Guest Coy Bacon Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 This is ridiculous. Libby's gone Liberal. It's all a crazy conspiracy theory concocted by the Bush-hating Liberal media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas... But I will argue to the core that the military actions against terrorists are real and necessary and that between Bush and Kerry, Bush is the better killer for the necessary job..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [center][color="#FF0000"][size=4][i][center]“If There Is A Leak Out Of My Administration, I Want To Know Who It Is. And If The Person Has Violated Law, The Person Will Be Taken Care Of†[/i] [/size] [size=2][b]--- President Bush 9/30/03[/b][/size][/color] [color="#000099"][size=4][i]"Bush OKed Leaking Classified Info"[/i][b][/size] [size=2]--- Scooter Libby 4/5/06[/center][/b][/size][/color] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/23.gif[/img] [/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='245003' date='Apr 6 2006, 11:23 PM']How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas... But I will argue to the core that the military actions against terrorists are real and necessary and that between Bush and Kerry, Bush is the better killer for the necessary job.....[/quote] the last democrats in power left after creating a giant surplus, a booming economy, and didnt feel the need to invade other countries on behalf of his daddy oh, but thats all nullified because one of them got a blowjob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer_Rice Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='245003' date='Apr 6 2006, 11:23 PM']How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas...[/quote] My goodness, Bung. Won't you hold [b]anybody[/b] accountable for any [b]specific[/b] actions? [quote]But I will argue to the core that the military actions against terrorists are real and necessary and that between Bush and Kerry, Bush is the better killer for the necessary job.....[/quote] This is just plain wrong, as the mounting evidence is demonstrating. Get it through your head. Iraq was not a necessary military action. (In fact, it wasn't the first time either, and the fact that you were sent there doesn't mean jackshit, except that you were following orders.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBZ Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Bunghole' post='245003' date='Apr 6 2006, 11:23 PM']How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas...[/quote] This is the 3rd or 4th time I've read a statement like this from you, and you really have to be careful about what you're implying...Because it really means that your democratic system is nothing but a huge sham and makes you irrelevant as a voting citizen. [i](Yes...I did read the second half of your post where you DID make a choice and why)[/i] This is why it is imperative that citizens mobilize on every level to hold their governments accountable...Because if you don't, the only one that is truly made a mockery of, is you. The sad thing is that the stupour is so engrained now, I bet they will get away with this too...And the only argument would be 'But the democrats are just as bad...'? That's not an answer or an opinion...It's an admission that democracy either cannot or does not work in this current political and economic climate. And until voters actually stand up for themselves, it won't...Your government is a joke, and ultimately, YOU are to blame. So what are you going to do about it? BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nati Ice Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='TheBZ' post='245080' date='Apr 7 2006, 02:09 AM'][quote name='Bunghole' post='245003' date='Apr 6 2006, 11:23 PM'] How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas...[/quote] This is the 3rd or 4th time I've read a statement like this from you, and you really have to be careful about what you're implying...Because it really means that your democratic system is nothing but a huge sham and makes you irrelevant as a voting citizen. [i](Yes...I did read the second half of your post where you DID make a choice and why)[/i][/quote] technically yes, but its more a reflection of the idea that a 2 party system is either ideal or natural. as you can tell, douches and turd sandwiches... both choices suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBZ Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 You hear the occasional complaint here in Canada that there are too many parties, and the whole thing gets watered down...Except that argument usually comes from those who have a long-standing tradition of voting for the same two older parties. Personally...I'd rather have minority governments that have to cobble together majority decisions, rather than having my choice be unavailable. As far as the US goes, Taking lobbying down a notch would be a good place to start...You wouldn't have to scrap it all to make that step...And maybe you could be more sure that the decisions were being made for the right reason. (Although you're never completely going to defeat that possibility) BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gonzoid Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nothing will come of this. The media will remain complacent and focus on the next American Idol or missing white girl, Prez will say he's within his rights, anti-America talk radio & the corporate-friendly TV news will parrot the administration-approved talking points, the base will grumble about "the liberals" and the poll numbers will drop a bit. But nothing, nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing will bring down this administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Nati Ice' post='245057' date='Apr 7 2006, 12:47 AM'][quote name='Bunghole' post='245003' date='Apr 6 2006, 11:23 PM'] How can anyone really hate Bush and the Republicans yet not hate the Democrats equally? It is the same political evils, just under different window dressing umbrellas... But I will argue to the core that the military actions against terrorists are real and necessary and that between Bush and Kerry, Bush is the better killer for the necessary job.....[/quote] the last democrats in power left after creating a giant surplus, a booming economy, [color="#FF0000"]and didnt feel the need to invade other countries[/color] on behalf of his daddy oh, but thats all nullified because one of them got a blowjob [/quote] Hard to say but he was the one who signed the Iraqi Liberation Act. Now what his intentions were and wether that meant he was going to invade eventually could be debated untill the end of time, but he was in support of regeme change. Just the how's are in question, but not the desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ONYX Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Gonzoid' post='245160' date='Apr 7 2006, 09:03 AM']Nothing will come of this. The media will remain complacent and focus on the next American Idol or missing white girl, Prez will say he's within his rights, anti-America talk radio & the corporate-friendly TV news will parrot the administration-approved talking points, the base will grumble about "the liberals" and the poll numbers will drop a bit. But nothing, nothing, nothing, absolutely nothing will bring down this administration.[/quote] Unfortunately, you are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackJesus Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [color="#993399"][b]White House Doesn’t Deny Charge…[/b][/color] [size=3][u][quote]White House Tries to Quell Anger Over Leak Claim By DAVID STOUT April 7, 2006 NY Times[/u][/size] WASHINGTON, April 7  The White House tried today to quell the furor [b]over the leaking of sensitive prewar intelligence on Iraq[/b], as President Bush's spokesman [b]insisted that the president had the authority to declassify and release information "in the public interest" and had never done so for political reasons.[/b] [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons//24.gif[/img] Scott McClellan, President Bush's spokesman, insisted that any release of information was "in the public interest." The spokesman, Scott McClellan, said a decision was made to declassify and release some information to rebut "irresponsible and unfounded accusations" that the administration had manipulated or misused prewar intelligence to buttress its case for war. "That was flat-out false," Mr. McClellan said. Mr. McClellan was barraged at a news briefing by questions over assertions by I. Lewis Libby Jr., the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, that President Bush authorized him, through Mr. Cheney, in July 2003 to disclose key parts of what was until then a classified prewar evaluation, or National Intelligence Estimate, on Iraq. At the time, the Pentagon had hardly finished basking in the easy military victory when it was caught up in questions over the failure to find deadly unconventional weapons in Iraq  the main rationale for going to war. One of the findings in the prewar intelligence data was that Saddam Hussein was probably seeking fuel for nuclear reactors. Mr. McClellan said the Democrats who pounced on Mr. Libby's assertions that Mr. Bush had given him, through the vice president, the authority to talk to a reporter about some material in the intelligence estimate were "engaging in crass politics" in refusing to recognize the distinction between legitimate disclosure of sensitive information in the public interest and the irresponsible leaking of intelligence for political reasons. Mr. Libby told a grand jury he discussed the intelligence estimate with Judith Miller, then with The New York Times, on July 8, 2003. Ten days later, the intelligence estimate was formally declassified, a move that Mr. McClellan said again and again was in the public interest and not politically motivated. Mr. McClellan deflected questions on what role, if any, Mr. Bush had in setting the parameters of Mr. Libby's discussion with Ms. Miller. Meanwhile, Democrats continued to assail the administration. "This is a serious allegation with national security consequences," Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the minority leader, said today on the Senate floor. "It directly contradicts previous statements made by President Bush, it continues a pattern of misleading by this Bush White House, and it raises somber and troubling questions about the Bush administration's candor with the Congress and the public." Mr. Reid said it was time for the president to say whether, in fact, he authorized the disclosure of the prewar intelligence, as Mr. Libby said he had. [b]"He must tell the American people whether the Bush Oval Office is the place where the buck stops, or the leaks start,"[/b] Mr. Reid said. Mr. McClellan was in the somewhat odd position of not disputing that President Bush was involved in the disclosure of hitherto classified information, [b]while describing any such disclosure as being in the public good.[/b] Mr. McClellan, who noted that a president has the authority to declassify intelligence, said today that he was "not getting into confirming or denying things, because I'm not commenting at all on matters relating to an ongoing legal proceeding." He was alluding to the trial of Mr. Libby, the vice president's former chief of staff, on charges that Mr. Libby committed perjury and engaged in obstruction of justice in connection with an inquiry over who unmasked Valerie Wilson, an undercover officer for the Central Intelligence Agency, in the summer of 2003. The unmasking occurred shortly after Ms. Wilson's husband, the former diplomat Joseph Wilson, wrote in The New York Times that he doubted reports that Iraq was trying to obtain uranium from Niger. Some Democrats accused the White House at the time of destroying Ms. Wilson's cover to retaliate against her husband, but the White House repeatedly denied the accusations. Mr. McClellan was asked today whether the president's own words at the time ("If there's a leak out of this administration, I want to know who it is") and Mr. Libby's recent assertion, contained in a court filing, demonstrated inconsistency, at best. Not at all, Mr. McClellan said. [b]"Declassifying information and providing it to the public when it is in the public interest is one thing,"[/b] he said. [b]"But leaking classified information that could compromise our national security is something that is very serious. And there is a distinction"[/b]  a distinction Democrats refuse to see, he said repeatedly.[/quote] [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/washington/07cnd-leak.html?hp&ex=1144468800&en=a43af062d1a708ac&ei=5094&partner=homepage"]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/07/washingt...artner=homepage[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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