1st Amendment huh ???? Cindy Sheehan Arrested at State of the Union....

[Guest BengalBacker]

[quote name='Bengal_Smoov' post='211913' date='Feb 1 2006, 09:40 AM']Ms. Sheehan deserves all of our respect, that means you Backer, her son was sacrificed for our "security". For those who call her names(Backer), what have you sacrificed for this country, have you sacrificed a life that you developed in your body for 9 months, suffered unimaginable pain to bring into the world, nutured and supported for 18 years? Probably not.

It's not right to say to her "get over it" or call her "psychotic attention whore Dumbass psycho-bitch", who are you to tell when to stop grieving her son's death.

Another reason why I respect Cindy Sheehan is she is actually doing something, she is getting involved in a cause she believes in. How many people do you know who constantly bitch and moan about life but never act, Sheehan is doing what she feels to be the right thing to do.

Besides the whole world knows this is a bullshit invasion founded on lies and decite, how can the reasons for war change in the middle of it? You know it too, Sheehan has the balls to face our government head on and call them on their bullshit, that is what is great about America the fact that she has the right to do that. Anybody who has the moxy to try and show up this dipshit who stole elections and now is the president, I can respect.[/quote]


No political bias in any of that.

Just because her son died in the war, that doesn't mean she can't be a "psychotic attention whore Dumbass psycho-bitch". I've never said she didn't have the right to grieve, or protest. Like I said, there's a time and a place for everything. During the Presidential State of the Union Address isn't one of them.

Her son deserves our respect. Her? Not so much.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[size=3][b]Some of you would probably also be the guys saying "get that dumbass rosa parks off the bus, doesn't she know the rules to sit in the back" .....[/size]

Protest use to be an American novelty ..... what seperated our fascist state from the other ones where they run over kids at Tianamen square ..... however under Fuhrer Bush we are utilizing Stalins old prisons, illegally spying on Americans, rummaging through library records, invading peoples privacy in violation of the 4th amendment, indefinetly detaining "combatants" in CUBA while calling Castro the "unlawful" one, and invading nations who we think might still have some of the old weapons WE SOLD THEM !!!

Now why the hell would anyone want to protest that ???? I mean when you have a New Ipod and flat screen ..... who really cares right ??? I mean I have the freedom to watch Porn and drink beer so hell this is Utopia.


This dress code argument is bullshit ..... you all know that if she had worn a dress that said "stop the war" on it that she still would have been arrested. She was there because she was invited to be there. It should then be her right to wear any message she wants on her shirt .... To protest is not unAmerican ..... in fact is one of the most "American" things one can do ..... however under Bush the majority have been led to believe that "Blind obedience" is patriotic and American .... and for that Bush is allowed to slowly shred the constituion and invade parts of the world that are no threat to us .... [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//30.gif[/img] [/b]

[Jamie_B]

BJ my friend your missing the entire point. I dont care if she protests, I agree with you its probabally the most American thing you can do. But 1. Do it within the rules and 2. Even if she doesnt agree with her son, and what he believed in fine, but from a personal standpoint I simply disagree with protesting in something the person who died beliveing .... I simply dont understand how that honors his memory. It something I just am not comprahending.

I mean I disagree with the war as well, but if my child was fighting in it beliving in it, and was killed doing such... I dont know how I could not honor his belifs after he passed, even if I disagreed with them. Its not that Im saying she doesnt have the right to do such, she does, Im saying I dont understand it and its not something I would do. To me its disrespectfull of the person.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]Even if she doesnt agree with her son, and what he believed in fine, but from a personal standpoint I simply disagree with protesting in something the person who died beliveing .... I simply dont understand how that honors his memory. It something I just am not comprahending.

I mean I disagree with the war as well, but if my child was fighting in it beliving in it, and was killed doing such... I dont know how I could not honor his belifs after he passed, even if I disagreed with them. Its not that Im saying she doesnt have the right to do such, she does, Im saying I dont understand it and its not something I would do. To me its disrespectfull of the person.[/quote]

[b]
1. How do we know what the son was thinking ..... We now know that Pat Tillman (an avid Noam Chomsky reader come to find out) was very critical of us being in Iraq, wanted Kerry to win President, and thought that Bush was leaving his responsibilities in Afghanistan ....
Maybe she read her sons letters or spoke with him and he had doubts about his mission ?

2. Also just because he signed up for college money or to protect the nation .... does not mean then that he personally believes in every mission he is sent on ..... Also at the time of his death Bush was still saying their were WMD's .... His mother now knows that Bush lied to trumpet the push to war ..... and she probably knows her son better than we do .... and maybe she believes that he would be protesting the war now ..... [/b]

[Jamie_B]

[url="http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/08/army_specialist.html"]http://www.blackfive.net/main/2005/08/army_specialist.html[/url]

[quote]Army Specialist Casey Sheehan - Someone You Should (Have) Know(n)
Casey Sheehan grew up in a devout Catholic home. He served as an altar boy and then as a key member of his church's youth group for years.

When he was old enough, Casey joined the Boy Scouts, becoming the very second Eagle Scout out of his troop.

He enlisted in the Army when he was twenty years old. He decided to be a mechanic. He would undergo Combat Lifesaver training - a class on how to give IVs and treat trauma only second in intense learning to combat medic training. He was also certified to assist with giving communion to soldiers while in the field.

Specialist Sheehan re-enlisted in the Army in 2004 knowing full well that he could be sent into a combat zone.

Casey Sheehan was a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Battalion, 82nd Field Artillery Regiment.

On April 3rd, 2004, forces loyal to Shi'ite cleric Muqtada al'Sadr stormed police stations and government offices in Sadr City (a city of over 2 million). They knew the Americans would come, and they wanted a fight. Muqtada Sadr was working them up into a religious frenzy. And he had his thugs murder anyone who he thought might stand in his way - even other Shi'ite clerics. His forces were known as the Mahdi Army.

American forces quickly surrounded Muqtada al'Sadr's quarters.

On April 4th, 2004, al'Sadr's Mahdi forces blocked roadways and bridges with burning tires, vehicles and trash. Visibility was less than 300 meters anywhere in the city. They began to attack American vehicles on patrol throughout Sadr City - some were protecting Shia worshipers (Holy Arbayeen) while others were escorting city government vehicles.

A battle raged across Sadr City. Insurgents assaulted American troops while looters and mobs formed and stormed through the streets. Word spread quickly across the American FOBs that there was trouble.


Soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment were ambushed with RPGs and pinned down and dying. While fighting off an attack himself, the Commander of the 2/5th, LTC Volesky, called for help. A Quick Reaction Force (QRF) was formed of volunteers - their mission was to go out and rescue the American troops.

Casey Sheehan's Sergeant asked for volunteers. Sheehan had just returned from Mass. After Sheehan volunteered once, the Sergeant asked Sheehan again if he wanted to go on the mission. According to many reports (and according to his own mother), Casey responded, "Where my Chief goes, I go."

The QRF was launched. Not long after entering the Mahdi area, the QRF was channeled onto a dead-end street where the roofs were lined with snipers, RPGs, and even some militia throwing burning tires onto the vehicles. The Mahdi blocked the exit and let loose with everything they had.

Sheehan's vehicle was hit with multiple RPGs and automatic-weapons fire.

Specialist Casey Sheehan and Corporal Forest J. Jostes were killed.

A second QRF was formed - all volunteers - to go rescue the first. Specialist Ahmed Cason was hit in the second QRF - but kept fighting until he bled to death.

Seven men died with Casey Sheehan on Sunday, April 4th, 2004.

They were Spc. Robert R. Arsiaga, Spc. Ahmed Cason, Sgt. Yihjyh L. "Eddie" Chen, Spc. Stephen D. Hiller, Spc. Israel Garza, Cpl. Forest J. Jostes, and Sgt. Michael W. Mitchell.

It was Palm Sunday.

Palm Sunday commemorates the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem. Back then, the palm frond was a symbol of victory - laid beneath the feet of those of the highest honor and triumph. Some believe it was this honor fit for a king that forced Jesus's enemies to act and crucify him.

In recognition of Casey, the Catholic Chapel at Fort Hood, Texas (where Sheehan was stationed) named the Knights of Columbus chapter the "Casey Austin Sheehan Council".

Casey also received the Bronze Star for his Valor that day.

Palm fronds for the most honored.[/quote]

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='212070' date='Feb 1 2006, 01:59 PM'][quote]Even if she doesnt agree with her son, and what he believed in fine, but from a personal standpoint I simply disagree with protesting in something the person who died beliveing .... I simply dont understand how that honors his memory. It something I just am not comprahending.

I mean I disagree with the war as well, but if my child was fighting in it beliving in it, and was killed doing such... I dont know how I could not honor his belifs after he passed, even if I disagreed with them. Its not that Im saying she doesnt have the right to do such, she does, Im saying I dont understand it and its not something I would do. To me its disrespectfull of the person.[/quote]

[b]
1. How do we know what the son was thinking ..... We now know that Pat Tillman (an avid Noam Chomsky reader come to find out) was very critical of us being in Iraq, wanted Kerry to win President, and thought that Bush was leaving his responsibilities in Afghanistan ....
Maybe she read her sons letters or spoke with him and he had doubts about his mission ?

2. Also just because he signed up for college money or to protect the nation .... does not mean then that he personally believes in every mission he is sent on ..... Also at the time of his death Bush was still saying their were WMD's .... His mother now knows that Bush lied to trumpet the push to war ..... and she probably knows her son better than we do .... and maybe she believes that he would be protesting the war now ..... [/b]
[/quote]

1. Where are the letters? She has had ample time to discuss them if they exsited I believe she would have by now.

2. You can get college money doing 1 tour, he reinlisted.

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]1. Where are the letters? She has had ample time to discuss them if they exsited I believe she would have by now.[/quote]
[b]
I am not sure if she has discussed them or not ..... she might have already ..... and the people that hate her wouldn't have cared nor listened ....[/b]


[quote]2. You can get college money doing 1 tour, he reinlisted.[/quote]

[b]there were stop loss programs in place that were preventing people from leaving ..... I know because my Sister had to reup and served in Iraq as a Nurse ..... and she has only recently began to reflect that their mission over there may not have been just ..... reflection is often needed to come to such a conclusion ..... ask the numerous Vietnam vets who are haunted by their deeds to this day [/b]

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='BlackJesus' post='212081' date='Feb 1 2006, 02:13 PM'][quote]1. Where are the letters? She has had ample time to discuss them if they exsited I believe she would have by now.[/quote]
[b]
I am not sure if she has discussed them or not ..... she might have already ..... and the people that hate her wouldn't have cared nor listened ....[/b]


[quote]2. You can get college money doing 1 tour, he reinlisted.[/quote]

[b]there were stop loss programs in place that were preventing people from leaving ..... I know because my Sister had to reup and served in Iraq as a Nurse ..... and she has only recently began to reflect that their mission over there may not have been just ..... reflection is often needed to come to such a conclusion ..... ask the numerous Vietnam vets who are haunted by their deeds to this day [/b]
[/quote]

1. I'd listen, I dont hate her at all... I feel for her, please dont put me in that category, I just dont understand her grieveing process, and how it honors her sons belifs.

2. Right but he was volunteering for missions, thats something you dont have to do

[Guest Coy Bacon]

BJ, you're doing a good job trying to keep a candle lit in this dark and windy environment.

[Guest bengalrick]

i certainly don't hate her, but i hate the fact that she is turning such a touching and honorable situation, and making a full out of herself...

she is being used by people like bj and coy.... i feel extremely sad for her... she can't stay out of the spotlight now...

[STRAYCAT]

Sorry but like backer said..there is a time and a place. She has her time on tv in front of the ranch,whitehouse or where ever. The state of union is the biggest presidential broadcast..she has no
right to disrupt the speech for her personal views. If someone wanted to do something during the Clinton speeches I would fel the same way...It's just like having a steeler fan run on the field to disrupt Palmer.


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ps mark my words about WMD..Syria has them now..the UN gave him plenty of time

[Guest BlackJesus]

[quote]i certainly don't hate her, but i hate the fact that she is turning such a touching and honorable situation, and making a full out of herself...[/quote]

[b]kind of like when "W" touted the poor family behind his wife that had lost their son and read his poorly misguided Gun Ho death letter ..... where the soldier perfectly spit back out all of the bullshit the army had fed him in the first place .... [/b]

[|BengalsFREAK|]

To say that it's not OK to protest at a government function is just wrong. Maybe ol' Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock and others shouldn't have banded together to write an illegal document that we now call the Declaration of Independance? Clearly it was against the law at the time. Let us not forget the Boston Tea Party, another illegal event done in protest to outrageous taxation. Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly were made LAW by those people that FOUGHT the system. If you want to speak out agaisnt the goverment, that's your RIGHT in this country. It does amaze me that the laws in this country seem to be different when it pertains to government officials. This country was built by people that fought the system, people that protested for what they believed was right. A lot of them gave their lives protesting for what we now take for granted. These are the things Dubya should have anticipated when he sent us to war. When soldiers die, families cry. Unless the family is willing to pose for a photo-op, Bush doesn't want to hear from them. As the person that sent their children to war, he should be required to give all of the families of dead soldiers 5-10 minutes of his time.

You don't have to agree with the woman, you only have to respect her right to protest. Even if she's protesting against the guy you voted for.

[Lawman]

[quote name='BengalsFREAK' post='212534' date='Feb 2 2006, 06:26 AM']To say that it's not OK to protest at a government function is just wrong. Maybe ol' Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock and others shouldn't have banded together to write an illegal document that we now call the Declaration of Independance? Clearly it was against the law at the time. Let us not forget the Boston Tea Party, another illegal event done in protest to outrageous taxation. Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly were made LAW by those people that FOUGHT the system. If you want to speak out agaisnt the goverment, that's your RIGHT in this country. It does amaze me that the laws in this country seem to be different when it pertains to government officials. This country was built by people that fought the system, people that protested for what they believed was right. A lot of them gave their lives protesting for what we now take for granted. These are the things Dubya should have anticipated when he sent us to war. When soldiers die, families cry. Unless the family is willing to pose for a photo-op, [u]Bush doesn't want to hear from them. As the person that sent their children to war, he should be required to give all of the families of dead soldiers 5-10 minutes of his time. [/u][/quote]

She had her 5-10 minutes with the President<_<

[whodey319]

[quote name='Lawman' post='212567' date='Feb 2 2006, 08:29 AM'][quote name='BengalsFREAK' post='212534' date='Feb 2 2006, 06:26 AM']
To say that it's not OK to protest at a government function is just wrong. Maybe ol' Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock and others shouldn't have banded together to write an illegal document that we now call the Declaration of Independance? Clearly it was against the law at the time. Let us not forget the Boston Tea Party, another illegal event done in protest to outrageous taxation. Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly were made LAW by those people that FOUGHT the system. If you want to speak out agaisnt the goverment, that's your RIGHT in this country. It does amaze me that the laws in this country seem to be different when it pertains to government officials. This country was built by people that fought the system, people that protested for what they believed was right. A lot of them gave their lives protesting for what we now take for granted. These are the things Dubya should have anticipated when he sent us to war. When soldiers die, families cry. Unless the family is willing to pose for a photo-op, [u]Bush doesn't want to hear from them. As the person that sent their children to war, he should be required to give all of the families of dead soldiers 5-10 minutes of his time. [/u][/quote]

She had her 5-10 minutes with the President<_<
[/quote]
people seems to forget this fact all the time

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='whodey319' post='212571' date='Feb 2 2006, 07:41 AM'][quote name='Lawman' post='212567' date='Feb 2 2006, 08:29 AM']
[quote name='BengalsFREAK' post='212534' date='Feb 2 2006, 06:26 AM']
To say that it's not OK to protest at a government function is just wrong. Maybe ol' Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock and others shouldn't have banded together to write an illegal document that we now call the Declaration of Independance? Clearly it was against the law at the time. Let us not forget the Boston Tea Party, another illegal event done in protest to outrageous taxation. Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly were made LAW by those people that FOUGHT the system. If you want to speak out agaisnt the goverment, that's your RIGHT in this country. It does amaze me that the laws in this country seem to be different when it pertains to government officials. This country was built by people that fought the system, people that protested for what they believed was right. A lot of them gave their lives protesting for what we now take for granted. These are the things Dubya should have anticipated when he sent us to war. When soldiers die, families cry. Unless the family is willing to pose for a photo-op, [u]Bush doesn't want to hear from them. As the person that sent their children to war, he should be required to give all of the families of dead soldiers 5-10 minutes of his time. [/u][/quote]

She had her 5-10 minutes with the President<_<
[/quote]
people seems to forget this fact all the time
[/quote]



Yeah and not only did she already meet with him once.
Afterward she talked about how much he really showed
he cared and how soothing it was to her.

[quote]"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.[/quote]

[url="http://www.thereporter.com/republished/ci_2923921"]http://www.thereporter.com/republished/ci_2923921[/url]


The woman is obviously a publicity whore that has
taken the unfortunate death of her son and smeared
his name all over everything she can get her hands on.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='BengalsFREAK' post='212534' date='Feb 2 2006, 06:26 AM']To say that it's not OK to protest at a government function is just wrong. Maybe ol' Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock and others shouldn't have banded together to write an illegal document that we now call the Declaration of Independance? Clearly it was against the law at the time. Let us not forget the Boston Tea Party, another illegal event done in protest to outrageous taxation. Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly were made LAW by those people that FOUGHT the system. If you want to speak out agaisnt the goverment, that's your RIGHT in this country. It does amaze me that the laws in this country seem to be different when it pertains to government officials. This country was built by people that fought the system, people that protested for what they believed was right. A lot of them gave their lives protesting for what we now take for granted. These are the things Dubya should have anticipated when he sent us to war. When soldiers die, families cry. Unless the family is willing to pose for a photo-op, Bush doesn't want to hear from them. As the person that sent their children to war, he should be required to give all of the families of dead soldiers 5-10 minutes of his time.

You don't have to agree with the woman, you only have to respect her right to protest. Even if she's protesting against the guy you voted for.[/quote]


Where did I say I didnt respect her right to protest? Ive said I dont understand her grieving process and how it honors her sons beliefs.

[Guest bengalrick]

[i]The officer told her she had to leave, and then "[b]he dragged me out of my chair, pinned my arm around my back, and roughly pushed me up the stairs.[/b]''[/i]

[i]There [b]Sheehan said she was handcuffed[/b], and led to a holding cell just outside of the Capitol before being transported to two different facilities. She said she was not released until 12:30 a.m. Wednesday -- roughly four hours after her arrest. [/i]

[img]http://www.redstate.com/redstate/sheehansotu2nu9zy.jpg[/img]

should we look past the fact that she is a LYING ATTENTION WHORE, simply b/c her son died? like i said, i respect him and i respect her right to greive and even protest his death, in the appropriate place... but she is a fucking liar...

do you see her handcuffed? do you see her arms pinned behind her back? do you see her being pushed up the stairs?

[|BengalsFREAK|]

Time to take off the Repulican blinders....seems that Sheehan got arrested for wearing an anti-war shirt, while someone with a Support the Troops shirt only got asked to leave, not arrested.

I had not read before that Sheehan met with the president, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's her right to protest. To quote this article "Since when is free speech conditional on whether you agree with the president?"


Shirt tales differ for Sheehan, GOP wife
Capitol police admit mistake as protester mulls legal battle

Wednesday, February 1, 2006; Posted: 11:42 p.m. EST (04:42 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Call it the tale of two different shirts worn by two very different women: a well-known peace activist who has agitated the White House and a lawmaker's wife who has staunchly supported the U.S.-led war in Iraq.

Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan wore a shirt with the message "2,245 Dead. How many more?" -- a reference to the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq.

Beverly Young, the wife of 18-term Republican U.S. Rep. Bill Young of Florida, wore a shirt that read "Support the Troops."

Both shirts resulted in their owners being ejected from the House chamber before President Bush's State of the Union address on Tuesday night. (Full story)

Sheehan, an invited guest of Rep. Lynn Woolsey, a California Democrat, was arrested around 8:30 p.m. ET on charges of unlawful conduct. Young was asked to leave but not arrested.

On Wednesday afternoon, U.S. Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said neither woman should have been removed from the chamber. "We made a mistake," he told CNN.

He said an apology was made to Bill and Beverly Young, and the congressman has been told that Capitol officers will receive better training. He said they are operating under outdated guidance on House rules regarding demonstrations.

"Just wearing a T-shirt is not unlawful," Gainer said. Wearing a T-shirt and engaging in actions meant to draw attention to the shirt is against the law, he said, but neither woman was doing so.

Gainer said he has attempted to reach Sheehan to tell her he is recommending that charges be dropped and to express his willingness to talk to her at her convenience, but has only been able to leave her a message.

Woolsey has called for a withdrawal of troops in Iraq and supports legislation for the creation of a Department of Peace.

"Since when is free speech conditional on whether you agree with the president?" Woolsey said in a statement issued Wednesday.

Sheehan told CNN Wednesday that she planned to file a lawsuit despite Gainer's statements.

"I was there for four hours," she said. "It seems like someone could have figured out they made a mistake in four hours."

Sheehan said she was treated roughly and left bruised by the incident.

"I'm going to file a lawsuit for defamation of character and because my civil rights were violated, hoping that it will never happen to another person," she said.

Before Gainer's statements, Capitol Police spokeswoman Sgt. Kimberly Schneider said of Sheehan's shirt, "She was asked to cover it up. She did not."

'She has a real passion for our troops'
Outrage also came from the pro-war Young.

On Wednesday, he held up his wife's shirt on the House floor and denounced her treatment.

"She has a real passion for our troops, and she shows it in many, many ways," Young said.

"And most members in this House know that. But because she had on a shirt that someone didn't like, that said 'Support Our Troops,' she was kicked out of this gallery while the president was speaking and encouraging Americans to support our troops. Shame. Shame."

Young and his wife are known as passionate supporters of U.S. service members. He has spoken in the past about their many visits to military hospitals during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and their efforts to ensure the needs of the wounded and their families are met.

Sheehan, on the other hand, was thrust into the spotlight after her 24-year-old son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, was killed in Iraq in April 2004.

"Cindy Sheehan, who gave her own flesh and blood for this disastrous war, did not violate any rules of the House of Representatives," Woolsey's statement said. "She merely wore a shirt that highlighted the human cost of the Iraq war and expressed a view different than that of the president."

Sheehan, a Vacaville, California, resident gained national attention in August, when she and hundreds of fellow protesters camped outside the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch, demanding an audience. She also recently penned a book, "Not One More Mother's Child."

Sheehan said Wednesday she was trying to "make a statement" with the shirt but did not intend to get arrested.

"I didn't think I would be provoking an incident," she said, suggesting that her message contributed to her arrest.

"I got arrested and [Young] didn't," she said. "What does that tell you?"

CNN's Ted Barrett, Eliott C. McLaughlin and Gary Nurenberg contributed to this report.

[Guest ONYX]

Apparently the gestapo....urggh I mean the police has issued an apology


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[|BengalsFREAK|]

Since Old put in the first part of that article, I'll include the other part.

[b]On July 4, 2005 she was again interviewed by a local paper in Fort Lewis, Washington, regarding her meeting with President Bush, this time describing it as "one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it." She described President Bush as being "detached from humanity" and said that "his mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all." She continued, "He didn’t even know our names," asking "Who we'all honorin' here today?" when he first entered the room, and then referring to her as "Ma" or "Mom". [6][/b]

Clearly the spin machine is working hard on both sides. I'm not picking sides here, or even arguing that this womans views are right or wrong. I'm not even arguing that she is a good person. All I am saying is that it's her right to protest. If Georgie doesn't wanna deal with it, that's too bad. When ya sign up to be president, this is part of the job.

[Jamie_B]

Right, and in prostesting you know you take the chance of getting arrested, we see it all the time.

All Im saying is I dont understand her. I dont understand what changed in that she was supportative of the president to being completly against him, thats a big 180 to take. What happened to make her take it? Did she get a letter from her son that she didnt have before? If so bring that foward, I think it would be 10 times more powerful for making her point than the way she is going about it now. And I dont understand how you honor your son by protesting what he believed in. It doesnt make sence to me.

[Guest oldschooler]

[quote name='BengalsFREAK' post='212607' date='Feb 2 2006, 10:10 AM']Since Old put in the first part of that article, I'll include the other part.

[b]On July 4, 2005 she was again interviewed by a local paper in Fort Lewis, Washington, regarding her meeting with President Bush, this time describing it as "one of the most disgusting experiences I ever had and it took me almost a year to even talk about it." She described President Bush as being "detached from humanity" and said that "his mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything else about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all." She continued, "He didn’t even know our names," asking "Who we'all honorin' here today?" when he first entered the room, and then referring to her as "Ma" or "Mom". [6][/b]

Clearly the spin machine is working hard on both sides. I'm not picking sides here, or even arguing that this womans views are right or wrong. I'm not even arguing that she is a good person. All I am saying is that it's her right to protest. If Georgie doesn't wanna deal with it, that's too bad. When ya sign up to be president, this is part of the job.[/quote]


The article I posted the quotes from was posted in June of 2004.
They were her own words after the meeting. Since then she has
became a professional protester, an obvious liar and a publicity whore.

And you`re right it`s her right to protest...but people that protest
abortions aren`t allowed to do so INSIDE an abortion clinic (for example)

I`m pretty sure you`re not allowed to protest INSIDE any Government
build.

Maybe if she would have acted like a normal person for less than
an hour she wouldn`t have been arrested. But she`s to busy
being a publicity whore and she knows her 15 minutes is about up...

[Lawman]

From my girl

Malignant Narcissist Alert
Every now and then it's a good thing to point out the behavior of the Malignant Narcissist in our midst. The MalNar is a creature for all seasons, as it peeks out of its hole, and surveys its surroundings. One actually emerged just prior to the State of the Union address tonight. How, how, how, it muses, can it make an event about itself? "How," it mutters to itself, "can I prove to everyone around me that it's all about me, me, me meeeeeeeee!???!!!!!!!!!!"

As the creature, which is seen in both the daylight and nighttime hours, ponders its options, it remains completely ignorant of its MalNar-ness, as it plods along cluelessly truly believing that everything revolves around it, is about it, or will be made to be about it, and only it.

The rarer of the species, the "Cindy Sheehan," is also one of the more clueless of the species. Tonight we saw the creature try to make the SOTU all about her, and well, her timing was just a little off.

Already relegated to the Peanut Gallery inside the Capitol chamber, (with friends like Lynne Woolsey who needs a bad ticket agent?), the creature was removed from the gallery for wearing a protest/statement t-shirt. It's a shame when every "activist" worth his or her salt knows that heckling the conservative speaker is a much more effective way to try make everything about you.

But, as we at Tammy Geographic have noted, the "Cindy" of the MalNar species is rare because well, it's also a little slower than the rest. We last saw the creature as it was being led from the Peanut Gallery even before the Actually Important Around Whom Things Actually Do Revolve person arrived. That's usually what happens to the poor MalNar, losers who lose reinforcing their, er, losing nature.

That's all for now, from the MalNar Safari Tent here at Tammy Geographic, I'm Sadie Bruce. Good night, and good luck. Now scratch my back.

[|BengalsFREAK|]

She did nothing but wear a shirt. Perfectly legal. Even the authorities said so after it was all said and done. She didn't make a scene, didn't speak out or make any noise or jump around or anything. Just wore a shirt. I would like to point out for the 23498234238 time I am not arguing for the ladies beliefs...just her rights.