick' post='429231' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:18 PM']i didn't know that these were catholic values... they should be common sense problems that we need to fix... as a matter of fact, "forced sterilizations" would spit in catholics face b/c that is a big no-no to them....

do i really need to define independance for you ben? yes, don't be too dependant on things like the gov't...[/quote]

I meant the kids/divorce thing for catholics. I just dont know how you could legislate anything you listed. And if we ever try america will be a scary place.

i dont want to use a BJ'ism...but will we start black bagging the undesirables and throwing them into "education centers".

Do we really want to become the christian version of afghanistan?

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Ben' post='429237' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:24 PM']I meant the kids/divorce thing for catholics. I just dont know how you could legislate anything you listed. And if we ever try america will be a scary place.

i dont want to use a BJ'ism...but will we start black bagging the undesirables and throwing them into "education centers".

Do we really want to become the christian version of afghanistan?[/quote]


Who said anything about christian values, people are speaking values period.

[Guest bengalrick]

[quote name='Ben' post='429237' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:24 PM']I meant the kids/divorce thing for catholics. I just dont know how you could legislate anything you listed. And if we ever try america will be a scary place.

i dont want to use a BJ'ism...but will we start black bagging the undesirables and throwing them into "education centers".

Do we really want to become the christian version of afghanistan?[/quote]

values are taught, not forced... except by the parents that are doing the teaching... yeah, i would have a big problem if we said "no one is allowed to have a kid before their 18" b/c i know exactly how we would have to enforce that, and none of the possiblities are morally good imo... but i donj't see anything wrong w/ us as a society thinks that that is taboo, or getting a divorce is taboo b/c that would cut down on alot of problems imo...

[rudi32]

sneaky

you are a great thinker and I agree with you. You seem like a deep man with good values.

Jamie, as I have said before I like your opinions as well as bengal rick


but ben, the word catholic values never came out of my mouth. values did. the fact is, if everyone tried to be the best catholic, muslem, jew etc they could be then society would be better as a whole.

all the major religions have about 95% of the same core values.

family, working hard, no kids till marriage, commitment to helping society and your fellow man.

live by these rules and it would help

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429264' date='Jan 18 2007, 05:57 PM']Onyx

you are a great thinker and I agree with you. You seem like a deep man with good values.

Jamie, as I have said before I like your opinions as well as bengal rick
[b]but ben, the word catholic values never came out of my mouth. values did. the fact is, if everyone tried to be the best catholic, muslem, jew etc they could be then society would be better as a whole.

all the major religions have about 95% of the same core values.

family, working hard, no kids till marriage, commitment to helping society and your fellow man.[/b]

live by these rules and it would help[/quote]


That's because Onyx is my half brother, yes... I am mulatto.





But joking aside I agree with the bolded text.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[size=3][quote name='rudi32' post='429129' date='Jan 18 2007, 03:40 PM']BJ, pulling quotes from one thing savage said does not mean I agree with that passage.[/quote][/size]


[color="#FF0000"][b]Savage on what should be done to the Iraqi prisoners:[/b]

[quote][i]"And I think there should be [b]no mercy shown to these sub-humans.[/b] I believe that [b]a thousand of them should be killed tomorrow.[/b] I think a thousand of them held in the Iraqi prison should be [b]given 24 hour -- a trial and executed.[/b] I think they need to be shown that we are not going to roll over to them. It won't happen. It won't happen because of the CBS Communists. It won't happen because of the CNN traitors. I won't happen because of the MSNBC empty heads. And we the people are the ones who are going to suffer today."

[b]"I commend" prisoner abuse; "we need more.[/b] Take their deepest fear, the pig, the dog, the woman with the leash, and use it on them to break them!. Use ... little, ugly women. And let 'em take big strapping Iraqis and put 'em on leashes naked." Instead of putting joysticks, [b]I would have liked to have seen dynamite put in their orifices."[/b][/quote]
[/i][/color]

[Guest ONYX]

[color="#FF0000"][b]Micheal Savages' real name is Micheal Weiner and was born a Jew.[/b][/color]

[rudi32]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='429270' date='Jan 18 2007, 06:06 PM'][size=3][/size]
[color="#FF0000"][b]Savage on what should be done to the Iraqi prisoners:[/b]
[/i][/color][/quote]


well black jesus, maybe we should take the high road like the terrorist do..


oh


they just saw the heads off of innocent people screaming god is great



both are wrong



but if we are at war and torture saves american lives

then i say do it

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429293' date='Jan 18 2007, 06:47 PM']well black jesus, maybe we should take the high road like the terrorist do..
oh
they just saw the heads off of innocent people screaming god is great
both are wrong
but if we are at war and torture saves american lives

then i say do it[/quote]



tourtue as defined by phsycial tourture doesnt really work, it usually just makes them say anything true or not to not be tortured.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429293' date='Jan 18 2007, 06:47 PM']well black jesus, maybe we should take the high road like the terrorist do..
oh
they just saw the heads off of innocent people screaming god is great
both are wrong
but if we are at war and torture saves american lives

then i say do it[/quote]


[b]- One he is calling for mass execution ... not torture

- Also I am pretty sure that explosives in someones ass would blow their body in half in just as ghastly as a way as beheading.

- spoken like a true cop. [/b]

[rudi32]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='429298' date='Jan 18 2007, 06:53 PM'][b]- One he is calling for mass execution ... not torture

- Also I am pretty sure that explosives in someones ass would blow their body in half in just as ghastly as a way as beheading.

- spoken like a true cop. [/b][/quote]


whats up with that statement?


did I beat u down?

did u get picked on in school?

man that statement is uncalled for and to be honest rude.

"spoken like a true cop"

so I guess u mean all cops like to torture and stuff.

I see u have issues with my point of view on things, thats fine. My true desire here is thats I would hope everyone would take the high road and be nice and respectable to everyone they meet. But ur pre- disposed ideas of "cops" are terrible. with us, NO ONE would be safe. criminals could do as they will..so on and so on..


but anyway, that hurts that u feel that way, and I truely hope God opens your eyes to some things in the future. Cause I am by no means a perfect man, and I would never torture or cause undo pain on any person. What the govt does is one thing and we can talk about that (i thought we were)...but to make a statement like that shows me you have some issues.

Im sorry if I offend you, thats not what I want to do. I want to always take the high road and become a better person. but if you cant be nice in a response, then Ill go back to the bengals forums.

thx all and God bless




NEW EDIT

I found this posted by Black Jesus


Bush and the PNAC had a hand in 9/11

Osama has been dead for years, and that we produce his tapes

The CIA had a hand in killing MLK and Malcolm X

that the Jews of the Biblical era are groups of present day Ethiopians, and that the so called "Jews" of Israel and Hollywood etc ... are mostly fake Khazars from E Europe who hijacked the religion

Crack was propagated in the US by the FBI to blacks

the Holocaust did Occur

Aids did not occur naturally, it was initially man made on purpose

OJ Killed Nicole

we did land on the moon

Israeli Zionists control parts of the U.S. government

Humans will be extinct from Earth in under 300 years

There will be a large terror attack in the U.S. before the mid term elections

Cancer is caused by the toxicity of our food





I don't believe

in Ghosts

in Aliens

in God

in Angels

in The Devil

in excorcism

in the Bible

in the Qur'an

Jesus ever existed


I respect your beliefs, and I will pray for you, because I feel you are totally lost if you really believe this and dont believe the others.

God Bless

[Guest BlackJesus]

[size=3][quote name='rudi32' post='429317' date='Jan 18 2007, 07:25 PM']I will pray for you[/quote][/size]


[b]I find it insulting and disingenuous when someone states they are going to "pray for you" ... when you don't request them too.

If I believed I needed your prayers I would ask for them .... but trust me .... I want nothing to do with whatever thing you and Savage Nation believe you communicate with.

I think you know where you can stick your smarmy prayer and self righteous pharisee shtick.


[/b]

[|Bengal Migration|]

an Olbermann clip showing the deliberate slanting of the news @ Fox.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulh6_lOif0&NR"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulh6_lOif0&NR[/url]

if you can see this, and still find that fox is unbiased... i'll just let Keith report, and you can decide for yourself

[Guest ONYX]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429317' date='Jan 18 2007, 07:25 PM']whats up with that statement?
did I beat u down?[/quote]

[color="#FF0000"][b]That depends........were you in Jacksonville in the fall of 2005 ?[/b][/color]

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='ONYX' post='429340' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:05 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]That depends........were you in Jacksonville in the fall of 2005 ?[/b][/color]
[/quote]



I almost choked on a bacon bit from my salad. (literaly)

[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]

[Guest ONYX]

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='429342' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:07 PM']I almost choked on a bacon bit from my salad. (literaly)

[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]:rofl:[img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img][/quote]

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote name='sneaky' post='429340' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:05 PM'][color="#FF0000"][b]That depends........were you in Jacksonville in the fall of 2005 ?[/b][/color]
[/quote]


[b][img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img]


Zing [/b]

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='WhoDeyUK' post='429339' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:04 PM']an Olbermann clip showing the deliberate slanting of the news @ Fox.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulh6_lOif0&NR"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oulh6_lOif0&NR[/url]

if you can see this, and still find that fox is unbiased... i'll just let Keith report, and you can decide for yourself [/quote]


I saw a report he did (and I rarely watch any TV news these days, just get it off the net) where he was calling the tv show 24 right wing propaganda, and Im thinking clearly you didnt watch last season.

[rudi32]

bj I HAVE MET PEOPLE LOST LIKE YOU, AND DEEP DOWN INSIDE U R LONELY SCARED AND HURT.

ITS OK

I WILL PRAY U FIND GOD, BECAUSE IF ANYONE NEEDS HIM

ITS U

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429348' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:13 PM']bj I HAVE MET PEOPLE LOST LIKE YOU, AND DEEP DOWN INSIDE U R LONELY SCARED AND HURT.

ITS OK

I WILL PRAY U FIND GOD, BECAUSE IF ANYONE NEEDS HIM

ITS U[/quote]


There are no one person above any other that need God more, we all need him, some just refuse him.

[|Bengal Migration|]

[quote name='Jamie_B' post='429346' date='Jan 19 2007, 01:09 AM']I saw a report he did (and I rarely watch any TV news these days, just get it off the net) where he was calling the tv show 24 right wing propaganda, and Im thinking clearly you didnt watch last season. [/quote]
nah, i am completely bored with 24. i'd started to watch each season, but never made it through to the end. just got tedious. now i don't bother trying.

did you happen to watch this clip? does anyone else find it, i'll leave it at odd to keep things civil, that fox execs are basically scripting the "news" and it's slant as they report it? can anyone possibly tell me that this is journalism?

and for the record, the interviewee is clearly full of vitriol toward the administration, which is to me a shame, because the story stands on its own without his unnecessary slant being added to it...

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='WhoDeyUK' post='429350' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:15 PM']nah, i am completely bored with 24. i'd started to watch each season, but never made it through to the end. just got tedious. now i don't bother trying.

did you happen to watch this clip? does anyone else find it, i'll leave it at odd to keep things civil, that fox execs are basically scripting the "news" and it's slant as they report it? can anyone possibly tell me that this is journalism?

and for the record, the interviewee is clearly full of vitriol toward the administration, which is to me a shame, because the story stands on its own without his unnecessary slant being added to it...[/quote]


No I didnt and Ill tell you why. I suspect its someone saying foxnews lies, and then goes into it. See to me its like Al Franken Limbaugh a liar, and then going into it, and then Rush calling Franken a liar and going into it...back and forth back and forth untill no one knows what the truth even is anymore. Im beyond tired of these talking heads and prefer to get my news through the internet (main news sources) and sift through the truth as opposed to having these pompus smarmy assholes (on both sides of the isle) yell their version of the truth at me.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote name='rudi32' post='429348' date='Jan 18 2007, 08:13 PM']bj I HAVE MET PEOPLE LOST LIKE YOU, AND DEEP DOWN INSIDE U R LONELY SCARED AND HURT.

ITS OK

I WILL PRAY U FIND GOD, BECAUSE IF ANYONE NEEDS HIM

ITS U[/quote]


[b]yippee .... the Savage Nation torture king is going to pray for me .... can't wait [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img]

Also I am not lost nor scared .... and you should first take the log out of your own eye, before you comment on the speck in mine.

now go pull over a black guy in a nice car or something. [/b]