sparky151

Eyes on the prize. Keep blowing for Burrow. Until the Gints win another and they may not, we need to keep losing.

Not high. I live in Columbus where our local baseball team is owned by the county. At the time PBS was built, it cost more than the team was worth. I'd think there would be enough people fed up with the losing and the way the Brown family runs the team that public ownership, ala Green Bay would be popular. Especially if it was financially profitable, as the Columbus Clippers are.

Doubt it means anything for AJ. Just Willis replacing Tate.

I expect AJ to be tagged but wouldn't be surprised if he held out and didn't sign his tag. The Bengals need to make fundamental changes to the way they operate if they don't want to lose double digit games each year. But biggest change required is for MB to withdraw from any football related decision making. He won't. That's why eminent domain makes sense and I'm surprised no Cincinnati politicians are pushing it.

Um, Ogbuehi, Fisher, and Price were all high draft picks on the O-line. Why would we assume that throwing more picks at the problem will fix it if the same people are making the picks?

The NFL doesn't do things the NCAA way with forfeits or playoff ineligibility. If the Pats were taping the Bengals sideline, they should get a big fine, lose a high draft pick and Belichick should be suspended the rest of the season.

If Bengals got all 3 Miami firsts, MB would just take Herbert. After his rookie struggles, we might be in position to take Lawrence or Fields in 2020 but MB would then be invested in Herbert so we'd pass.

Injuries. And a lot of turnovers.

If the city tried to seize the Bengals, it would be an Ohio case, not Federal. There simply isn't a right to refuse seizure, which is why the right to fair compensation is important and guaranteed by the US Constitution. If the Bengals don't want to be subject to the Modell law, they shouldn't have accepted the various public subsidies they've received. It's too late now to give the money back to avoid the law. In the Columbus Crew case, MLS used the same law firm (Proskauer) used by the NFL, NBA, and MLB. They lost every ruling and didn't try to move the case to Federal court though they argued and lost their claim that the Modell law violated the US Constitution's interstate commerce clause.

You seem to be overlooking the leading case on the limits of eminent domain. Kelo said a city could take a woman's house and resell it to a real estate developer who would pay more in property taxes. If people had some right to refuse fair payment for their property, we'd never be able to build an electric grid, national pipeline network, etc. But the power to take property isn't limited to real estate. In the case of the dive bars, they didn't own any real estate (deliberately so for liability reasons). So while the properties were taken, so were the businesses which operated in them. Their trademarks, liquor licenses, and what little tangible property they had in glassware etc.

Yes, in the Colts case, they got out of the jurisdiction before they could be served. In the Raiders case, the California Supreme court eventually ruled they could be taken but again they had already moved by then. Likewise with the former Seattle Supersonics moving to Oklahoma City. When Ohio passed the Modell law in 1996, those events were recent history. Thus the prohibition on moving until local residents or governments had a chance to buy a team. If Cincinnati city council proposed a buyout of the Brown family, it would have to pass an ordinance, have multiple readings, line up financing, etc. It wouldn't be a surprise move but if the Bengals suddenly declared they had moved to somewhere else, it wouldn't prevent the application of the Modell law and the sale of the team. The team's lease with Hamilton county would prevent a lack of jurisdiction

Yes, certainly they can. More than 200 years of history and lots of court decisions support the power of local governments to take property provided fair compensation is paid. What provision of law do you think would prevent it? There are practical obstacles such as arranging financing but no serious legal impediments.

Is there any doubt the team will tag AJ?

To win a Super bowl, a team has to win 3 or 4 playoff games in the same season. Let's just say Marvin has shown no sign of even the baby steps of winning the first game before the harder playoff games.

Agree the bars were wise to take the buyouts, they were fairly generous. But that has nothing to do with the city's power to take the tangible and intangible property. There's really no question that Ohio law allows publicly owned sports teams and allows the taking of privately owned ones by local governments. Thus my question as to why local politicians in Cincinnati aren't proposing something along those lines. The NFL is basically a partnership of 32 independent businesses, unlike MLS. There is a league rule prohibiting public ownership (with a grandfather exemption for Green Bay). But that league rule doesn't trump sovereign powers. If the city council seized the team, paid the Browns fair value, then tried to sell it to Jeff Bezos or whomever, the league could approve or disapprove of his candidacy. But the league isn't free to dissolve the Bengals team or eject them from the partnership. Indeed, the league's response would likely be to ask the city to sell the team to a rich individual (not named Mike Brown).