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GUN CONTROL & YOU

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GUN CONTROL & YOU  

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  1. 1. Do you believe in ANY level of gun control whatsoever ?

    • Yes
      37
    • NO !
      6

  2. 2. Do you believe that the 2nd amendment applies only to "well trained militias" and not to individuals ?

    • Yes
      7
    • No
      29
    • Maybe
      7

  3. 3. Do you believe that people should be limited in the # of guns they can own ?

    • No, unlimited # of guns for law abiding citizens
      22
    • Yes, you have to have a limit
      13
    • Yes, that limit should be one gun
      3
    • Yes, that limit should be NO guns
      5

  4. 4. Should semi automatic weapons be banned ?

    • Yes
      17
    • No
      20
    • in some cases
      6

  5. 5. Should high capacity clips be banned ?

    • Yes
      23
    • No
      15
    • in some cases
      5

  6. 6. Should all gun purchases come with a background check ?

    • Yes
      40
    • No
      3

  7. 7. Should all gun purchases come with a 48 hr waiting period ?

    • Yes
      38
    • No
      5

  8. 8. Should citizens have to register all guns with the police ?

    • Yes
      31
    • No
      12

  9. 9. Should citizens be able to carry concealed weapons anywhere ?

    • Yes, anywhere
      4
    • In most places
      24
    • Not anywhere
      15

  10. 10. I believe the large amount of guns in America makes America _______ ?

    • Safer
      14
    • Less safe
      16
    • Free from possible tyranny
      6
    • A scene out of Grand theft auto
      7

  11. 11. Do you own a gun yourself ?

    • Yes
      12
    • No
      31

  12. 12. Does the 2nd amendment cover owning a bazooka ?

    • Yes
      10
    • No
      33

  13. 13. Is the NRA in America too powerful ?

    • Yes, they need to be reigned in
      15
    • No, I wish they had more power
      2
    • No, they lobby like anyone else
      26

  14. 14. Is rampant gun ownership a good way to combat crime ?

    • Yes, will make criminals think twice
      17
    • No, the criminal will bring a bigger gun
      4
    • No, citizens are not police
      15
    • Maybe
      7

  15. 15. Should guns come with a fingerprint device that only lets the owner pull the trigger ?

    • Yes
      20
    • No
      23

  16. 16. In your opinion, are there too many guns in America ?

    • Yes
      22
    • No
      21

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475316' date='Apr 20 2007, 01:58 PM']I dont agree with that at all, it simply means that I dont understand those type, I dont get their enjoyment thats all.[/quote]


and b/c of that, you dismiss any points they make... ?
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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475317' date='Apr 20 2007, 01:58 PM']In my opinion, one of the worst ideas I've ever heard in the debate about gun control came from you. Gun owners should be forced to pay dues to a militia???

Ted Nugent has never said anything that ridiculous about guns.[/quote]


Why is that a bad idea? Does that not fall in line with the text of the 2nd admenment?
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475319' date='Apr 20 2007, 01:59 PM']There is a fine line between passion and insanity. I mean Backer used to call BJ insane on occasion.[/quote]


BJ is insane on occasion.


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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475322' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:00 PM']Why is that a bad idea? Does that not fall in line with the text of the 2nd admenment?[/quote]


What purpose would it serve?
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[quote name='bengalrick' post='475320' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:00 PM']and b/c of that, you dismiss any points they make... ?[/quote]


I didnt say I dismiss them, I said I dont take them as seriously.

I mean do you take someone like Cindy Sheehan seriously?
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475325' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:00 PM']Then I would argue that your being insane on this occasion. ;)

:meatwad:[/quote]


Am not. You are.



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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475319' date='Apr 20 2007, 12:59 PM']There is a fine line between passion and insanity. I mean Backer used to call BJ insane on occasion.[/quote]

Extremism is at least fun. There's nothing more boring than moderates, and a cool-headed, level discussion. Give me radicals, and a heroic backdrop of clash between radicals, you there you have a recipe for immortality that will engender social change, flourishing arts (both in the time of the radicals, and later as people look back on the Great Epoch), and heroes to inspire new generations.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475329' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:02 PM']I mean do you take someone like Cindy Sheehan seriously?[/quote]


BJ does.

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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475330' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:03 PM']Am not. You are.
:badger:[/quote]


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[quote name='Actium' post='475332' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:04 PM']Extremism is at least fun. There's nothing more boring than moderates, and a cool-headed, level discussion. Give me radicals, and a heroic backdrop of clash between radicals, you there you have a recipe for immortality that will engender social change, flourishing arts (both in the time of the radicals, and later as people look back on the Great Epoch), and heroes to inspire new generations.[/quote]

:lol:

[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475334' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:05 PM']BJ does.

:)[/quote]


And you call him nuts because of it. ;)

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475331' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:04 PM']It simply is the idea that it would help to regulate them (another word in that admenment) more.[/quote]

I don't need to be regulated. I need to have the ability to defend myself and my family. I don't see how paying dues to a militia serves any purpose, other than being some sort of punishment for my desire to own a gun.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475329' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:02 PM']I didnt say I dismiss them, I said I dont take them as seriously.

I mean do you take someone like Cindy Sheehan seriously?[/quote]

cindy sheehan doesn't know what she is talking about when she criticizes bush for not being strong enough on north korea, or being too strong or iran or whatever...

ted nuggent knows what he's talking about though, when it comes to gun rights...

so again, not a valid comparion...

how about this, if michael moore says something, should i automatically ignore him?
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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475341' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:10 PM']I don't need to be regulated. I need to have the ability to defend myself and my family. I don't see how paying dues to a militia serves any purpose, other than being some sort of punishment for my desire to own a gun.[/quote]


Owning a gun is a luxary, we dont issue them to our citizens. (though Im waiting on the next line.... "maybee we should")

[quote name='bengalrick' post='475342' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:11 PM']cindy sheehan doesn't know what she is talking about when she criticizes bush for not being strong enough on north korea, or being too strong or iran or whatever...

ted nuggent knows what he's talking about though, when it comes to gun rights...

so again, not a valid comparion...

[b]how about this, if michael moore says something, should i automatically ignore him?[/b][/quote]


Well should you?
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475336' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:06 PM']And you call him nuts because of it. ;)[/quote]

That's not why I call him nuts.

Cindy Sheehan's opinions are valid, even if I don't agree with them. She has a different perspective than I do. Ted Nugent has a different perspective than you do.

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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475344' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:13 PM']That's not why I call him nuts.

Cindy Sheehan's opinions are valid, even if I don't agree with them. She has a different perspective than I do. Ted Nugent has a different perspective than you do.[/quote]


Then you should explain it, because thats how Ive always take why you call him nuts.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475343' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:13 PM']Well should you?[/quote]

i don't ignore people based on who they are, with the excpetion of biggots like a david duke... although i clearly would have answered this question differently in years past... as much as i hate him, i think his goals are for what is best (in his head) for our country...
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475343' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:13 PM']Owning a gun is a luxary, we dont issue them to our citizens. (though Im waiting on the next line.... "maybee we should")[/quote]

It's not a luxury, it's a right.
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[quote name='bengalrick' post='475346' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:15 PM']i don't ignore people based on who they are... although i clearly would have answered this question differently in years past... as much as i hate him, i think his goals are for what is best (in his head) for our country...[/quote]


But do you take his opinions as seriously as you would anyone else?
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475350' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:17 PM']But do you take his opinions as seriously as you would anyone else?[/quote]

fair question...

no :)
<edit> although, i would at least rebuke his facts, instead of simply saying "but its michael moore so i won't even read what he wrote"...

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[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475347' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:15 PM']It's not a luxury, it's a right.[/quote]


So then lets start doling them out to those who want them.

By luxary I mean you have to pay for it.

Needs
......

Food
Shelter
ect

Luxary
...........
Big Screen TVs
Nice Cars
Guns
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475345' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:15 PM']Then you should explain it, because thats how Ive always take why you call him nuts.[/quote]

No, Cindy Sheehan is not why I've called BJ nuts, but let's not make this thread about BJ.
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[quote name='bengalrick' post='475351' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:19 PM']fair question...

no :)[/quote]


And so now you know what I mean when I say I dont take Nuget's opinion seriously. ;)

[quote name='BengalBacker' post='475353' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:19 PM']No, Cindy Sheehan is not why I've called BJ nuts, but let's not make this thread about BJ.[/quote]


It doenst have to be but that is only one example, and now Im pretty confused as to why you think that.

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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475352' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:19 PM']So then lets start doling them out to those who want them.

By luxary I mean you have to pay for it.

Needs
......

Food
Shelter
ect

Luxary
...........
Big Screen TVs
Nice Cars
Guns[/quote]


The right to defend yourself is right up there with food and shelter.
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[quote name='Jamie_B' post='475354' date='Apr 20 2007, 02:20 PM']And so now you know what I mean when I say I dont take Nuget's opinion seriously. ;)[/quote]

i added some more to that post that is important for making my point...

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