Ben Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Marvin Lewis: Head coach Mike Brown: President Katie Blackburn: Executive vice president Troy Blackburn: Business development Jim Lippincott: Director of football operations • At first glance, this looks like the most confusing and dysfunctional front office in the NFL, and it is difficult to analyze who has the power -- but the Bengals believe in their system, and at the end of the day, that might be all that counts. • As usual, at the top is Mike Brown, who runs the entire organization. Brown gives his coaches and advisers a lot of power in personnel decisions and will rarely go against Marvin Lewis. • Katie Blackburn and husband, Troy, run the business side of the organization. Depending whom you talk to, they can be considered very efficient or a major roadblock when it comes to contracts and personnel -- but they do have significant power and are part of the Brown family. • Further complicating things are the roles of Bill Tobin, John Cooper and Bruce Coslet. All three are listed as consultants and theoretically are film evaluators, but they have the ear of upper management, which adds more voices to the decision-making process. • Pete Brown is senior VP of player personnel; Paul Brown Jr. is VP of player personnel; and Duke Tobin (Bill's son) is director of player personnel, but most of his expertise is on the pro side. Longtime scout Jim Lippincott is director of FB operations and really the face of the muddled Bengals' front office; he keeps everything running and organized. • There are no scouts in this organization, which means the coaches are heavily involved in player workout and personnel decisions. The way this department is set up, it gives the Bengals' coaches a lot of opportunities for film evaluation -- but nothing substitutes an area scout knowing the players in his area. As a result, with coaches involved, the workout and film production becomes most important and character and intelligence are not scrutinized. There are a lot of titles here, but the power structure is most confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatScratchFever Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 God, I didn't realize Lippincott had risen to that level. I had him as a study hall monitor in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 [img]http://www.business.uc.edu/images/MarvinLewis.jpg[/img] We have the best - leader - scout - mind - plan maker - visionary - Coach All rolled up into 1 Guy...... I love the fact that we don't have a GM.... Marvin is our GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsCat Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Fuckin right man...... he is on top of it all and it shows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 as we do in all things in marvin we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bengal_Smoov Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Do you guys think that if Marvin is able to take us the playoffs he will get the GM title, I think it would be a good move to reward him in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BengalsOwn Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Wow what a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the donkey slayer Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 [quote name='Bengal_Smoov' date='Mar 11 2005, 03:50 PM']Do you guys think that if Marvin is able to take us the playoffs he will get the GM title, I think it would be a good move to reward him in that way. [right][post="60691"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] i say if it ain't broke don't fix it. i guess the only questions are: is it broke, and does marvin want the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bengalrick Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 [quote name='Bengal_Smoov' date='Mar 11 2005, 04:50 PM']Do you guys think that if Marvin is able to take us the playoffs he will get the GM title, I think it would be a good move to reward him in that way. [right][post="60691"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] i would say hell yeah... if he wins a couple of superbowls, he will want to retire or go somewhere else or something... he already is, but is getting screwed out of the money for it... it would be a great move on mike browns part imo... KEEP THE MESSIAH HAPPY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle1 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 The Bengals have at least two full time scouts, Greg Seamon and Earl Biederman. They are listed on the website. I thought the old TE coach (John Garrett?) was a scout too but I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 John Cooper does some scouting for the bengals as well, he was at the ohio state pro day scouting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patmo Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 The Bengals system has changed under Marvin.You've got six scouts,regardless of titles and 16 coaches who are very active in the decision making process.This group will spend endless hours reviewing film with personal follow up interviews after the film study.In addition,the whole scouting staff,personnel people and coaching staff attend the all star games and combine in Indy.Finally,if they're interested in selected players they attend the college pro day workouts.They also subscribe to a pro scouting service like BLESTO. In other words they work their butts off and have a line on anybody of interest.The film work is the most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patmo Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 [quote name='bengalrick' date='Mar 11 2005, 06:54 PM']i would say hell yeah... if he wins a couple of superbowls, he will want to retire or go somewhere else or something... he already is, but is getting screwed out of the money for it... it would be a great move on mike browns part imo... KEEP THE MESSIAH HAPPY!!! [right][post="60719"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Marvin should coach as long as he wants and then become GM.Why ? Because he understands tghe winning process and is unshakeable in his beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 [quote name='BlackJesus' date='Mar 11 2005, 04:27 PM'][img]http://www.business.uc.edu/images/MarvinLewis.jpg[/img] We have the best - leader - scout - mind - plan maker - visionary - Coach All rolled up into 1 Guy...... I love the fact that we don't have a GM.... Marvin is our GM [right][post="60676"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] Marvin looks like a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt_Six Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 [quote name='BlackJesus' date='Mar 11 2005, 04:27 PM'][img]http://www.business.uc.edu/images/MarvinLewis.jpg[/img] We have the best - leader - scout - mind - plan maker - visionary - Coach All rolled up into 1 Guy...... I love the fact that we don't have a GM.... Marvin is our GM [right][post="60676"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post][/right][/quote] nice suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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