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PURCELL, Okla. — A slain 10-year-old girl's body, found in her downstairs neighbor's apartment, had deep saw marks on the neck, said authorities who alleged Saturday that her killer had planned to dismember her and eat the flesh.

The family of Jamie Rose Bolin was in shock, not only with the news of her slaying but with the fact that she apparently died so close to home.

Kevin Ray Underwood, 26, was arrested Friday after investigators found Jamie's body in the closet of a bedroom in his apartment, authorities said. The girl's unclothed body was inside a large plastic tub, along with a towel used to soak up blood, officials said.

Purcell police Chief David Tompkins said investigators think the killer hit her several times with a wooden cutting board, then placed his hand and duct tape over her mouth to suffocate her. She was sexually assaulted after she died, officials said.

Tompkins and McClain County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall released the gruesome details about the final moments of Jamie's life and what they alleged were Underwood's plans for her body, but they would not say whether Underwood had confessed to the slaying.

Kuykendall said that Underwood said he began fantasizing about eating someone a year ago. The prosecutor added that authorities believe "that while she was ultimately chosen to be the victim of this horrific crime, that other people had been targeted and considered," including a a woman and a 5-year-old boy.

A preliminary autopsy report said the girl died from blunt force trauma to the head and asphyxiation.

"Regarding a potential motive, this appears to have been part of a plan to kidnap a person, rape them, torture them, kill them, cut off their head, drain the body of blood, rape the corpse, eat the corpse, then dispose of the organs and bones," the police chief said.

Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation agents seized a decorative dagger, a hack saw, duct tape, meat tenderizer, barbecue skewers, a duffel bag, the cutting board, a computer, and a videotape about a serial killer, Tompkins said.

Police think Jamie died Wednesday, the day she was last seen at the library in Purcell, about 20 miles south of Oklahoma City. The freckled-face, red-haired girl, who liked to play with Barbie dolls, was reported missing that night.

"Jamie was in the apartment below us the whole time," said Rose Fox, Jamie's grandmother. "The only reason that he couldn't move the body and hide it was because somebody was out there the whole time, either on the balcony smoking or standing in front of the apartment.

Authorities said they became suspicious of Underwood when he pulled up to a check point set up near the apartment complex two days after the girl was reported missing.

"He was an occupant of a vehicle. He just wasn't acting right," said Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper Kera Philippi. "From there, they talked to him and the FBI took him into questioning."

Underwood was being held Saturday in the McClain County Jail on a complaint of first-degree murder, a jail official said.

The district attorney called Jamie's killing one of the most "heinous and atrocious" crimes he'd seen in his career as a prosecutor. He said he planned to file first-degree murder charges against Underwood on Monday and would seek the death penalty.

"This does not appear to be a spur-of-the-moment crime of opportunity but a well-thought-out, premeditated act with months of planning and preparation," Kuykendall said.

Tompkins said Underwood had no apparent criminal record. He also said it wasn't known whether Underwood had a history of mental illness, but he expects mental competency to be an issue at trial.

It was not immediately known whether Underwood had a lawyer. An arraigment has been set for Monday afternoon, officials said.

The manager of the apartment complex, Tim Bayer, told The Oklahoman that Underwood liked to stand outside his apartment and watch children play. He said Underwood didn't have a car of his own and that he kept his apartment clean.

Jamie lived upstairs in an apartment with her father, Curtis Bolin, an auto mechanic, her grandmother said. Jamie's mother, Jenny, is a truck driver in Oklahoma City. The couple separated several years ago, Fox said.

Fox said the family is distraught, especially the child's father, who remained under sedation.

"His whole life revolved around Jamie," Fox said. "He didn't go out and party. He didn't drink or smoke. This has probably destroyed him."



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We live on a planet filled with horrible people.
What's the point of spending several million dollars to barbarically kill this man? Give him life in prison for three reasons:
1.) He is obviously mentally diseased.
2.) He will last all of a few months in prison anyway.
3.) What good does killing him do?
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Honestly I'd rather die than spend my entire life in prison anyway. Plus even prisoners don't like people who commit such crimes against women and children, so as #22 said, he probably won't last anyway.
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[quote name='#22' post='250761' date='Apr 17 2006, 10:01 AM']yet you are against abortion.

how does that work?[/quote]

i have sympathy for poor, defenseless infants, while i have no sypathy for fuckers that murder, molest, or rape people...

its not that hard really ;)

like i said, i fight myself to be more "christian" on the death penalty question...

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[quote name='#22' post='250761' date='Apr 17 2006, 10:01 AM']yet you are against abortion.

how does that work?[/quote]
Yeah, like, what did the baby do?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...it should be all up to the victim's family. The only reason someone should be executed is for the family's peace of mind, but that is def a sufficient reason, as anyone who commits an act like this deserves to have their life forfeited to the will of those they hurt.
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I am for the most part "liberal" if you haven't figured out by now as far as [b]most[/b]
of my political views.

But in these extreme case where a person commits such a barbaric savage crime against
a child, I become radical as hell.

Here is what I propose.

It seems evident that now a days, many criminals are not afraid of the prison system.
For career felons and criminals who have been through the legal system since youth, jail
becomes a second home.

This is why, its time to get midievil with these punks. :angry:

If the killer gets caught red handed, as in this case, here is what should happen.

His life should be put in the hands of his victim's family.

If they decide he should die, his execution should be put on pay per view, and the
victim's family should receive at the very least, half of the proceeds.

Before the execution, the viewers should be shown all the evidence the jury was exposed
to. That would include photos of the victim after the crime was perpetrated.

Also, at the bottom of the screen during the execution, there can be a toll-free number,
where people can pledge and donate money to the victim's family.



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[quote name='sneaky' post='250813' date='Apr 17 2006, 11:37 AM']I am for the most part "liberal" if you haven't figured out by now as far as [b]most[/b]
of my political views.

But in these extreme case where a person commits such a barbaric savage crime against
a child, I become radical as hell.

Here is what I propose.

It seems evident that now a days, many criminals are not afraid of the prison system.
For career felons and criminals who have been through the legal system since youth, jail
becomes a second home.

This is why, its time to get midievil with these punks. :angry:

If the killer gets caught red handed, as in this case, here is what should happen.

His life should be put in the hands of his victim's family.

If they decide he should die, his execution should be put on pay per view, and the
victim's family should receive at the very least, half of the proceeds.

Before the execution, the viewers should be shown all the evidence the jury was exposed
to. That would include photos of the victim after the crime was perpetrated.

Also, at the bottom of the screen during the execution, there can be a toll-free number,
where people can pledge and donate money to the victim's family.
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and vote on execution style

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[quote name='#22' post='250833' date='Apr 17 2006, 12:33 PM']that's just as barbaric as the original crime.

think of [b]his[/b] family, too. I'm sure they didn't want to raise a nutcase.[/quote]

Well, no one would force the killer's family to watch.

:ninja:

I know, I see what you are saying.

What do you think that society could use as a possible deterrent?

I think prison is not "scary" enough to most criminals and potential criminals, what about you?

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i dont know what to believe about the death penalty because it is not our job to determine who lives and dies, this is Gods job, BUT then u got the eye for an eye thing and is it Gods job to do the eye for an eye or ours?


This guy is obviously guilty, i dont like the death penalty for people that we dont have 100% evidence against because when DNA testing started, like 30% of people on death row or something were found not guilty.
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[quote name='#22' post='250833' date='Apr 17 2006, 12:33 PM']that's just as barbaric as the original crime.

think of [b]his[/b] family, too. I'm sure they didn't want to raise a nutcase.[/quote]

dont give a shit about his family. their the last thing on my mind, i would for sure no doubt fry the bastard. whats that movie with samuel l. jackson when he shoots the bastards in court that raped his daugter with an a.k 47. now thats revenge baby. i would do something like that and don't care about me spending the rest of my life in prison. our system here sucks dick, you sell drugs and spend the rest of your life in prison but rape and kill someone and your out in 15 yrs. thats straight up bull shit, the system is fucking corrupted.

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One reason why the prison and justice system in this country are a joke, is because
its primarily a business for the state governments.

The more inmates they can hold, justifies the taxes the residents must pay. In my opinion,
that's primarily why a prisoner can wait on death row for up to two decades.

The system wants to make as much money off the prisoner as possible. The state doesn't
make any money executing the prisoners.

If it did, there would be hundreds of executions every week.
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[quote name='sneaky' post='250886' date='Apr 17 2006, 01:35 PM']One reason why the prison and justice system in this country are a joke, is because
its primarily a business for the state governments.

The more inmates they can hold, justifies the taxes the residents must pay. In my opinion,
that's primarily why a prisoner can wait on death row for up to two decades.

The system wants to make as much money off the prisoner as possible. The state doesn't
make any money executing the prisoners.

If it did, there would be hundreds of executions every week.[/quote]
or because they constantly appeal their case for years because they are going to die and want to extend their life.
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obviously, the death penalty has not been a deterrant. in the 30 years since its been legal, have serious crimes gone down?

Murderers aren't afraid of death.
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[quote name='whodey319' post='250889' date='Apr 17 2006, 01:40 PM']or because they constantly appeal their case for years because they are going to die and want to extend their life.[/quote]

If the system made a substantial profit from executing prisoners, inmates would be put to
death within a year or two of their conviction, regardless of how many times the inmate tried to appeal.
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I used to think the death penalty was bad for society. Now I think it's cool. Not only is the prevalence of obviously mentally disturbed cannibal child-killers so rampant in society today that they threathen our national security, but as a matter of a well-defined concept of social justice, it's clear that taking the lives of defective transgressors is good for social morale. It makes the impotent among us feel powerful and cleans up the gene pool, too.

It's a double win!
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